The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

[Benmage]

+ ben didn't bring up his meta so.

PTW
be a badass
be honorable

That's why I can't accept lurking as a tactic... Although I had moments of lacking content, I obviously had plenty of content throughout the game.. I more beatup myself, because I like to be the ringleader manipulator scum... I couldn't keep it up with the level of skill in the game/the speed/my RL.

[ChannelDelibird]

Though I will say, the Traitor faked hydra dissonance, and both
Jason and Ben used RL excuses!

So did town players, which was the point all along...

[Equinox]

Congratulations on your engagement, Benmage!

Thanks for modding, Faraday. Still think lynchers can die in a fire, but 'twas fun.

[Zachrulez]

We should have lynched the lyncher... but yes... blegh to lynchers.

[camn]

Shoot.. I read more QT

you guys can all yell at me now if you like!
I know my play this game wasn't perfect, but it was intentional.
I was intentionally trying to place myself in the middle of the pack as far as peoples reads go as I wanted to live for once! I think I did my share when it comes to killing scum!
you guys are right I should have done more re reading in LYLO, but the game was just so large.... which is why I should probably stick to minis.
in my defense, I started out totally ready to lynch Ben in Lylo. DV pretty much convinced me he was scum in the last three pages of the game.
I shouldnt have fixated on the claim ad much,too . Plus, Ben did seem very genuine. Maybe I should have let them talk another couple days... But the suspense finally wore me down
maybe I will do better next time.

and I am sorry that I have convinced some of you I am egotistical! Its just a front. I'm actually sweet, and have feelings and everything! I just talk a big game


Oh and the 'tells'?
I only believe that 25%.

[BT]

NSFW

[ActionDan]

NSFW

serves you right for thinking I was scum. I wanted a townie alliance with you and shadoweh.

[BT]

Your "100% benmage is town" line is one of the reasons that made me think he was town. By the way.

[kuribo]

Also, what happened with Jason that was so horrible a lot of people are calling for him to be blacklisted?

my wanting him blacklisted was under the assumption at the time that I thought his town play was so terrible and anti-town that he wasn't even trying


as I pointed out in the dead QT, he actually played (or didn't play) fairly well from a scum point of view to last so long

[kuribo]

Kuribo made his slot unlynchable,

there's a reason I always say that I never get mislynched

[kuribo]

Have I mentioned yet how much I hate Hydras?

And how much I hate them being put into a neighborhood..

COmeon.. 6 PEOPLE I can't manipulate... for shame.

plessie and cerulean were specifically neighborized because they were hydras


had I been in the slot when all of the neighbor slots were open, I'd have neighborized the third hydra for a total of seven people brainstorming

[Zachrulez]

Given how early we died you were probably better off the way it worked out.

[kuribo]

NSFW

serves you right for thinking I was scum. I wanted a townie alliance with you and shadoweh.

do you have any fucking idea how much screaming i had to do to redeem your slot

[kuribo]

Given how early we died you were probably better off the way it worked out.

I probably wouldn't have believed DV's claim had I not been privvy to his neighborhood posting.

I've been scum with DV and he wasn't scum here.

[Benmage]

NSFW

serves you right for thinking I was scum. I wanted a townie alliance with you and shadoweh.

do you have any fucking idea how much screaming i had to do to redeem your slot

A lot! That slot was setup to be lynched!

[Benmage]

Hey, can I see the Expensive Doc night choices... there was a moment I was debating no killing in hopes Kise was protecting me.... I wanna see if the nights were lined up.

[ActionDan]

NSFW

serves you right for thinking I was scum. I wanted a townie alliance with you and shadoweh.

do you have any fucking idea how much screaming i had to do to redeem your slot

It was good that you did. And I thought your targets deserved every bit of it. I'm not 100% sure it was going to be lynched though.

@BT. Oops. A misread on my part. I didn't think scum benmage would give shadoweh as much leeway as he did (and he certainly wasn't showing any such to me later) but after shadoweh died instead of camn I thought it had something to do with Shadoweh having additional suspicion on another scum member besides absta. I was thinking it would turn out to be TML or CDB, but it was benmage after all. Still I was leaning Camn over Benmage in the 3p lylo though.

