The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

Benmage · Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:52 pm

I'd say yes... but even taking one game at a time.. I don't feel right if I pull a scum role, and there's a chance I not post ("content") for 5 days... it isn't fair....

Benmage · Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:54 pm

I'm sure I'll return when things settle.. my new position at work has me nutsly busy, 9+ hours a day, after school events open houses etc.. (admin in school is bussssy)... (I moved during that week before my trip too)... Looking to buy a house.. now planning a wedding... RL of simply working out/rugby/ friends.

When things calm down, we'll see.. maybe come the fall.

camn · Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:54 pm

In post 3444, DeasVail wrote:I'm just sorry I wasn't more town.

You weren't so bad!
I just reread you three times, and you were pretty good.

But you practically claimed scum at a couple key points. >headdesk<

Seriously, though.. I couldn't/still can't see you killing kuribo- why would you have, as scum?

Benmage · Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:55 pm

In post 3448, camn wrote:YOU BETTER TAKE THAT HIATUS, BECAUSE I AM GRUDGEKILLING YOU FOREVER

I'll note to NK you n1 should this happen

DeasVail · Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Yeah, that sounds like a lot to handle.

PEdit: Because the only reason I would have kept him alive was because he thought I was town, so as scum I would have thought that him being alive was only because I was scum, so if people thought about things logically, then things would point straight to me.

I don't know if it would have been a good decision, but that's how I would have felt.

Also, I'd have to convince Kuribo that Benmage/Camn left him alive to make him paranoid about me and that kind of thing doesn't happen usually.

Benmage · Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:00 pm

I wish abstas didnt die as soon as he did... we had some promise I think.

I'd link the scumqt, but that might be overkill before faraday comes in.

camn · Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:06 pm

I gotta go drink.

Hate you both.

Benmage · Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:13 pm

Make it a double... Jason gets to record this as a win...

camn · Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:32 pm

I don't even record wins.
Jason gets to record this as dying at my hands once again

The Baltimore Sun · Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:13 am

Day 7, Votecount 2

Deasvail (2) - Benmage, camn
Benmage (1) - Deasvail

Not voting (1) :

camn

DeasVail has been lynched.

The Baltimore Sun · Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:22 am

Well because camn killed ya!

Deasvail -

Wallace

- 1-shot Bodyguard/Daytalk Enabler - aligned with the

Barksdale Organization

was lynched Day 7.

Benmage took his handcuffs out.

camn -

Donette

- Goon - aligned with the

Barksdale Organization

was endgamed (arrested) Day 7.

Benmage -

Shakima "Kima" Greggs

- Handler - for the

PO-lice

survived and won Day 7!

The

PO-lice

Faction have fullfilled their win condition and won the game.

Winners

TheGreatestAmericanHero -

Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins

- 2-shot Modified Rolecop and traitor to the

PO-lice

won the game!
absta101 -

Lester Freamon

- Even Night Tracker for the

PO-lice

won the game!
JasonT1981 -

Jimmy McNulty

- Informed Officer - for the

PO-lice

won the game!
Benmage -

Shakima "Kima" Greggs

- Handler - for the

PO-lice

survived and won the game!
Nostredeus -

Omar Little

- Lyncher who was

Self Aligned

won the game on Day 3!

The Baltimore Sun · Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:40 am

Role Pm's - Barksale Organization

Spoiler: Vig

Spoiler: JOAT

Spoiler: Friendly Neighbour

Spoiler: 1-shot Kill Immune

Spoiler: Neighbouriser

[spoiler="Expensive Doc]

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, Baby Spice. You are
Maurice Levy
, Expensive Doctor and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization
.

Keeping these assholes out of jail is a full time job; I'm surprised you have time for any non-Barksdale cases. Of course, you're more than happy to represent them when they're paying you for the privilege. Besides, they're innocent until proven guilty. Your clients are just the victims because the police are looking for someone to blame. This harassment is really something you must look into; the Baltimore Police Department can't think they're above the law.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

(A)
Defence Attorney
- Each night, you may PM me the name of a player other than yourself. You will protect them from all kill attempts that night. However, since your clients can only afford to hire you once,
you may only protect each player slot in the game once
. (For example, if you protect Faraday night 1, you cannot protect him again for the rest of the game.)

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

[/spoiler]

Spoiler: Daytalker Enabler/BG

Spoiler: 7 x goons

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, ChannelDelibird. You are
Marquis "Bird" Hilton
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization
.

Fucking shit cunt bitch. Them fucking police step at you and you'll smack 'em down. Maybe fuck their bitches in all three holes after you done, too.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, Vifam. You are
Savino Bratton
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization

You remember the look on that prosecutor's face the day D'Angelo got off. A bunch of boys from West Baltimore came into his courtroom and beat a fuckin' murder rap. You're loyal, and you're a damn good enforcer even if you're not always up for getting your hands dirty. Who needs to if someone else can, anyway?

