Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[Eye Urn]

My only question is whether it's intentionally false or you really could read this day's posts and come away with that impression.

I think she's just making it all up in her head as she goes along. That's about the only thing that fits the picture well.

Going to bed, I'll be on tomorrow night.

[Deras]

I am Town, And any direction that town moves and i ll move along.
And i am afraid of getting lynched. I am very well aware that not all town team will survive to the end, i know that some of us will have to be either mislynched or night killed by mafia, i just didn't want to go down without a fight.

This is silly, of course I'd like to live to the end, but while protecting myself is good for town (because I know I'd be a mislynch) my main goal is to weed out the scum, not just live as much as possible. I'd rather die and have the town win than live to the end and let the scum win.

[goodmorning]

@Fe: You're missing what I'm trying to get at, and I don't know any way to word it better.

[fferyllt]

fine. I love hammering GM anyways....

unvote

I didn't say thank you. Thank you.

[VisceraEyes]

Post 90 - GM
Townie post. I can't see scum unvoting someone for that reason - more likely to keep their vote on and call it pressure to post...especially with the current sentiment against lurkers at this point in the game.

[VisceraEyes]

Page 4 - Lots of people were suspicious of Deras for the way he handled Rev's initial vote of him. That seems to have evaporated - I look forward to seeing how and why.

[VisceraEyes]

Meant to include post 90
That looks like flail.

I finally found something I disagree with feryl about. ^^

[VisceraEyes]

Mac's 188 was a huge wall of nothing with no conclusions and no scumreads and no votes. There's a fair amount of crap in that spoiler, and it smacks of trying to appear active. But what I find most concerning is the fact that GM gives Mac an unequivocal town read because of it.

I don't know which is more scummy.

[VisceraEyes]

Still reading, responding to say Fe = chemical symbol for Iron = Eye Urn.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[VisceraEyes]

Checking in page 13: from what I've read so far I might be willing to hammer GM...still reading, and I may prefer a Mac lynch, but after 13 pages it's not looking good for GM.

[Mac]

Hey, I just woke up and there is carnaaage!

Anyway, a quick glance and GM has suddenly decided that I'm not town and possibly worthy of a lynch. Why? I'll catch up more after work.

[Z7-852]

Well that was a active night. Lots to read and comment on. I'am sorry you guys (#730) but summary posting is the only way for me to play this game due to fact that you mostly play when I'am sleeping. And this wagon against me went up fast like Mac (#760) stated but that's not a big problem.

First I couldn't disagree more with VisceraEyes (#710) about the way he thinks this game works. I presume that scum wouldn't likely lynch a fellow scum. So when there are many wagons scum must choose which wagon to go on. This tells the other people who could be their partners.

VisceraEyes

seemed (#719) too eager to start a bandwagon against someone. Town should be little more careful about their acts and don't rush into things. VisceraEyes says he wants to focus on one player but is still open (#736) to vote someone else. For me this looks like a attempt to get a fast lynch. Something that I think is scummy. I know that he says he also looks at other people (#775), but won't share his ideas or reads. When other players have tried to point out flaws in his logic, VisceraEyes still refuse (#802) to open up the thought process more. I also don't understand the reason why he dropped the wagon (#810) without any reasoning. Looks like he is fishing a easy lynch and when he didn't get one he switched the target.

I don't know if it is just me but VisceraEyes seems to be more suspicious about players that disagree (#798) (#802) than players that are more with him on the wagon (#799). This isn't anything abnormal in it's self but to me its looks like he's trying to butter up his supporters. This also would answer fferyllt's (#858) question.

I understand why

ArcAngel9

would come (#717) aboard on bandwagon against me. She's worried about her own hide. Can't understand why VisceraEyes (#783) don't understand this. ArcAngel9 is currently just trying to draw attention away from herself and to other players. But she really haven't give too much reasoning behind her votes which still concerns me a lot. She even admits my logic to be true (#896).

Also

goodmorning

jumped (#721) into lynching party so fast. I know she have been pressuring me little but when opportunity showed she didn't resist a bit. Still it looks like She thinks this slot is scummy because how my Fropome played the game. This seems little hollow reason at this stage of came. But once she opened upped the case and game some reasoning (#830) there were more to shew on. I really can't comment on the whole Fropome case because I haven't had time to read the whole thread. Still it seem that she is hanging too strongly on her reads about Fropome (#851) and not weighing latest facts more. Again looks like she is resisting to give out on a good wagon. I also agree that using CAPS (#856) makes someone seems frustrated and scummy. Goodmorning is really starting to lose her marbles (#888). This isn't good for town or for scums.
What comes to goodmornings IC comment (#869) it couldn't be more wrong. By creating possible teams we can eliminate people outside. Using this we can focus more on suspicious players. Also thinking ahead is always good even before the flip. Not saying we shouldn't focus on other tells but scumpairing gives us more possible information as long as logic behind it's valid.

Mac

gave some good points (#773) in his summary post. Not only because he agrees me on that VIsceraEyes is too eager to lynch someone.

