Micro 158: borkgame (Game Over)

[Selkies]

I see no harm in wagoning his ass selkies. All this analysis is boring me out.

We either have a town core or we don't. I'd rather have one because I think a good core rocks for town and a bad one Darwins out quickly anyway.

[Svenskt Stål]

What are you talking about, you are completely loosing me.

[Svenskt Stål]

I am checking out for awhile.

Dont miss me too much.

[Selkies]

Put a vote on Varsoon if you want. I want to see if our thoughts resonate with other players that we think are town. That can happen via or with the addition of votes, but the whole hurry-up L-1 thing bugs me. And the fact that the DO wagon getting to L-1 so quickly also bugged Orcinus tells me that it's not just my inexperience with majority lynch games this time.

[DrippingGoofball]

TOWN

DGB
Sven for #58 and #99
DBK for #104, #157 and #209
Selkies: First I thought scum, but then I'm getting used to the playstyle. And I like his #141, and the following posts total town, I totally agree with him. I also like #275
RachM: wishy washy as usual. #690 is town.

SCUM

Icebox: overly pleasant but #83 is townie but so many posts are either fluff or scummy fluff. I like #322. #396 is bad. #6372 information lynch, really?
Jennifer: #187 is a bunch of catchup questions, but no reads. #563 is more catchup. And #584. Then #645, urgh.
Varsoon: post #50, #167, #200 is horrible, spoiler tags, defensive tone, nonsense and Selkies vote. #299 is all kinds of bad. #529 isn't bad.
Majiffy: #250, and general trolling.

[DrippingGoofball]

After iso'ing the scum players, my scum reads are in this order:

#1 Jennifer
#2 Icebox
#3 & 4 Varsoon/Majiffy, I can't decide.

She keeps using RL excuses, various postponements, lists of questions without follow up, then IIoA about town blocks... she's scum.

VOTE: Jennifer

[Svenskt Stål]

Put a vote on Varsoon if you want. I want to see if our thoughts resonate with other players that we think are town. That can happen via or with the addition of votes, but the whole hurry-up L-1 thing bugs me. And the fact that the DO wagon getting to L-1 so quickly also bugged Orcinus tells me that it's not just my inexperience with majority lynch games this time.

You are saying that you want to know everyones alignments before you vote, thats dreaming.

Voting gets shit done, its also fun to see stuff burn.

[Svenskt Stål]

VOTE VARSOON

[Selkies]

Put a vote on Varsoon if you want. I want to see if our thoughts resonate with other players that we think are town. That can happen via or with the addition of votes, but the whole hurry-up L-1 thing bugs me. And the fact that the DO wagon getting to L-1 so quickly also bugged Orcinus tells me that it's not just my inexperience with majority lynch games this time.

You are saying that you want to know everyones alignments before you vote, thats dreaming.

Voting gets shit done, its also fun to see stuff burn.

Nope that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I want to kick this around a bit with other players I think are town before we run up another wagon to L-1.

[Svenskt Stål]

Fine, lets do it your way.

unvote

[Selkies]

So you agree with everything I wrote. What did I leave out? What do you think of DGB's posts?

[Svenskt Stål]

I agree with nothing of what you wrote, but I cant really do everything by my own drum.

I have no idea what the first question is reffering to.

I will await more from her until I try to make a read. But so far I dont want to scratch my eyes.

[Selkies]

Ok, so this won't be a wall, but it's a summary of what Orcinus and I have been discussing for the last hour or so.

- Iceblock's post 672 (the wall) bothered us a lot. Some of the spoilered observations and questions didn't appear to mesh all that well with the reads. The two that were most troubling were Rach and Bo. GiF's recent posts have settled most of those concerns.

- We think there was at least scum on the DO wagon. When the Rach wagon started to collapse it seemed like the DO wagon sprang up with a lot of momentum. Orcinus and I were considering a DO pressure-wagon a little earlier. The DO wagon seemed to have too much steam for a pressure wagon. It bothered Orcinus tht Majiffy had so little comment on that wagon, given that 3 of his town reads (I think) were on it. However, he made a comment about Varsoon losing some town shine around that time.

Rach has moved in a townward direction.
Majiffy has moved in a townward direction.
The DO bandwagon speed makes us wonder if he/DGB are town.

Varsoon has moved down
Bo has moved down
Jennifer hasn't exactly moved, but we were hoping to get something more than null from her by now.
There is probably more buried in our chatlog that I can dig out with more coffee.

I meant this post. You said you agreed with it all.

[Majiffy]

confirm

VOTE: DGB

[Icebox]

@Majiffy: You're more experienced than I, and generally I pay attention to this and appreciate coaching to try to improve:

In general: I am thinking something about those reads Goofball has written. I want to know what you think about it. In general, I think: "Slipped out the gate" But what slip do you think it is?

[Icebox]

...Lol, okay.

[Svenskt Stål]

@ selkies, Oh, yes. I agree with everything.

[Selkies]

Majiffy, Icebox...connect the dots?

[Svenskt Stål]

selkies so help me god, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

[Selkies]

I'm asking them about DGB.

[Svenskt Stål]

oh. okay. i should sleep.

[Icebox]

The reads are a good positioning of those that could be lynched.

Jennifer read: is based off of almost nothing.
Icebox: While Gif is a good person who knows how play without getting suspected, I don't know how to do that.
Varsoon is a newbie lynch. And I'm pretty sure he is town this game.
Majiffy has been a line up lynch for a while, slowly moving away from it, Dripping moving into reversing this momentum climb.

It is a perfectly valid, extremely awesome scum list of reads that fall line by line into a town loss. They're opportunistic, and there are two town possibly 3 in that scum list. She excuses RachMarie's play, but comes down hard on Jennifer because of meta. But meta only excuses so much.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy, Icebox...connect the dots?

She made no effort to read me. She arbitrarily said "post #250 and trolling", listed me under scum, and didn't elaborate on anything, despite my very obvious attempts to get her to do so.

In general: I am thinking something about those reads Goofball has written. I want to know what you think about it. In general, I think: "Slipped out the gate" But what slip do you think it is?

I don't really see any slips. Just anti-town.

[DrippingGoofball]

but comes down hard on Jennifer because of meta.

Sorry, zero meta, I don't believe in meta.

It's not meta. Jennifer is behaving in a manner that I've seen scum do frequently, and when I see those signs and I get my player lynched, I get a scum lynch almost every time.

I'm very convinced that Jennifer is scum.

[Icebox]

I'm very convinced that you're scum.

You used meta on Rachmarie.