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, Shadoweh. You are
Rico
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization
.

You don't want any trouble. You're just making sure nobody who shouldn't comes into the funeral home. Then you go and get held up by some dumb fuck. Shit, can't a man deal drugs honestly now?

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, Ser Arthur Dayne. You are
D'Angelo Barksdale
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization

Man, you tired of feeling like a screw up. You done everything that ever been asked of you, and the thanks you get? You get stuck in The Pit? Fuck that. Fuck anyone who thinks you deserve it. Man, they didn't have to kill him, though. The Judge threw the case out. What was William Gant gonna do, testify again? Send a message? What about his family? Maybe you should say something...maybe not. Keep your head down, and you might be back in the Tower in no time.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

]

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, Plessiezarus. You are
Wintell "Little Man" Royce
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization
.

You'll fuck up anyone who gets in your shit. You're a damn enforcer. Nobody better step up to you or they'll get their ass beat down. Or worse.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, camn. You are
Donette
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization
.

You don't give a damn what them drug dealers be doing as long as you getting a cut of it. You got a baby to raise, and that takes a lot of money that you damn sure don't have. As well as that, you gotta live in a nice 'hood and dress well. Money don't grow on trees, so what it matter how a man (or woman?) earns it?

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, sottyrulez. You are
Anton "Stinkum" Artis
, Goon and aligned with the
Barksdale Organization
.

Man, you believe it? Lieutenant now. Shit, that's gonna mean more cash for you. Gotta be careful, though. Don't wanna give the police a chance to bust your ass and throw it in jail. Still, you hear there's a territory gonna be yours soon. More responsibility is good--it means more money, man.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Barksdale Organization have been eliminated and at least 1 member of said organization is alive.

LYNCHER

Spoiler:

Spoiler: Lyncher Fake Claim

POLICE:

Spoiler: Handler

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, Benmage. You are
Shakima "Kima" Greggs
, Handler for the
PO-lice

Shit, girl. Daniels is working you harder than those girls down the docks work to pay the bills. These fucking Barksdale boys ain't easy to track down. Between them and all the other scum polluting the street, your detail is undermanned and damn sure not trained for this. Maybe Bubbles can help. He knows everything that goes down on the West Side. Surely he'd have heard about anything that's happening. For once, this detail might
actually
achieve something.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

(F)
Shitbird detail
- You may talk to your fellow Officers, Jimmy McNulty (jasonT1981) and Lester Freamon (absta101), here at all times (at least for now).

(F)
On orders from Daniels
- Your faction may eliminate someone from the game each night. One of your Officers must be selected to 'Arrest' someone. If your action is successful, the person will be removed from the game (as with a regular nightkill). Your kill flavour is 'Arrested'.

(F)
Get Bunk on the case
- Your faction has a 1-shot "Detain" ability. During
one
day phase, one of you may PM me to choose a player to lock up. A mod scene will announce that your target has been detained by the PO-lice. This will jailkeep them for that night, preventing them from being killed, but also preventing them from taking any actions. You may not jailkeep a member of your own faction.

(P)
Borrowing my disguise from Sydnor
- You know that Perry is not in the game. You may request a fakeclaim at any point, and I will send you a sample PM for any character/role you wish. A Fake 'Goon' PM is attached for your convenience.

(P)
Police Informant
- You know that you have a traitor in the game, Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins. You do not know his identity, although he knows all of you. Should he be targeted for a nightkill, he will be recruited into your faction.

(P)
From Bubbles with Love
- You know that Bubbles has a two-shot modified rolecop that can only detect active abilities. (For example, the result of an investigation on Lester Freamon would be "absta101 is an Even-Night Tracker," while an investigation on you would be "Benmage has no active abilities.") You and Bubbles will both receive his investigation results by PM. In the morning scene, I will announce the player investigated is wearing a
Red Hat
. I will not elaborate on what this does, but the player will also receive a PM telling them how nice their red hat looks.

Win Condition:
You win when you the
PO-lice
makes up at least half of the game and nothing can prevent that from changing.

Spoiler:

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, jasonT1981. You are
Jimmy McNulty
, Informed Officer for the
PO-lice

McNulty? Come see me in my office right now. What the
fuck
are you doing, going to Judge Phelan behind my back? You think you're hot shit, huh, McNulty? Bet you think I'm some stuck up Major.
Oh, Rawls can go fuck himself. I do real police work.
Is that it, McNulty? If you ever so much as fucking think about going around the chain of command again I'll have you bumped down to cleaning shit out of boats before you can so much as blink. You've got your detail. Go show the world what real
PO-lice
do, McNulty. Go catch me some fucking drug dealers.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

(F)
Shitbird Detail
- You may talk to your fellow Officers, Shakima "Kima" Greggs (Benmage) and Lester Freamon (absta101), here at all times (at least for now).

