In post 1021, VisceraEyes wrote:But of course, you COULD be scumhunting. Defending yourself is cool and everything, but if you REALLY want to help town you should be telling us who you think is scum and why. I'm not lynching EU today, who else is suspicious to you?
EU is my main lynch; waiting on GM's replies to an earlier post before I decide if she's worthy of today's lynch.
But still I'm struggling to read you. You're tunneling like fuck on me and now pulling some "he wasn't around for these wagons" claim out to support it, when it's clearly an event that can't be helped.
While not as strongly as in the past, I still like Mac as Town, even after he voted for me and actually that caused me to like him more. He is absolutely right that my recent update to where my vote is being placed looks like shit when you aren't fully aware of my thought processes. Two things happened between that post and my previous one: VE agreed he needed to read the thread, and Deras said he'd be interested in a GM lynch if there was more support. If one had been psychic, one would have known that GM was the most scummy person to me and thus the default placement once the vote on VE was no longer needed, and I failed to realize that people aren't always following your entire train of thought, especially since my vote had been on AA9 before VE. Looking back on it, I should have said something more like I said later.
It does bother me that Mac didn't later see my line of thought and pull back his vote, but human minds work very illogically. I don't fault him at all for thinking some of my behavior recently has been scummy, nor do I for that particular post putting him over the edge. My digression into statistics was ill-advised and ill-worded, and I'm not surprised if it was read the wrong way. I explained what I meant the best I could and if he can't figure it out, oh well. Unlike GM, I don't care what other people think about me.
Now after thinking about it I can totally see GM's continual slips of showing that she hasn't read the thread closely to be coming from a townie. She just doesn't want to be bothered with playing the game well, she just wants to play it her way and damn the consequences. It's in such opposition to the way I try to play it's remarkable. It's also very anti-town. If she's not scum, she's doing town a huge disfavor. I can compare that to AA9 whose arguments literally make no sense and is wantonly disregarding how her self-preservation votes are looking and say that it just seems way totally too obviously bad for it to be legitimately scum-based. She's also doing town a huge disfavor by existing in this game, and while I can vote to remove her as well, I think it's less likely that she's actually scum. Day 1 with brand-new people you've never met things aren't going to be very clear cut; I just have to take my stand against the person I think is helping town the least by their presence.
The only people I will vote to lynch right now are AA9 and GM. I could possibly be convinced to lynch VE, Z7, and ffer, if someone puts forward a decent enough case. I'd rather no lynch than lynch Mac, Rev, or Deras.
In post 1024, VisceraEyes wrote:I'm not sure what you're asking, he's defending himself using almost exclusively meta.
She's pointing out Mac uses mainly meta for his defense, but dismissed meta as a valid case against GM. Reading everything that happened since I was here.
In post 1026, Eye Urn wrote:While not as strongly as in the past, I still like Mac as Town, even after he voted for me and actually that caused me to like him more. He is absolutely right that my recent update to where my vote is being placed looks like shit when you aren't fully aware of my thought processes. Two things happened between that post and my previous one: VE agreed he needed to read the thread, and Deras said he'd be interested in a GM lynch if there was more support. If one had been psychic, one would have known that GM was the most scummy person to me and thus the default placement once the vote on VE was no longer needed, and I failed to realize that people aren't always following your entire train of thought, especially since my vote had been on AA9 before VE. Looking back on it, I should have said something more like I said later.
It does bother me that Mac didn't later see my line of thought and pull back his vote, but human minds work very illogically. I don't fault him at all for thinking some of my behavior recently has been scummy, nor do I for that particular post putting him over the edge. My digression into statistics was ill-advised and ill-worded, and I'm not surprised if it was read the wrong way. I explained what I meant the best I could and if he can't figure it out, oh well. Unlike GM, I don't care what other people think about me.
Now after thinking about it
I can totally see GM's continual slips of showing that she hasn't read the thread closely to be coming from a townie
. She just doesn't want to be bothered with playing the game well, she just wants to play it her way and damn the consequences. It's in such opposition to the way I try to play it's remarkable. It's also very anti-town. If she's not scum, she's doing town a huge disfavor. I can compare that to AA9 whose arguments literally make no sense and is wantonly disregarding how her self-preservation votes are looking and say that it just seems way totally too obviously bad for it to be legitimately scum-based. She's also doing town a huge disfavor by existing in this game, and while I can vote to remove her as well, I think it's less likely that she's actually scum. Day 1 with brand-new people you've never met things aren't going to be very clear cut; I just have to take my stand against the person I think is helping town the least by their presence.
The only people I will vote to lynch right now are AA9 and GM. I could possibly be convinced to lynch VE, Z7, and ffer, if someone puts forward a decent enough case. I'd rather no lynch than lynch Mac, Rev, or Deras.
You were dead set againt lynching Z7 yesterday.
And your two players you are willing to lynch today, you can totally see their play as terribad town.
Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
In post 1026, Eye Urn wrote:While not as strongly as in the past, I still like Mac as Town, even after he voted for me and actually that caused me to like him more. He is absolutely right that my recent update to where my vote is being placed looks like shit when you aren't fully aware of my thought processes. Two things happened between that post and my previous one: VE agreed he needed to read the thread, and Deras said he'd be interested in a GM lynch if there was more support. If one had been psychic, one would have known that GM was the most scummy person to me and thus the default placement once the vote on VE was no longer needed, and I failed to realize that people aren't always following your entire train of thought, especially since my vote had been on AA9 before VE. Looking back on it, I should have said something more like I said later.
It does bother me that Mac didn't later see my line of thought and pull back his vote, but human minds work very illogically. I don't fault him at all for thinking some of my behavior recently has been scummy, nor do I for that particular post putting him over the edge. My digression into statistics was ill-advised and ill-worded, and I'm not surprised if it was read the wrong way. I explained what I meant the best I could and if he can't figure it out, oh well. Unlike GM, I don't care what other people think about me.
Now after thinking about it I can totally see GM's continual slips of showing that she hasn't read the thread closely to be coming from a townie. She just doesn't want to be bothered with playing the game well, she just wants to play it her way and damn the consequences. It's in such opposition to the way I try to play it's remarkable. It's also very anti-town. If she's not scum, she's doing town a huge disfavor
.
I can compare that to AA9 whose arguments literally make no sense and is wantonly disregarding how her self-preservation votes are looking and say that it just seems way totally too obviously bad for it to be legitimately scum-based. She's also doing town a huge disfavor by existing in this game, and while I can vote to remove her as well, I think it's less likely that she's actually scum
. Day 1 with brand-new people you've never met things aren't going to be very clear cut; I just have to take my stand against the person I think is helping town the least by their presence.
The only people I will vote to lynch right now are AA9 and GM. I could possibly be convinced to lynch VE, Z7, and ffer, if someone puts forward a decent enough case. I'd rather no lynch than lynch Mac, Rev, or Deras.
Wow did you just Softly admitted that you wanted to Policylynch GM and ME becuase you suck at scum hunting.
and btw your long useless posts hurts my eye each time i read them.
I rather see you go... than anyone at this moment.
Like you fucking shit. I fell asleep at 4am reading this motherfucker, at YOUR behest because I think you're town. You don't even COMMENT on my points against Mac, only rehash your own fucking points and why they may or may not be valid. Why would you even CARE if I read the thread if YOU'RE NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN WHAT I POST AFTER I DO?!
In post 1032, VisceraEyes wrote:Like you fucking shit. I fell asleep at 4am reading this motherfucker, at YOUR behest because I think you're town. You don't even COMMENT on my points against Mac, only rehash your own fucking points and why they may or may not be valid. Why would you even CARE if I read the thread if YOU'RE NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN WHAT I POST AFTER I DO?!
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
Frankly that bullshit dragged EU down to null for me. I can't bring myself to not care about this game - explain why you think EU is a "wannabe townie" rather than an actual townie AA.
And for the record, I don't want you to sheep me even if you convince me on EU - one of the reasons I'm SO convinced feryl is town is how she's challenging my ideas and entering discourse with me regarding my reads and thoughts. She's genuinely trying to figure out the game, and it's obvious in her posting (at least it seems obvious to me.)
I don't want a town full of sheep to do my bidding, I want a town full of people who want to find scum with me.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
I mean, as sure as you can be on D1 with no flips? Semantics. You know what I mean - do you have anything specific that causes you to be uncertain? Or is it just a general paranoia kind of uncertainty?
You say you'd lynch EU. Would you think less of me if I OMGUS all over his face and sheep you? I'm just angry enough to do it, but frankly it's not worth the eyebrow-raise from you to me. UGH I hate getting so invested in these games, this is part of why I wanted to read overnight - remain as objective as possible for as long as possible. -.-
walking around in deep fog, along with the usual helping of paranoia.
I had to go back to the beginning of the thread and read Fropome's posts to recapture how I thought he was seeing the game. I almost helped get his slot lynched yesterday without doing that first.
I feel better about my town reads than my scum reads atm and I'm highly suspicious of people who disagree with those reads when I can't see why. Which was why I was so pissed about the bandwagons last night.
How do I true that up with my own vote on Z7? Rhetorical question.
You are making sense. Sensible discussion has been kinda lacking. Z7 isn't the only player who posts big update posts. It's like talking to a wall. But, without enough viewpoints being actively kicked around - not just blogged - echo chamber is also an issue.
Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
I mean, the pitfalls of playing in a slow-moving environment being used to a fast-moving one amirite?
To be fair though, that may be another reason that I have a townread on you whether it should be or not - how you always seem to BE here. It would be really easy for you to FAKE interest in the game as scum in this way, but because you're like, the ONLY other person who's around as much as I am that doesn't even matter to me.
So essentially I'm putting all my eggs in the townFferyllt basket, foolishly. But, as we're both finding, that's not enough is it?
I mean look at Eye's latest post. His top two lynch picks are players he thinks could be terribad town. He makes a plea for someone else to make a case on somebody and convince him. He admits that he's not showing his own work when he puts down a vote or takes off a vote. The latter actually looks a little townish. Scum tend to be more obsessive than town about telegraphing "thought progressions" on players. There ought to be some fucking urgency this close to nightfall.
Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
