MINI 1423 Dark Souls: Prepare to die....YOU DIED

Empking · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:39 pm

↑ VP Baltar wrote:who's scum, emp?

Four, mostly out of PoE though so I don't like it. You've been obv-town all game and I believe Levi's and Macho's respective claims.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:23 am

Levi, who do you think is scum?

leviathan93 · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:18 pm

I believe that whoever THAD was after is scummy. might be obvious. but good to go on.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:35 pm

still don't believe in 2dumb4scum emp?

VP Baltar · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:36 pm

I'm basically thinking 4trouble has to be it, but it's always good to think about it for a bit if it seems too easy.

Empking · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:44 pm

↑ VP Baltar wrote:still don't believe in 2dumb4scum emp?

If by '2dumb4scum' you mean '2ignorant4scum' and you were just after a rhyme then I suppose I do buy it. (And I suppose a smart person can play ignorant so apparent ignorance coming from a smart person doesn't mean much, wjhile ignorance froma dumb person...)

FourTrouble · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:41 pm

VP, why isn't it Empking?

leviathan93 · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:10 am

I think its More likely to be fourtrouble then Empking. just getting that vibe at the moment.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:06 am

How the fvck is Empking town? You guys need to take another look at PV's ISO, HD's ISO, and compare the way they interact with me and the way they interact with Empking. Take a look at Empking's ISO, compare that to my ISO.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:07 am

Do I have to go back and point out my town tells for you guys?

VP Baltar · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:24 am

↑ FourTrouble wrote:How the fvck is Empking town? You guys need to take another look at PV's ISO, HD's ISO, and compare the way they interact with me and the way they interact with Empking. Take a look at Empking's ISO, compare that to my ISO.

Trust me, I'll give you a fair shake and look at all those things. I haven't voted you as of this time, so that pretty much implies I"m not jumping to any conclusions. I just see you as much more desperate right now to "prove" you had no connections with scum. It doesn't feel right.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:26 am

I'll spell it out for you again: PV had no interactions with Empking whatsoever yet implicitly defends him multiple times. Further, HD's suspicion of Empking on D1 was totally irrational and unrealistic. Take a look at HD's interactions with Rest compared with Empking. Finally, note that Empking implicitly defended PV and HD (the scummy part being it was implicit).

FourTrouble · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:28 am

I am fvcking desperate - Nacho thinks I'm scum, you think I'm scum, Levi thinks I'm scum, and Empking obviously is gonna vote whoever he can get lynched. How does desperation in any way whatsoever make me scummy? Empking's not even under any pressure right now so no shit he's not gonna look desperate relatively-speaking.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:32 am

Empking, who you gonna vote when I flip town?

VP Baltar · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:35 am

Well, personally, if I was you and I knew I was town and was pretty certain empking was scum, I wouldn't really be desperate. Even if I was lynched, town could just easily lynch the obv scum the following day. Hence why I think think reeking of desperation is more likely to come from scum than town.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:45 am

I've been in similar situations before as town and lost. I decided to go down without a fight and the next Day town is stupid enough to lynch the wrong guy. Levi, for example could vote Nacho. I'm not gonna just let myself get lynched. Self-preservation is null. You really need to start looking at the things that actually matter. I've spelled out exactly what makes Empking more likely to be scum.

If you have some reason you think Empking is town, now is the time to explain.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:16 pm

Link to your example please

Empking · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:59 pm

In post 1113, FourTrouble wrote:Empking, who you gonna vote when I flip town?

You're not going to flip town, but if you did it'd have to be VP which is how I know you're not going to flip town.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:28 pm

When I flip town, how are you going to argue for your defense Empking?

Empking · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:32 pm

In post 1118, FourTrouble wrote:When I flip town, how are you going to argue for your defense Empking?

You're not going to flip town. I've nothing more to say to on this line of thought; nobody else makes sense as scum.

FourTrouble · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:34 pm

Okay. Lynch me, Empking dies tomorrow. GG.

Empking · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:36 pm

Okay, mAtE.

Vote: Four

FourTrouble · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:42 pm

btw, we can add refusal to consider my flip as town to Empking's list of scummy behavior, as well as his very delayed vote considering his certainty.

Sotty7 · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:01 am

"You are astonishing.
The truth I shall share, without sentiment."

1st vote count of Day five

Empking: 1 (FourTrouble)

FourTrouble: 1 (Empking)

Not voting: 3 (Nachomamma8, leviathan93, VP Baltar)

With

5

alive it will take

3

to lynch.

Deadline for the end of the day is in (expired on 2013-04-28 18:00:00)

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:59 am

In post 1111, FourTrouble wrote:I'll spell it out for you again: PV had no interactions with Empking whatsoever yet implicitly defends him multiple times. Further, HD's suspicion of Empking on D1 was totally irrational and unrealistic. Take a look at HD's interactions with Rest compared with Empking. Finally, note that Empking implicitly defended PV and HD (the scummy part being it was implicit).

Irrational suspicion is scummy in general, and unless there's a specific reason that suspicion led to them being partners, all you're doing is making a case for HD-scum. No interactions with Empking but implicitly defending him is also a strange point since the person whose attacked Empking the most in this game is... HD. I'd like something better than this, something maybe focused more on Empking and not interactions?