For me it still looks like goodmorning and VisceraEyes are my prime suspects. ArcAngel9 haven't got much focus during last night but won't chance my stand on her either. Goodmorning also didn't give reason (#851) (#857) why she didn't want to see VisceraEyes to get lynched. I think that VisceraEyes (#842) saw same pattern than me. There really can't be two scums in goodmorning, ArcAngel9 and Z7-852 set. There for I must conclude that VisceraEyes and goodmorning must be a team (untill I get more information). Currently I'am not willing to lynch anyone else except one of these two.

This was really heavy post and focusing really on my to prime suspects. More I read the postings of the last night more I was certain about my stand.

Scumometer (tm)
fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < ArcAngel9 < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

[fferyllt]

There for I must conclude that VisceraEyes and goodmorning must be a team (untill I get more information). Currently I'am not willing to lynch anyone else except one of these two.

This is terrible. Your whole post is pretty bad. But if you are scum-pair hunting, that bit right there is terrible. If those two are the scum team then what VE did when he started posting - kick the wheels off the AA9 wagon - was inexplicable from a scum perspective.

[Revenus]

@mod

Going to request a replace out because as of late I've been way too busy to keep up with any of my games. Good luck guys!

[goodmorning]

But what I find most concerning is the fact that GM gives Mac an unequivocal town read because of it.

It's the magic of meta. He's been dropping in the ranks for a while though, as you may see from my more recent readslists and my very recent calling him out for buddying.

Spoiler: Response to Z

I presume that scum wouldn't likely lynch a fellow scum.

IC: Yes they would, it's called bussing and it's extremely common.

Looks like [VE] is fishing a easy lynch and when he didn't get one he switched the target.

If he was looking for an easy lynch the AA lynch was

right there

.

Also

goodmorning

jumped (#721) into lynching party so fast.

No. I have been voting that slot for a full 2 weeks. This is nothing new in the slightest.

Still it looks like She thinks this slot is scummy because how my Fropome played the game. This seems little hollow reason at this stage of came.

Really?

Really?

Still it seem that she is hanging too strongly on her reads about Fropome (#851) and not weighing latest facts more.

Nothing

in your posts is even a

slight

towntell. NOTHING. That's a pretty late fact.

I also agree that using CAPS (#856) makes someone seems frustrated and scummy.

Or it makes them look like they love Capslock. The last game I was in that used THIS MUCH CAPS was Newbie 1326, in which I was Town, and not frustrated.

What comes to goodmornings IC comment (#869) it couldn't be more wrong. By creating possible teams we can eliminate people outside. Using this we can focus more on suspicious players. Also thinking ahead is always good even before the flip. Not saying we shouldn't focus on other tells but scumpairing gives us more possible information as long as logic behind it's valid.

NO. NO.
1. In my role as IC I cannot lie about theory.
2. If the theory I am discussing is subjective, I will preface with "in my opinion".
3. This theory is not subjective. THERE IS NO SITUATION IN WHICH ONE SHOULD SPECULATE ON TEAMS D1 (in this setup).

Goodmorning also didn't give reason (#851) (#857) why she didn't want to see VisceraEyes to get lynched.

Because the fact that I've had a Townread on that slot for the past 30 pages is completely irrelevant.

There really can't be two scums in goodmorning, ArcAngel9 and Z7-852 set.

I don't see why not, though it is unlikely at this point.

There for I must conclude that VisceraEyes and goodmorning must be a team (untill I get more information). Currently I'am not willing to lynch anyone else except one of these two.

Really? Why not me and Mac or AA9 and Rev or yourself and VE? There is not a shred of logic being used here.

@mod

Going to request a replace out because as of late I've been way too busy to keep up with any of my games. Good luck guys!

Well... yay?
Keeping up the trend of ridiculous amounts of replacements is fun?

@Mod: will we get a deadline extension for this?

[Z7-852]

(#911) Yeah I agree that my post was pretty bad. Too much text to cover and didn't have time to really work on the text. I think VE started the second wagon so that people wouldn't judge him if he would hammervote right away. If you enter a game and just hammervote someone you are quite easily painted as a scum.

I cant really believe that people just keep on dropping from this game. This is completely impossible to play.

Scumometer (tm)
fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < ArcAngel9 < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

[goodmorning]

And what do you have to say about 914?

[fferyllt]

(#911) Yeah I agree that my post was pretty bad. Too much text to cover and didn't have time to really work on the text. I think VE started the second wagon so that people wouldn't judge him if he would hammervote right away. If you enter a game and just hammervote someone you are quite easily painted as a scum.

I cant really believe that people just keep on dropping from this game. This is completely impossible to play.

Scumometer (tm)
fferyllt < Revenus < Eye urn < Deras < Mac < ArcAngel9 < goodmorning < VisceraEyes

What happened here with a sudden new bandwagon is not at all unusual. The loose consensus that forms about a player can disappear in a heartbeat, and IT IS ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT where things will go after that. Your ideas about what scum will do, and that they would want to precipitate a period of chaotic wagon movement when the vote isn't on one of them...is I dunno. Interesting in theory? But pretty disconnected from reality.

