Open 488: Pick Your Poison [GAME OVER]

[Psyche]

Though his point about Bacde being overconfident is probably decent. I know I'm overconfident as scum. Though I shouldn't bring that up. Other players, though, are just generally overconfident. Mastin, for example, has always been overconfident.

AP's most recent vote's not too great, either.

I was afraid Mastin would make this game unpalatable with huge posts, but he's doing fine so far.

[Psyche]

Also, fuzzy is town. Not letting mastin/Bacde hedge that one in. He is a super logical player and his stream of thoughts posting reads REALLY genuine. Hes very similar to Rob13. I'd expect scum fuzzy to be way more cautious and analytical about everything.

This is bull.

[AngryPidgeon]

Psyche, I'm pretty sure you are innocent. Your vote is shit. FYI.

[Psyche]

Good job, man. Keep up the good reads.

[AngryPidgeon]

You too man.

[Psyche]

Shisou was on my scummy list for his affected objective third-party stance in a few posts. I'd totally tap that.

[Scott Brosius]

Many pages to sift through, I shall tonight.

[Psyche]

But why is FuzDn specifically scummy? AP or fuzzy could answer this and make me feel good.

[Keybladewielder]

This escalates quick as fuck.

[mastin2]

Screw reading any other player.

VOTE: FuDuzn.

This is scum. Shisou was bad, and FuDuzn is worse. The entrance post was horribad and had a bandwagony vote on a player who is significantly more likely to be town.

[FuDuzn]

Also, fuzzy is town. Not letting mastin/Bacde hedge that one in. He is a super logical player and his stream of thoughts posting reads REALLY genuine. Hes very similar to Rob13. I'd expect scum fuzzy to be way more cautious and analytical about everything.

This is bull.

Indeed this is bull, but not complete bull. I am in an 'ongoing' game and can say that this is a diffedrent Fuzzy then scum fuzzy. But I wouldn't call him super logical, he just seems to throw around votes. Not neccesarily(sp?) A bad strategy as it does poke and prod a bit, but it tends to just get people to think he is scummy.

And AP, haven't you been calling me town all game? I would say if anybody is opportunistic it is him.

Also, to whoeven called GNR town........how??

Pre Edit: oh maybe it was Mastin

[uctriton00]

hello it's as if nobody read my wall

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, KBW is fucking mafia. All this crap going on and all we get is an IIoA about how there is a lot of crap going on.

Probably one of Bacde/mastin since mastin won't follow up his #1 scumread with a vote. And he isn't even remotely concerned about me NKing him if he gives me a pass?

FuDuzn/Slimer are suspicious people.

@PSyche: This is reason enough to vote Fuduzn. He's not really doing anything but commenting on random points and not following through. And the 'Maybe Im making too much out of it' reads fake and very self-aware.

P-edit: Oh hai.

>Implying you are town because I am being opportunistic.
>Why does mastin calling GNR town matter over someone else doing it?
>Fuzzy clearly doesn't care how his posts come off.

P-pedit: I did. I might be down to vote Bacde. OMGUS and all that.

[uctriton00]

And what is this quickwagon ******** on FuDuzn, citing "Shisou was bad"?

6 posts, all of them relating around the questioning of kcudzu, and that's "bad"? There was nothing bad about that, it's null and now the quickwagoners are trying to make it into something of merit to give precedence to policy lynch fuduzn who is also nullier than null. 445 is the worst post of his, and even so I don't see that as bad as what I found in Bacde's iso.

[Bacde]

Also Bacde might not be town. I take back all of that. If one of Bacde/mastin flips scum, the other needs to go.

Bacde is never this confident as town

. Mastin/Bacde feel awkward as hell and I know mastin is more capable than what he is giving me here.

lol I beg to differ

maybe you are forgetting how awesomely sure I was that CooLDoG was mafia in 1393

that probably would have been a better place for you to start arguing from... "Bacde is often very over-confident in his poorly-reasoned votes" would have been a

MUCH

more legitimate argument

man, for someone who hates meta arguments you sure make a lot of arguments about players' playstyles

pedit- I left this post up while I had to go do something, I'ma respond to the posts made since then now

[AngryPidgeon]

man, for someone who hates meta arguments you sure make a lot of arguments about players' playstyles

And what does that tell you about me in this game then?

[mastin2]

mastin since mastin won't follow up his #1 scumread with a vote. And he isn't even remotely concerned about me NKing him if he gives me a pass?

I don't bus anymore, so if I were scum then FuDu wouldn't be. Which of us do you think is more likely to be scum, AP?

As for not being concerned about being NK'd, I already see myself dieing regardless of whether my reads are right or wrong. I'm a good 90% sure that the scum are going to kill me tonight, hence my request not to treat my (probably flawed) reads as a bible.

[Bacde]

Unvote

That question there was legitimate scumhunting imo, I just realized that I posted IIoA

But the jump to my inference was clear--you are playing differently and I'm not convinced that you are using evidence to form your reads as opposed to finding evidence to fit your reads (town v scum mindset)

But Mastin is right, there are other ways to figure out if you are mafia, and if you are town you will be a huge asset

I basically don't want to lynch you unless I'm 100%, and right now I'm only like 95%

pedit
@Mastin, why are you so sure you will be targetted tonight?

[FuDuzn]

Ap:

1. I am not saying I am town because you are opportunistic(which apparently you are admitting), I am asking you why after calling me town for a good portion of the Day why I am suddenly scum
2. I only mentioned it was Mastin because I wasn't sure who mentioned it until my pre edit I saw that it was probably him
3. And I am agreeing you on that point, I also think fuzzy is town.

But again, please someone give me some insight why GNR is town??

[Psyche]

Because of his big ego. >.>

[Psyche]

That was at Bacde.

[AngryPidgeon]

Its my new shindig and I know for a fact you aren't blind to that.

But I try to understand why people are posting what they are posting. I don't always agree with it, but town players will follow SOME train of thought / motives for their post. Scum players will leave me wondering why they posted something when I don't see why they would.

playstyle is part of understanding that.

Mastin: So you fully believe you are dead tonight, but you are willing to give a dangerous player WHO IS YOUR #1 SCUMREAD a pass to tomorrow and admit that any NK spec towards your hypothetical death is all WIFOM.

This game is weak for me and Im frustrated because my play is weak for reasons that it was in a game that just ended in which I ultimately just gave up. I need to interact in real time with more players. I thought in that game that my reads would be good enough on flip to carry the game but I was wrong to think that for a couple reasons.

@Fuduzn: You implied you are town in a roundabout way which is something that always flags my attention. I admit to nothing.
Your bit about GNR/mastin felt dismissive like you were dropping it after you realized it was just mastin.
Ok, I actually have to do some work right now. I'll get back to you on Fuzzy.

[mastin2]

@Mastin, why are you so sure you will be targetted tonight?

Sixth sense. A deep deep deep gut feeling that regardless of whether I have 100% accuracy or 0% accuracy in my reads that I will end up dead. I don't get that feeling often, but when I do it's generally right more often than wrong. I guess there could be logic to it, in that I would be killed because I've not caught up yet, that I've not solidified my reads yet, and that the scum could fear that happening. I guess it could be thanks to me thinking my reputation precedes me and that people think I'm better than I am. I guess it could be thanks to my ego as Psyche just said. I guess it could be thanks to the scum wanting to mislead the town. It could be (almost) all of those, it could be none of those. But I just have a gut feeling down in my heart that I'm not going to live 'til day two.

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Er, that first bit was to Bacde.

And I meant I'll get back on GNR, not Fuzzy.

[FuDuzn]

Is Mastin always like this?