(F)
On orders from Daniels
- Your faction may eliminate someone from the game each night. One of your Officers must be selected to "Arrest" someone. If your action is successful, the person will be removed from the game (as with a regular nightkill). Your kill flavour is 'Arrested'.

(F)
Get Bunk on the case
- Your faction has a 1-shot "Detain" ability. During
one
day phase, one of you may PM me to choose a player to lock up. A mod scene will announce that your target has been detained by the PO-lice. This will jailkeep them for that night, preventing them from being killed, but also preventing them from taking any actions. You may not jailkeep a member of your own faction.

(P)
Borrowing my disguise from Sydnor
- You know that Brianna Barksdale is not in the game. You may request a fakeclaim at any point, and I will send you a sample PM for any character/role you wish. A Fake 'Goon' PM is attached for your convenience.

(P)
Where the fuck is Wallace?
- You know that Wallace (DeasVail) is a member of the Barksdale Organization. He is also a daytalk enabler. While he lives, your faction may use the QT at all times; however, should he die, you will be restricted to using it during night phases.

Win Condition:
You win when you the
PO-lice
make up at least half of the game and nothing can prevent that from changing.

Spoiler: Tracker

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, absta101. You are
Lester Freamon
, Even-Night Tracker for the
PO-lice

It's about goddamn time
. This right here? This is REAL PO-LICE work. Not jacking off in the pawnshop unit for the past twenty years. Fuck that politics bullshit. Looks like they forgot, or forgave, and it's not a day too soon. Finally, a challenge. Barksdale and his boys know what they're doing. Stringer Bell is smart, too -- they're well schooled. These guys don't make many mistakes. But you'll wait patiently: they just need to make one.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

(F)
Shitbird Detail
- You may talk to your fellow Officers, Jimmy McNulty (jasonT1981) and Shakima "Kima" Greggs (Benmage), here at all times (at least for now).

(F)
On orders from Daniels
- Your faction may eliminate someone from the game each night. One of your Officers must be selected to 'Arrest' someone. If your action is successful, the person will be removed from the game (as with a regular nightkill). Your kill flavour is 'Arrested'.

(F)
Get Bunk on the case
- Your faction has a 1-shot "Detain" ability. During
one
day phase, one of you may PM me to choose a player to lock up. A mod scene will announce that your target has been detained by the PO-lice. This will jailkeep them for that night, preventing them from being killed, but also preventing them from taking any actions. You may not Jailkeep a member of your own faction.

(P)
Borrowing my disguise from Sydnor
- You know that Malik "Poot" Carr is not in the game. You may request a fakeclaim at any point, and I will send you a sample PM for any character/role you wish. A Fake 'Goon' PM is attached for your convenience.

(A)
Real PO-lice
- On even nights, you may select a player. If nothing interferes with your action, you will see who that player targeted, if anyone. Your results will be in the form of "PlayerX targeted PlayerY," "PlayerX targeted no one," or "No Result" if something should interfere. You may use your factional nightkill and track someone in the same night.

Win Condition:
You win when you the
PO-lice
make up at least half of the game and nothing can prevent that from changing.

Spoiler: Traitor

Welcome to
The Wire, Season 1 Mafia
, TheGreatestAmericanHero. You are
Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins
, 2-Shot Modified Rolecop and Traitor to the
PO-lice

Man, life is tough. Livin' on these streets ain't easy. Especially for you, Bubbles. You always bring trouble even if you a gentle soul. Still, you don't like what the Barksdale Organisation has been doing. The PO-lice never caused you any trouble -- you're willing to help them.

You have the following abilities:

(V)
This America, man
- You may vote as described in the rules.

(P)
Baltimore's Finest
- You know the Baltimore PO-lice are Jimmy McNulty (jasonT1981), Informed Officer; Shakima "Kima" Greggs (Benmage), Handler; and Lester Freamon (absta101), Even-Night Tracker.

(P)
Borrowing my disguise from Sydnor
- You know that Preston "Bodie" Broadus is not in the game. You may request a fakeclaim at any point, and I will send you a sample PM for any character/role you wish. A Fake 'Goon' PM is attached for your convenience.

(P)
Yo, man, it's just a little something
- You know the PO-lice faction have a factional nightkill. If you are targeted by it, you will be recruited into their faction and gain access to their QT.

(A)
From Bubbles with Love
- You have a modified rolecop ability that only works on active abilities. (For example, if you investigated yourself, you'd get, "TheGreatestAmericanHero is a 2-Shot Modified Rolecop". If you investigated a player with only factional and/or passive abilities, you'd get "PlayerX has no active abilities." If something interfered with your action, you'd get "No result.") Two nights in the game, you may attempt to investigate a player (other than yourself). If your action is successful, both you
and
Kima Greggs will be sent their role name. However, in the morning scene, I will announce the player is wearing a
Red Hat
. I will not elaborate on what this does, but the player will also get a PM telling them how nice their red hat looks.

