Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:11 am

The Normal Game Wiki Page wrote:Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Lyncher, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector,
Framer
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absta101 · Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:12 am

In post 1621, Bacde wrote:yes I am town

That's weird.

Anyway, how many win cons you got?

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:13 am

@Mod: Was this setup created before or after Mafia Framer was blacklisted?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:13 am

Oh, well it was normal. Bacde is claiming a role that I can't lynch. I just can't. Im a sucker for good policy. Did you crumb anywhere bacde?

Hd: weird, we should see when that happened cuz framer was normal when this got revirwed I think. But bacde gets a pass. If he doesn't use tonight or claims block, we lynch

absta101 · Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:14 am

Cuz I got 5

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:16 am

Urg, but this could just be a big gambit. And if bacde is town, hiraki likely scum

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:18 am

Just did some research.

Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:53 pm is when the announcement was made.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:20 am

So,just after this started, lol

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:24 am

yeah basically

so yes, there

may

be framer hax going on

I don't really think so though

absta101 · Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:28 am

Well, don't lynch until I wake up.

absta101 · Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:29 am

unless it's Bacde ofc

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:56 am

In post 1558, Human Destroyer wrote:oh jake is just bad at counting

nevermind

the last vote count on page 61 is correct. 5 people voting with 6 to lynch. 6-5=potato

My maffs r gooder

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:57 am

stop it I'm trying to cover up my own incompetence and you're not helping

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:04 am

In post 1622, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1618, AngryPidgeon wrote:Framer is actually explicitly normal. And hiraki targeted bscde last night
it got blacklisted a week or two ago actually

In post 1627, Human Destroyer wrote:
@Mod: Was this setup created before or after Mafia Framer was blacklisted?

The troll in me wants to point you to the the start date of this game, which was well over "a week or two" but being that i am super nicer, I will say that yes mafia framer was still an acceptable role by normal standards when my game was in the review process.

Edit - lol looks like you figured it out, Guess I should read all the way through next time

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:12 am

Vote Count 3.06

BBMolla -
Hiraki -
Human Destroyer -
Doctor Zoidberg MD -

Bacde - absta101, Dr. Z, IFM, Human Destroyer (L-2)

absta101 - Hiraki, AngryPidgeon (L-4)
SafetyDance -
pirate mollie -
AngryPidgeon -
IFM - BBMolla (L-5)

Not Voting - Bacde, pirate mollie & Safetydance

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-05-06 18:55:00)

BBmolla · Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:14 am

This whole thing SCREAMS framer.

BBmolla · Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:15 am

I thought I was crazy, I was sure Framer was normal but checked the wiki and it wasn't so I didn't bring it up.

BBmolla · Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:16 am

HD is scum right?

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:17 am

In post 1638, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 1622, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1618, AngryPidgeon wrote:Framer is actually explicitly normal. And hiraki targeted bscde last night
it got blacklisted a week or two ago actually

In post 1627, Human Destroyer wrote:
@Mod: Was this setup created before or after Mafia Framer was blacklisted?

The troll in me wants to point you to the the start date of this game, which was well over "a week or two" but being that i am super nicer, I will say that yes mafia framer was still an acceptable role by normal standards when my game was in the review process.

Edit - lol looks like you figured it out, Guess I should read all the way through next time

Oh you.

In post 1642, BBmolla wrote:HD is scum right?

BBmolla · Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:20 am

You seem so mean and aggressive this game

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:22 am

Ok, for fucks sake. Im finally back at an actual PC.

We have 5 PR claims. That is wack. There are not 5 town PRs in this game. Doc/Nurse/Cop/IC/Tracker. I dont see a situation where all of those are town. How are we going to go about climbing Mount Scummore? Easy. Like this.

1) I know that I am town. I am a nurse.

2) Bacde is claiming a provable role. Im going to look back over some ISOs, but basically he can conftown himself tonight. If he doesn't, we lynch him immediately regardless of anything. This could be a gambit to buy him an extra day and knock of another role in the meantime. Possible. I dont like that he is assuming absta is town. Bacde, why did you not claim IC immediately? Why did you not claim when at L - 1 before I came in? Did you crumb at all. Also, if we leave you alive today you are using your role. If you are not moderator confirmed town by Tomorrow, you self vote. No RB claims, no anything.

3) Absta "Im a cop you idiot" 102. Absta/Hiraki team? I was about to talk about Hiraki's claim first and how I saw connections that could implicate a Hiraki/Zoid team but that would mean there is a Doc/Nurse/Cop/IC in the game which is crap. Unless Bacde is town and lying, but I tend to doubt that. So Hiraki/Zoid are not a team (unless Bacde is a VT maybe). Hiraki/Absta almost could be...Id buy Doc/Nurse/IC. Absta is acting like a crazy person and that could make sense from him-scum but that is only possible balance wise for Bacde-VT.

4) IFM - if you are town, then I am sorry. But I think you will agree that some shit had to go down, because wtf this game. We dont have 5 town PRs. We probably dont have 4. If IFM is scum, then the setup looks like:
Doc/goon/goon VS Nurse/{IC/Cop/Tracker}. I still kind of doubt that the town has 4 PRs, but if IFM is scum and I dont get to use my role until he flips scum, that paints a large target on my back anyways so my PR is meh.

If IFM is scum, then I tend to doubt that there is another maf pr on top of him (making Hiraki probably town and Bacde scum). And he clearly is a doctor since no one is CCing and Im in the game as a nurse.

5) Hiraki. Hiraki could be scum. Hiraki looks like scum. Why is Hiraki always scum. He feels so town when hes town.

BBmolla, I know right? Absta seems so sure of his shit and his play is pretty bold for scum. If he is town, then I dont think he is shoving an IC claim as a VT. Absta Cop could make sense which means Bacde is scum or Hiraki is scum.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:29 am

In post 1644, BBmolla wrote:You seem so mean and aggressive this game

Implying I'm not usually?

BBmolla · Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:33 am

AP: If there are 4 town PRs I'd expect Doc/Framer/Roleblocker or something akin to that.

Doc/Framer/Roleblocker vs. Nurse/IC/Cop/Tracker seems balanced to me.

FWIW, I believe Hiraki's tracker claim, but I don't know if I actually think he's town yet. Tracker/Framer/Roleblocker vs. Nurse/Doc/IC/Cop makes more sense as a setup than the above.

Human Destroyer · Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:34 am

I'm wary.

Pushing a Framer exists is how scum won Posh Mafia, no?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:35 am

@BBmolla: You do realize that framer WAS explicitly normal when this game got reviewed.

Here is the thing though, I _still_ cant get over that one of absta/IFM is prolly maf.

You do realize that we have already seen a GOON flip, right? There are 2 maf prs max.

P-edit: I was in Posh Mafia. I pushed the framer suspicion. I was wrong.