Mini 1436 ~ Mafia Through a Puppy's Eyes (Game Over.)

[Messiah]

Re: 419
Why so hate?

Re: 430
Yeah but you still get a ton of cops that always investigate their strongest scum reads and whatever. People are bad at this game.

[SpyreX]

PARAMA OK YOU ARE TOWN I GET IT

Pleeeeaseee give me some damn direction today because I'm scraping against the walls in the hole trying to make things happen.

Since LOLWIFOMSLOL you're dead tonight you can have my vote today. Whomever. IceGuy makes it hard and if I'm wrong there I just give up on defending bad ever and go back to just purging it with fire.

[Parama]

no spyspy I am the scum
also I bloody hope I get killed tonight, this isn't my mess and I don't want to clean it up

I honestly want to hold off on a lynch (WHAT WHAT DID HE SAY PARAMA IS GUISED POLICY LYNCH HIM) and hear from LLD because, seriously now, if there's ever a candidate for under-the-radar scum (my worst fear right now) it's her and I want CONTENT even if I don't actually think I'll care about the content when/if it is given

Out of the three derpmobiles it's probable Ice > Panzer > Cheery right now though
And outside of that, uhhh. hmm.
I dunno, I guess LLD is my top pick? Followed by impy then you? I don't know why but Messiah just doesn't feel right as scum, and Maxous is my one town read
But
honestly
I DON'T EVEN KNOW
someone help me ;~;

The way this game is Maxous is literally the only person who doesn't have some chance of flipping scum at this point because the scum apparently have it out for my town reads
I don't particularly support one lynch over the other and I'd be willing to get behind multiple lynches at the moment

What I REALLY want to see is the people screwing around to get their act together and give me a reason to not policy lynch them in all future games.
god I need a miracle

[Parama]

umm looking at the wagons as they stand
Iceguy is literally me, townbadge, and "the least bad"
aka about as righteous a wagon as can possibly happen.
so umm, just roll with that when/if LLD ever gets around to posting her thing
if the battery gets under 10% we're lynching within the next 24 hours no matter what though so
ALSO
quicklynching LLD tomorrow for abuse of deadline if there is no content today
^THIS HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I LIVE OR DIE KTHX

[Parama]

ACTUALLY NO
Impy, vote Ice ASAP. Spyspy, hammer exactly 24 hours from this post.
I don't even give a damn if he's town at this point, he's in the way, useless, and we need to get this train rolling
apathy is the death of town, quicklynches are more powerful than they're given credit for.

NOW IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME since I have 1 class tomorrow and it might literally /not matter/ after the exam I had early this week, I need to get to sleep for it anyways because I'm a ~*good student*~ or something like that

[Parama]

p.s.
I sure hope I don't dream about this game tonight
'cause I don't really like nightmares

[implosion]

dammit parama you're tempting me

[Parama]

DO EET

tempting what

[SpyreX]

IMPLOSION DO IT

GIVE ME ANOTHER HAMMER

orrr we wait and get more aboard the murder train.

I will check in periodically tomorrow at work and hammer anything I swear

[Parama]

no spyspy sorry but don't rush this friggin hammer
24 hours
PATIENCE
VIRTUES

battery won't die in 24 hours anyways

[Sixty]

~Mini Vote Count (13)

IceGuy (L-2)

~ Parama, Maxous, Messiah

Cheery Dog (L-3)

~ IceGuy, SpyreX

Panzerjager (L-4)

~ implosion

implosion (L-4)

~ Cheery Dog

Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, Panzerjager

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(31%)

[Cheery Dog]

And that game is kind of ongoing

I was a few days early then sorry.
But I still fail to see how metaing your cocurrent games would be useful, when the only ones that I really could use are those a few that you replaced out of at the same time. Or some even older ones that shouldn't even count as current.
But I never noticed you failing to read stuff through that had been brought up by others in that game to then go through it later, I guess because it was at night at the time you did it here, but I'm still not getting this shift.

[Parama]

I am disappoint

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't want a hammer until I get a post out about SpySpy after I read him. I'm a little jet-lagged from my flight, but I should be able to do something with that tonight.

[Parama]

YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I DON'T WANT A HAMMER YET
THANK YOU FOR READING

[Lady Lambdadelta]

YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I DON'T WANT A HAMMER YET
THANK YOU FOR READING

Uh huh.

[Parama]

...
umm

...
actually, never mind.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, so starting on SpyreX's ISO:

To begin we have the hammer on Mhork, who later flipped scum. We have a lot of Hollywood-ing from SpyreX, which is pretty par for the course with him and powerlynches. Especially given Parama is in the game with him. What I find weird about SpySpy's early posting is the manner in which he hammers Mhork and his total lack of a immediate response to me asking if he's scum. His Mhork hammer caught my attention because 1)It came without a Mhork claim and 2) the line about doing stupid things. It looked to me like SpyreX just entered the game and was down to bus his scumbuddy to hell, and lynched him without a claim for maximum townie cred.

