Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

VisceraEyes · Post Post #925 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:50 am

In Angel's 264 in her "catch up" post, she was suspicious of only Eye Urn and Rev. It should be quite interesting to see how that flips around.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #926 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:59 am

Okay fuck this, we're getting extended right?

Mac wagon, gogogo.

VOTE: Mac

At pg 15 and Mac hasn't said a damn thing I like the whole game. Not one. I'm still reading, but GM is just active enough to keep around until tomorrow and Mac is just inactive enough to draw my ire. Early on in the game he was cheerleading lynches without adding his support to them in the form of a vote, and when he finally did place a vote, it didn't feel like a townie finally deciding who the best candidate was, it felt like scum finally deciding where to park his vote.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #927 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:01 am

feryl you're on my team, unless you've other obligations. As long as we have each other, scum cannot win.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #928 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:03 am

EU I'd really like you on my team too, but understand if both my posting and this initiative are horrifyingly unorthodox to you.

fferyllt · Post Post #929 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:06 am

Short shelf lives, I'll bet.

I reread the first 8-10 pages of the game last night. I came away with a fresh townread from Fropome's posts. I usually do more of a reset when a player replaces into a slot, but with the experiential meta - literally involved as a player or mod in every game he's played so far - reset is just not happening.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #930 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:09 am

Vote Mac or tell me who I should be voting for and why feryl.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #931 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:18 am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAVE I CHOSEN POORLY??

fferyllt · Post Post #932 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:19 am

Need to do another iso on him. My game is largely based on analyzing reactions/interactions that I provoke with other players or that they provoke with me. I was kinda busy slapfighting with GM during much of the early game. Mac snapped into focus when he took up part of her case and voted me. The other thing I remember was him getting bent out of shape after I unvoted AA9 when Carey p much randomly (from my perspective) pushed her to L-1. I get a lot of that crap on MS.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #933 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:21 am

In post 451, Fropome wrote:Okay, in the interests of moving forward and widening out a bit, and to make sure I don't
support a mislynch in my absence
.
UNVOTE: goodmorning

This post from Frop really irks me...presumably he thinks GM is scum (being the reason his vote was on her)...so like, why would he call her a mislynch while unvoting? It's not like he's saying his opinion changed, he's saying he doesn't want to be on the wagon while he's gone...

VisceraEyes · Post Post #934 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:34 am

Man...I guess I'll be back in about an hour.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #935 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:35 am

I'm up to pg 20 btdubz.

fferyllt · Post Post #936 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:47 am

80 - Sort of backing up GM here, supporting that early Deras wagon without putting down a vote.

95 - Deras strongest scum read.

261 - This is where he takes up part of GM's case on me. I remember being really surprised at this at the time. I had the impression of a thoughtful, somewhat cautious player up to that point, in part because he'd never put a vote down. No vote in the first 250 posts of a game is kinda remarkable.

517 - where he backed off. At that point I thought his vote was extremely stale. He wasn't interacting with me. He wasn't pushing for more votes on me. He was just sitting there on what I thought and think was a bad case. This sentence seems kinda strange, forced even:

I can't follow up on a case that is based on a misrep, it wouldn't be right and it wouldn't be town.

If you're town, then by definition what you are doing is being town. The only question is how effective you are being as town.

548 - up in arms about my unvote after Carey up AA at L-1. I unvoted, stating that my suspicions hadn't changed but didn't want a premature hammer.

General observations - Long periods of no vote, really sticky vote on me, stayed on Carey for a long time while slot was filled, as though there was nothing more to sort re other players without that replacement. Absent from game thread for long periods. Follows/supports GM frequently, including his vote today on Eye. Misreps? Misunderstandings? Took a long damn time to work out the flaws in his case on me.

It's a tight, cautious game.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #937 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:49 am

The most important part of your post there is the number of times you used the phrase "supported without putting a vote down"

VisceraEyes · Post Post #938 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:50 am

Anyways I'm off tow ork. It might be about 2 hours before I'm in a position to play Mafia, but I should be back on soon enough.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on a Mac lynch versus a GM lynch.

fferyllt · Post Post #939 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:18 am

In post 933, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 451, Fropome wrote:Okay, in the interests of moving forward and widening out a bit, and to make sure I don't
support a mislynch in my absence
.
UNVOTE: goodmorning
This post from Frop really irks me...presumably he thinks GM is scum (being the reason his vote was on her)...so like, why would he call her a mislynch while unvoting? It's not like he's saying his opinion changed, he's saying he doesn't want to be on the wagon while he's gone...

Look at 446 again. He was acknowledging and to some extent agreeing with my reasons for backing off GM, myself. I think the key phrase there is "just to make sure".

fferyllt · Post Post #940 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:30 am

In post 938, VisceraEyes wrote:Anyways I'm off tow ork. It might be about 2 hours before I'm in a position to play Mafia, but I should be back on soon enough.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on a Mac lynch versus a GM lynch.

I'd prefer a Mac lynch.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #941 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:35 am

Yeah that makes sense re: Frop. I guess I didn't take his interaction with you to mean that he'd changed his read of her - only that he understood your viewpoint.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #942 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:36 am

That is to say, assuming he's town, I can see you having swayed his read of her enough to unvote - I just didn't associate those two posts together for some reason.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #943 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:47 am

You're teasing me with all this Mac talk and no vote fferyl.

fferyllt · Post Post #944 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:51 am

Wasn't too excited about the wagon frenzies yesterday.

VOTE: Mac

VisceraEyes · Post Post #945 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:53 am

Oh stop it it's deadline time, that's what we DO.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #946 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:54 am

Like I know you would have missed me and everything, but I'm confident you would have figured out who's to blame.

fferyllt · Post Post #947 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:56 am

right. with another replacement. on the plus side, it might prevent another Sargasso Sea effect while we wait for Rev's replacement.

p-edit idgi

VisceraEyes · Post Post #948 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:59 am

I just assumed you were referring to me getting up to L1.

I'm completely lost re: Z, a reread didn't help me at all. I had a townISH read on Frop, but I still can't reconcile his posting with Z's. I was town on both AT3 and AA9, so the reread helped me there, but it really didn't do much for my read of Z. It doesn't help that he's got me as scum - that clouds my judgement whether it should or not.

fferyllt · Post Post #949 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:02 am

Three bandwagons pushed to L-1 in a matter of a few hours. I had to breath into a paper bag.