Newbie 1356 (OVER)

[Mutleyddmc]

My cat and dog live together. Does this mean I am a good player now? Or is this a universe where cats dogs live together but I'm still a bad player?

[Varsoon]

Sorry for the delay, IRL work.

I'll do the same thing as last time (in multiple posts, so I don't get caught halfway through this again) concentrating on posts since my last mass read.

DDDP:

In 212 he seems suspiciously evasive in revealing his reasons for his opinions and still seems to expect people to agree with him even though 'Unhelpful answers are no more useful than not answering questions'. This kind of thing has been going on for most of the game:

@DDDP the fact that you're IC doesn't mean we should listen to you without reasoning.

I don't know how serious he was early on, but if he doesn't give some reasoning, I will just ignore his conclusions.

More recently he seems to be working relatively sensibly trying to get varsoon to give out enough information to get him off [L-1], but to be honest this looks incredibly suspicious. The sudden change of topic onto mist, who isn't here to defend herself a lot, looks like it could be scumteam trying to communicate. This sheds new light on '@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?'.

Based on this, I would put forward the idea of DDDP/Varsoon scumteam. Their argument early on could easily be read as bussing, which we would expect from an experienced scum. However, as the day has gone on, varsoon has become more focused by others and began panicking. DDDP attempted a hint in 140 and 270 on how to proceed, but as the situation went from bad to worse, he has been forced to go all out and suggest an alternative lynch directly to varsoon. However Varsoon has continued to bus DDDP, forcing DDDP to back off and demand proof from him.

Although this argument makes sense to me, I would like someone elses take on it as well, as I'm obviously a bit biased towards myself.

More ideas soon, along with overall townlist and scumlist at the end.

Yeah, too bad that theory only works if I'm scum.

DDDP, though, he can be scum. I'm not.

[freezing-hell]

My cat and dog live together. Does this mean I am a good player now? Or is this a universe where cats dogs live together but I'm still a bad player?

Why are you so reluctant to vote for Varsoon?

[Mutleyddmc]

My cat and dog live together. Does this mean I am a good player now? Or is this a universe where cats dogs live together but I'm still a bad player?

Why are you so reluctant to vote for Varsoon?

I said much earlier that I wouldn't want him lynched day 1. However would be happy to vote him in other days. That has changed slightly. I am not as reluctant now. You are still my number 1 target so my vote lies with you and will do for a while yet.

[freezing-hell]

I wouldn't want him lynched day 1

That's what I actually meant, but chose my words poorly. Why are/were you so reluctant to lynch him day 1? Was it because of a specific reason or simply that there is someone else ( me, as you've stated a few times) that looks scummier?

[Mist7676]

UGGH I have been ignoring this thread for awhile.

Well, I see Varsoon as town/scum (bold one) because _______

I want everyone to make one of these, especially if you are currently voting, are intent to hammer. It would be nice, to see how people saw him, if we do have a flip.

Well, I see Varsoon as

town

/scum (bold one) mostly gut reads, but his posts, just don't jump off the me as scum. Freezing Hell's do. I feel he posts a lot of questions and accuses a lot of people. This, to me, sounds like scum grasping for straws. He wants to look like participating town. Plus, I know someone on the Varsoon wagon has to be scum.

Vote: Freezing

[Mist7676]

Thanks to Mutley, we have 3 more pages of actual content.
If you don't think that his posts, in some way, have moved this game forward,
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I could post "banana banana banana" for three straight pages but that wouldn't help the game state and in fact might irritate people into lynching me which would be a net negative.

~~

@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: shaboostein

DDD, this post irks me, and your recent ones. This looks like you wanted to prepare the town for this vote. Or at least have a case to fall back on. That you planned to have this vote before.

[Varsoon]

Woah, Mist, I like this idea.


Well, I see Varsoon as

town

/scum (bold one) because my role PM says it.

[freezing-hell]

It would be nice, to see how people saw him, if we do have a flip.

You can just look back at the posts. You'll likely do that anyway. Kinda pointless.

[Mist7676]

It would be nice, to see how people saw him, if we do have a flip.

You can just look back at the posts. You'll likely do that anyway. Kinda pointless.

but wouldn't it be nice if everyone had it in a clear concise way?