Win Condition:
You win when you the
PO-lice
makes up at least half of the game and nothing can prevent that from changing.

The Safeclaims for the scum aren't listed - the pm's are just generic pms.

The Baltimore Sun · Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:42 am

http://quicktopic.com/50/H/wFqeEZv9vKskS

Dead QT!

The Baltimore Sun · Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:45 am

I'll give thoughts on stuff later - suffice to say I think Benmage played well, despite him maybe not thinking so.

Town did play well but were just unlucky in the end and DV's "weird" claim didn't help.

Faraday · Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:57 am

Thanks to Mina/Av/UT for reviewing and Mina for back-up modding.

Well played Benmage and Nost for the scums - although TGAH set up Jason nicely, I think. On the town side of things eh a lot of people had 1/2 of the scum but no one really "nailed" the whole team late game. Still don't think anyone played badly - Ben just played well and looked genuine in his Ben interaction

Benmage · Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:09 am

Thanks Faraday...

So were you rooting for scum this game?

Explain to me the point of the traitor role?

Oversoul · Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:17 am

I like the ingenuity of Deas's role and Ben's role but I don't think the mafia should have been informed of those specific player identities.

Crumbing the name of the character to each other would have sufficed?

More reason to kill Benmage in LyLo. Isn't this how he won Scummies Winvitational?

Also, what happened with Jason that was so horrible a lot of people are calling for him to be blacklisted?

Zachrulez · Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:19 am

I think it was him getting away with lurking for so long? I don't know...

The only real complaint I have is with Kise's play. I can live with everything else that happened.

Benmage · Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:21 am

In post 3466, Oversoul wrote: Also, what happened with Jason that was so horrible a lot of people are calling for him to be blacklisted?

He did nothing all game but lurk, and go v/la... pathetic for scum.

You need people to CONTRIBUTE to the game to read them... that's the point of this game.. lurking is pathetic.

Konowa · Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:23 am

Waaaaay too much time was spent meta analyzing the traitor role and whether or not it's typical for him to bus. If you had looked at Jason's D1 play aside from our slot's interaction I feel Town should've lynched him.

Had fun telling Dead QT. Thanks for modding Faraday.

Faraday · Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:24 am

In post 3466, Oversoul wrote:I like the ingenuity of Deas's role and Ben's role but I don't think the mafia should have been informed of those specific player identities.

Why not? (Also what player specific identities? Just DV's, presumably - I can't work out what else you're talking about)
DV's bodyguard gave him a chance to die without specifically being the kill AND it meant scum would have a dilemma if DV was owning the game, on whether to kill him and hurt themselves.

Not letting them know just kind of makes it pot luck.

If you mean Ben finding the role cop target...well he'd see the red hat, on the player anyway? (Check the way the rolecop worked) so it makes no practical difference.

Explain to me the point of the traitor role?

To weaken the scumteam slightly. But seeing as his recruitable it's only slightly.

19 players. If the lyncher gets a lynch it's basically a free kill for scum so like 16. 12:4 is "conventionally" balanced - but if you look at the big increase in scum/difficulty to lynch 4 scum from 10:3 then it's weird and I don't think it is particularly balanced.

Town had some protective role - but a) they're all weak, the BP is a lynchee, the doctor's weaker than a regular doc and the BG is 1-shot. (Also, DV your pm wording should make it clear the doctor and you couldn't cross protect, I think.)

Faraday · Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:26 am

(And yes, the red hat flavour would be obviously tied to bubbles for anyone watching the show so by not saying it - it's still obvious)

I really like the setup as a whole and the way it worked, tbh.

Zachrulez · Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:29 am

In post 3469, Konowa wrote:Waaaaay too much time was spent meta analyzing the traitor role and whether or not it's typical for him to bus. If you had looked at Jason's D1 play aside from our slot's interaction I feel Town should've lynched him.

Had fun telling Dead QT. Thanks for modding Faraday.

I feel somewhat guilty for misreading Jason here... but us dying as we wavered on him should have been a clue.

Benmage · Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:30 am

I think the manner of some of the town roles, made them very OBV town roles.. could be a bias stand point..

But

expensive

doc seems obv town. The Neighbor, all the protective roles... if you're looking at a massclaim, there's not a lot of room imo for scum creativity.

Faraday · Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:32 am

If you look at massclaim you guys have the 1-shot dayblock. Also neighbour and JOAT and bulletproof are 3/7 roles that don't give any indication of alignment, here. The friendly neighbour, and the vig were confirmable and the doc too. But DV's role might have helped get him lynched.

Kuribo made his slot unlynchable, you can't play his role for that. He was very town.