After this, I don't get a response from SpyreX addressing my "are you scum SpyreX?" comment until 10 posts later when he addresses me with the "middle grouping" stuff and calls me town for calling him scum. Enough had happened after my initial post that SpyreX not only had a full night to think about his response, but it also kind of made his response mean a lot less in the given scenario. Him calling it town is probably the safest move he could do, because it placates me and doesn't engage me head on.

A lot of SpyreX talking about claims after Mhork is dead is really meh. Not alignment indicative, but it also doesn't fill me with townie goodness aura like it should.

That's another thing. SpyreX's posting in twlight after Mhork is lynched is missing 1 thing. It doesn't show any kind of... uncertainty about his flip. He seems very relaxed that he will get the towncred he is looking for. And with a lot of players this would be a huge scumtell, but it's SpyreX and he's got the whole SDC powerlynch meta thing going for him.

But even still, even WITH his powerlynch hammer happy meta, the switch onto Sword is extremely suspect.

Given that SpyreX had been calling for the death of 3 different people that day (Ice,Cheery,Implosion), I find it extremely weird for a town!SpyreX to just accept a lynch and hammer it when he has 3 other things he wants dead (ok 2.5, Ice was always a "need to kill but might not be scum" for him, which in itself is a little scummy).

Especially since he never even mentions Sword before prompting Kanye to vote for him. Not even a peep. Not one iota of a read about him.

Finally, with SpyreX addressing Kanye directly right before the sword lynch, asking him why he is scum, and then Kanye dying, I find it very hard not to loook at SpySpy and wonder if he's scum. Nightkill analysis is a guessing art, but in combination with the weird lynching habits and his lack of reaction to pressure on him, it doesn't look or FEEL townie.

And his play today hasn't been stellar in changing my opinion. Even his reads list seems very forced.

I dunno, for a tl;dr the things that worry me about Spy are:

1) His initial vote on Mhork and then his actions in the twilight following.
2) His total lack of reaction to my asking if he's scum.
3) His interactions with an obvtown KKB
4) His extremely weird Sword vote, especially given his lack of posting anything Sword + his vehement suspicions of other players.

So, um, yeah. I feel more and more like I'm talking myself into a SpyreX lynch here.

[SpyreX]

Maybe later you'll get a real response but seriously:

Finally, with SpyreX addressing Kanye directly right before the sword lynch, asking him why he is scum,

and then Kanye dying

, I find it very hard not to loook at SpySpy and wonder if he's scum.

Nightkill analysis is a guessing art

, but in combination with the weird lynching habits and his lack of reaction to pressure on him, it doesn't look or FEEL townie.

A blind dog could have guessed Kayne was dead to rights.

Because he was never, ever, ever getting lynched ever.

Much like Parama tonight.

Much like Safety N1.

This is doubly true with the absolute pile of slag.

[PJ.]

Iceguy wagon has all the "town guys" on it. I don't like this. Also that wagon sucks in general.

Vote:Implosion

[Maxous]

As in "WHOOSH I don't get it" or "WHOOSH I don't care about it/don't like it"

More the first one, dunno how to interpret it as towny or scummy.

[Maxous]

Iceguy wagon has all the "town guys" on it.

I don't get the problem?
I have warm fuzzies that the other votes are my two strongest town-reads.

[PJ.]

"towniest" players are lynch a townie. It rubs me the wrong way. He's the secone worst lynch available.

[implosion]

And that game is kind of ongoing

I was a few days early then sorry.
But I still fail to see how metaing your cocurrent games would be useful, when the only ones that I really could use are those a few that you replaced out of at the same time. Or some even older ones that shouldn't even count as current.

current ≠ concurrent. Concurrent games don't need to be current or recent. Concurrent just means that they took place simultaneously.

But I never noticed you failing to read stuff through that had been brought up by others in that game to then go through it later, I guess because it was at night at the time you did it here, but I'm still not getting this shift.

Not sure what you mean by this.

Now that 480 is over: it seems like for the duration of me being in both this game and 480 (this is my only game now, just fyi) one of them was usually in night. They probably aren't the best example.

Iceguy wagon has all the "town guys" on it. I don't like this. Also that wagon sucks in general.

Vote:Implosion

*twitch*

heading to dinner in a couple minutes so can't look at lld's post right now but will later.

[Sixty]

Post fetch! (Better than fetching the postman!)