[Varsoon]

It would be nice, to see how people saw him, if we do have a flip.

You can just look back at the posts. You'll likely do that anyway. Kinda pointless.

C'mon, FH, just play along.

[freezing-hell]

I feel he posts a lot of questions and

accuses a lot of people

.

You need to read me again because this is absolutely wrong.

[Mist7676]

But I <3ed Shaboostein

I H8 U MESSIAH WHY U REPLACE MY FIRE EMBLEM BFF

You need to start scumhunting.

You should sleep with one eye open tonight RC.

This kind of shit will get you Policy lynched. You shouldn't ever do that. There is no point in confusing town about your alignment. Noticed from my skim through that you stopped it though, after people were pushing for a PL. Not sure if that's survivalistic or trying to actually become pro-town.

What's your opinion about mist?

Who do you want to lynch the most, and who the least?

@Dexter,mist,zoggoth: Wanna lynch Varsoon?

Why not lynch Shaboo?

My cat and dog live together. Does this mean I am a good player now? Or is this a universe where cats dogs live together but I'm still a bad player?

Why are you so reluctant to vote for Varsoon?

I wouldn't want him lynched day 1

That's what I actually meant, but chose my words poorly. Why are/were you so reluctant to lynch him day 1? Was it because of a specific reason or simply that there is someone else ( me, as you've stated a few times) that looks scummier?

*sigh* by accuses a lot of people I meant, making jabs at people. Like in the first few quotes. And the asking questions is the last ones. Which are your most recent posts. I may have gotten the making jabs at people because most of your opening posts were made of that, and that was my first impression of you.

[freezing-hell]

Okay......... i'm not seeing how that's scummy.

[Paid Pyro]

Acknowledging prod!

Hey guys m back. Mist, I think Varsoon is scum read my post #156. I haven't seen anything different, which would change my opinion.

Those who aren't voting, why?

[freezing-hell]

I think Varsoon is scum for the points and questions(and lack of answers) I raised:
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[freezing-hell]

Oh - and PP's case I found quite compelling as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm back, and still fully in support of the Varsoon wagon upon which my vote stands.

[Varsoon]

Cool.

Can someone lynch me so you can shut these idiots up?

[Mutleyddmc]

I wouldn't want him lynched day 1

That's what I actually meant, but chose my words poorly. Why are/were you so reluctant to lynch him day 1? Was it because of a specific reason or simply that there is someone else ( me, as you've stated a few times) that looks scummier?

First it's a combination of always finding someone scummier. When I first said it was mainly due to the fact he sort of helped me not get lynched therefore felt I owe him a little. However since then he has slowly got more scummy (I had suspicions of him when I said I wouldn't vote him but not as much as I do now)

RC as helpful and explanation as ever

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Thanks to Mutley, we have 3 more pages of actual content.
If you don't think that his posts, in some way, have moved this game forward,
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I could post "banana banana banana" for three straight pages but that wouldn't help the game state and in fact might irritate people into lynching me which would be a net negative.

~~

@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?

~~

UNVOTE:
VOTE: shaboostein

DDD, this post irks me, and your recent ones. This looks like you wanted to prepare the town for this vote. Or at least have a case to fall back on. That you planned to have this vote before.

Well, yes, I was setting the stage for a vote but clearly not for this vote. Frankly I don't understand why you're claiming it's irksome, if you've got a bothersome instinct why not scratch it if it costs you nothing to do so?

Cool.

Can someone lynch me so you can shut these idiots up?

If you're so eager for death you can pull a Mutley and vote for yourself you know. Otherwise you're just posturing.

[Varsoon]

DDDP, feel free to go look at my Micro 158. I'm in what I feel is essentially the same boat. I'm town and no one gives a damn about who I think is scum.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

DDDP, feel free to go look at my Micro 158. I'm in what I feel is essentially the same boat. I'm town and no one gives a damn about who I think is scum.

A) Don't talk about ongoing games even if you're dead.
B) If you want to be hammered as you claim you can do it yourself why ask others to do it unless it's an appeal to emotion designed to increase your survival.
C) Instead of whine about it, do something about it.

[freezing-hell]

Nothing is stopping you from making a case for who you think is scummy. Try to convince us.

[Mutleyddmc]

I have the real urge to hammer.