[fferyllt]

We have a day and a half unless Tracey give us an extension while she locates a Rev replacement.

VE, have you completed you thread catch-up?

[Mac]

But what I find most concerning is the fact that GM gives Mac an unequivocal town read because of it.

It's the magic of meta. He's been dropping in the ranks for a while though, as you may see from my more recent readslists and my very recent calling him out for buddying.

Spoiler: Response to Z

I presume that scum wouldn't likely lynch a fellow scum.

IC: Yes they would, it's called bussing and it's extremely common.

Looks like [VE] is fishing a easy lynch and when he didn't get one he switched the target.

If he was looking for an easy lynch the AA lynch was

right there

.

Also

goodmorning

jumped (#721) into lynching party so fast.

No. I have been voting that slot for a full 2 weeks. This is nothing new in the slightest.

Still it looks like She thinks this slot is scummy because how my Fropome played the game. This seems little hollow reason at this stage of came.

Really?

Really?

Still it seem that she is hanging too strongly on her reads about Fropome (#851) and not weighing latest facts more.

Nothing

in your posts is even a

slight

towntell. NOTHING. That's a pretty late fact.

I also agree that using CAPS (#856) makes someone seems frustrated and scummy.

Or it makes them look like they love Capslock. The last game I was in that used THIS MUCH CAPS was Newbie 1326, in which I was Town, and not frustrated.

What comes to goodmornings IC comment (#869) it couldn't be more wrong. By creating possible teams we can eliminate people outside. Using this we can focus more on suspicious players. Also thinking ahead is always good even before the flip. Not saying we shouldn't focus on other tells but scumpairing gives us more possible information as long as logic behind it's valid.

NO. NO.
1. In my role as IC I cannot lie about theory.
2. If the theory I am discussing is subjective, I will preface with "in my opinion".
3. This theory is not subjective. THERE IS NO SITUATION IN WHICH ONE SHOULD SPECULATE ON TEAMS D1 (in this setup).

Goodmorning also didn't give reason (#851) (#857) why she didn't want to see VisceraEyes to get lynched.

Because the fact that I've had a Townread on that slot for the past 30 pages is completely irrelevant.

There really can't be two scums in goodmorning, ArcAngel9 and Z7-852 set.

I don't see why not, though it is unlikely at this point.

There for I must conclude that VisceraEyes and goodmorning must be a team (untill I get more information). Currently I'am not willing to lynch anyone else except one of these two.

Really? Why not me and Mac or AA9 and Rev or yourself and VE? There is not a shred of logic being used here.

@mod

Going to request a replace out because as of late I've been way too busy to keep up with any of my games. Good luck guys!

Well... yay?
Keeping up the trend of ridiculous amounts of replacements is fun?

@Mod: will we get a deadline extension for this?

Well A) I don't think I buddied you and B) I didn't take your buddying accusation seriously because of the </3 that (if I recall correctly) accompanied it.

I'm pretty sure I said "goodmorning is a good player" and you get all uppity about this and accuse me of buddying? Sorry for sharing my opinion I guess. I'll just refer to you as terribad from now on, yeah?

If that's buddying, what is this?

Hello everyone. Nice to see someone familiar faces, and not so familiar faces too in this game.

MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT.
EXCITE
_{TRACEY YOU ARE CLEARLY WONDERFULLLLLLLLL}

Furthermore, what exactly are you trying to achieve by chastising Rev replacing out? I'd prefer Rev to replace out if he's unable to keep up and just sporadically posting here and there. Replacements come with the game, nothing can stop them.

Can someone inform me of a VC?

Oh and;

Mainly intended my vote to make VE do a full re-read, because it was patently clear he hadn't. Given that he was pretty much up to bat and we were waiting on him, I can see it coming from a Townie just as much as a scum, especially as he's now admitted my main accusation.

VOTE: goodmorning for Deras. I've voted Libertarian for President (USA) on many occasions interestingly enough.

VOTE: Eye Urn

[TraceyLyn11]

Can't deal with a vote count or the replacement right now, but I wanted to say yes, there will be an extension. Deadline will not pass until after a replacement has been found and had time to post and catch up, don't worry.

[Z7-852]

Dear God this is awful game. Can you lynch kill me out of this? Not really playing to win conditions but if first day will last over 40 pages then this game will be hell to deal with.

[VisceraEyes]

No I fell asleep reading last night. I had dreams about this game XD

Last thing I read was pg 13

[VisceraEyes]

I will say though feryl, if you're scum I may just have to lose my shit. Fair warning.

[fferyllt]

Dear God this is awful game. Can you lynch kill me out of this? Not really playing to win conditions but if first day will last over 40 pages then this game will be hell to deal with.

future days will almost certainly be shorter. In some cases much shorter.