[kuribo]

Hey, can I see the Expensive Doc night choices... there was a moment I was debating no killing in hopes Kise was protecting me.... I wanna see if the nights were lined up.

see

that actually MAY have gotten me lynched because it sounds like the kinda night shenanigans I pull

[Benmage]

Well that's a significant reason that helped me win scummieswinvintational.. No killed as the final scum the night I was tracked.... So huzzah.

--Shadow was killed N1, because I like to throw people for a loop... I like people unexpected to receive a doc/watcher (obv correct as cerulean was protected)... and again, I needed the vets alive, as I was alive.
-Also shadow was heavily anti abstas... and I didn't expect abstas to be NK'd.

[Tammy]

Congratulations to the scum team! And congratulations on your engagement Benmage!

Benmage you have no idea the amount of time that was spent debating about what to do with you between empire and me. You almost got vigged night three, but we ended up going the conservative route because we decided we were being overly paranoid. And we both decided we'd feel like absolute jerks if we vigged you and you ended up being town. I do wish I had pushed you harder on the things that made me suspicious of you, but I guess I just need to learn to follow my instincts a little better. I think you played a really good strong game overall though.

I was kinda surprised that no one guessed us as being the vig; I always think my crumbs are so obvious. It was a strange balancing act though trying not to give it away that we were. When Kuribo was doing setup spec I wanted to out us so that it would stop being a distraction. And when Dan told me my reads weren't very good, I had to bite my tongue about being right about absta. I almost joined Camn on the absta counterwagon and empire had sent me a message that he wanted to. I ended up not doing it because I was scum reading tgah and didn't want their wagon to fall apart, and I was scum reading absta and had already decided that I was going to push for that to be our night one target. (We briefly discussed vigging CDB or DV as well, but I knew I wanted absta) So glad we did that. Sucks we ended up misvigging twice though, and I wish we would have just vigged Jason or continued going after him but oh well. I really really need to stop second guessing myself as much as I do.

I think it's funny that we were the initial targets the night we had DV BG us though.

ActionDan I really wish you would have posted in the game the way you did in the neighborhood. Your posting there was much more natural and helped me to feel better about that slot overall. But Kuribo was a great replacement and I had fun in the neighborhood.

Camn I did a lot of bitching in the neighborhood but I meant my virtual hug and that we all played a part in the loss. I really am just as hard on myself and the mistakes I made. LyLo sucks.

Thanks to Faraday and Mina for running the game and letting me play, and I had a great time playing with all of you and meeting some of you I haven't played with before.

[ActionDan]

Sorry tammy I got prickly with you D2.

I would like to reiterate that neighborhoods are very useful for all kinds of things. Considering 2 town PRs got to claim to each other proves the point. In fact had DV not been revealed he could have claimed vig for you and he might have got shot instead.

[Empire]

Congrats to the scum team! Benmage played very well (wish you well on your marriage).

Definitely feel like it was a collective failure on our parts. IRL stuff definitely wore on me as the game went on and I think my play's been in a slump (taking a hiatus now to deal with all that + to study for the bar exam after I graduate in May). My gut was screaming at me to vig Benmage N3 but I chickened out. The absta vig was great but I should have been more firm with the townreads I believed in and should have pushed Jason post-D2 a lot harder than I did.

[Empire]

Oh yeah, when we received our role PM, I tried to play with long-term survival as a goal, so I suggested we keep a lot of our reads hidden (I don't believe our absta scumread was ever mentioned once in thread) so we could use all our shots. I actually don't know why people had us as such strong townreads regardless.

[Kise]

Hey, can I see the Expensive Doc night choices... there was a moment I was debating no killing in hopes Kise was protecting me.... I wanna see if the nights were lined up.

Congrats on the win and the engagement ----- Cerulean, Zdenek, kuribo, no one, camn (or I cancelled it, can't remember), no one

[Faraday]

Oh, yeah. PR use is pretty obvious. I mostly have that kind of thing in my head - it's all obvious apart from the JOAT - follow Benmage night 1 (if he'd done the kill the game was over RIGHT THERE) and voyeur nost night 2.