In post 1336, Majiffy wrote: In post 1322, Svenskt Stål wrote:Lets start with this,
Majiffy ends up on a wagon with me and selkies, two of whom he has suspected the entire game. One would think that he would be like "hmm I dont think DGB is flipping scum here because there are alot of scummy people on her wagon" but instead he goes "if dgb flips scum then selk is scum too"
, reasoning in line with potato counting. I mean, selk is the one that got dgb lynched,
so either majiffy is remarkably bad at finding scum and general deduction OR he is scum and wants to sound like he dont know which way the flip will fall.
Then there is the fact that he has you and me as scum... thats scummy aswell. I player that is decent should pick up on the fact that selk and me are kinda the only ones trying, but no, majiffy goes loco and tunnels.
This post is horribly, wretchedly, in-your-face demonstrably wrong and scummy. Allow me to demonstrate.
Bolded:
Spinning something
I could not have ever been in the position to change
as somehow scummy on my end. Selkies voted AFTER me. Sven QUICKHAMMERED IN THE VERY NEXT POST. How could I ever possibly have any choice in being on a wagon with two players I had scum reads on? Answer: I couldn't.
Underlined
: Using the above faulty and blatant-lie reasoning above to discredit me and sling mud at me.
Italicized
: Blatant buddying and tying himself in with a claimed PR.
THIS IS 100% WITHOUT A DOUBT SCUM BEHAVIOR.
But wait! There's more!
In post 1208, Svenskt Stål wrote:It also doesnt make sense since he has no problem being on a wagon with both you and me.
In post 1211, Svenskt Stål wrote:I just cant belive a townie would think that selkies would be scum with dgb after selkies brings it to L-1 and asks me to hammer.
Look at how closely these obviously contradictory statements are.
THIS NEEDS TO DIE. ROPE. NOW.
Re what you bolded - I read that differently. I didn't see it as being about your staying on a bandwagon that I L-1'ed and Svenskt hammered. I saw it as being about your comment afterwards - that if DGB flipped scum then I would also be scum because I hadn't supported the DO bandwagon earlier. You had both of us leaning scummy (though I think you softened that a little bit wrt me). I believe he thought it would have made more sense to assume that as scum we were driving home a mislynch not a scum lynch.
The underlined gets tossed around so often by town players and scum players that it's basically just bullshit wifom. The italicized has been going on all game. I'm surprised it only hit your radar at this point. It's part of the meta, though. And I think it's why he was so mad at me last night - I did not make an effort to have the back of a player I had a town-read on. That's how he plays - find town, ally and stick up for your town reads. PoE through what you can't see as town.
Your 2nd quote is a little more troubling and tbh when I said I'd had enough last night, unvoted and shut down, that quote was still bothering me.
But I have to weigh it against the layers and layers of town-read that I've gotten over the last nearly 50 plages. When playing fast and loose in a short, timed game format, you don't weigh and filter things nearly to the extent that is possible in these weeks-long game days. If I'm wrong about Svenskt I'll be shocked. Svenskt's mafia background is similar to mine in that respect. Short, lightning-fast game days.
