Micro 152 - BSG Mafia (Galactica Survives?)

[buldermar]

Actually, popcorn pitoli. I don't need buldermar's claim

Good thing I waited.

[buldermar]

Pitoli i also want you to T->S

Same goes for SD.

You should do this too.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

So I assume you would be pushing Mala today?

Explain to me your read on Pitoli.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Actually, you know what, we already won this game. I don't need you to answer that question.

The scum team is Buldermar and pitoli.

I am a rolecop

, and Buldermar is a

1-shot ninja

. Yeah, I didn't know what that was until yesterday either.

I would like to apologize for my anti-town play yesterday. My reasoning was that as long as I played myself to be bad enough to be not night killed, I would be able to enter lylo with two conftowns (myself and my investigative target). I did breadcrumb my role and ill go fish it up right now. This is also why I backed off fery after she claimed--I wanted to use my night action on her.

Mala is confirmed town right now because of her placing on Buldermar's list and for her outburst yesterday. SD/Buldermar doesn't make a lick of sense given their behavior. And I've been letting pitoli off with too much slack for being new.

VOTE: Buldermar

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I don't know what I think of fery's role right now. I'll figure it out later.

I know it seems weak but when you realize just how forced "role" is in this sentence (over "alignment"), the crumb becomes irrefutable.

My n1 target was safety dance, which was why I came out of the gate with that neighbor business so hard.

Pitoli is most definitely buldermar's partner. The interaction between SD and buld is far too hard to fake.

At 3p lylo, SD and Mala should be voting pitoli. Quicklynch her ass.

[buldermar]

That's a well thought out gambit. I'll look for flaws in it if people actually think you're telling the truth and wants me to show that you're not.

Anyway, VOTE: orcinus_theorinigal

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah, you played well as scum tbh. I wouldn't have caught you through scum hunting alone.

You should self vote later to end the day early.

SD/Mala sheeeeeep

[buldermar]

I don't know what I think of fery's role right now. I'll figure it out later.

I know it seems weak but when you realize just how forced "role" is in this sentence (over "alignment"), the crumb becomes irrefutable.

My n1 target was safety dance, which was why I came out of the gate with that neighbor business so hard.

Pitoli is most definitely buldermar's partner. The interaction between SD and buld is far too hard to fake.

At 3p lylo, SD and Mala should be voting pitoli. Quicklynch her ass.

The crumb just means you've been planning to do a gambit since the start of the game - if it even is a crumb, that is.

[buldermar]

Yeah, you played well as scum tbh. I wouldn't have caught you through scum hunting alone.

You should self vote later to end the day early.

SD/Mala sheeeeeep

There is no point in discussing with you because I already know for a fact that you are scum - any discussion will just mud the waters.

I may look into who your partner is later.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh and jsyk I was right about Nero being your nightkill.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh and jsyk I was right about Nero being your nightkill.

[buldermar]

Having just read on mafia wiki about the role, I can see why you'd claim I'm a ninja specifically. Firstly, that role is almost always scum aligned, meaning that there wouldn't be room for any WIFOM if people buy your gambit. Secondly, it's a role that fits into Syr's flip. Thirdly, you can get away with "only" claiming a role cop (as opposed to the perhaps stronger role "cop"). Clever.

fwiw I'm VT, but that's really irrelevant now.

[buldermar]

Oh and jsyk I was right about Nero being your nightkill.

Now I get it. I was wondering why you'd insist that I was responsible for the nightkill of Nero only to suddently push someone else, but you were obviously setting up this gambit of yours. Did you decide to claim a role cop specifically before or after you saw Syr's flip?

[buldermar]

VT, popcorn buldermar

I just realized something. From your perspective, if you were actually town, you wouldn't know for sure if me being ninja would be scum-aligned or town-aligned. Therefore, you'd ALWAYS wait for me to claim as by having me claim anything but ninja would mean for sure that I'm confirmed scum to you whereas by having me claim ninja would strongly suggest that I'm town despite your result. Since you already know for a fact that I'm town, and that I'm not a ninja, you didn't think of allowing me to prove myself scum to you by claiming something other than ninja, because you already have the information you would have gained by doing so by virtue of being scum. Nice try, though.

[buldermar]

"despite your result" should be "by virtue of your result".

[buldermar]

If you want to dig your own grave, do explain why town-you wouldn't wait for me to claim to confirm whether I'm scum-aligned or town-aligned.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yes because ninja can be a town-aligned role.

I decided that I knew enough to make a judgement already without needing you to claim. Originally I wanted you to claim to see who you would popcorn, but I realized that it was redundant with the T->S list.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

(just to make that clear, ninjas can't be town aligned. I checked.)

[buldermar]

Yes because ninja can be a town-aligned role.

I decided that I knew enough to make a judgement already without needing you to claim. Originally I wanted you to claim to see who you would popcorn, but I realized that it was redundant with the T->S list.

Exactly because

it can be town-aligned you would have waited to see if I claimed ninja or something else had you actually been town.

You didn't "decide you knew enough to make a judgement already", because you didn't "know enough" to make that judgement at the time you decided to make it if you were actually town. You made an unfortunate slip in forgetting that you as town couldn't know which alignment I belong to and thus would have waited to get confirmation. But you didn't.

[buldermar]

(just to make that clear, ninjas can't be town aligned. I checked.)

Are you really going to pretend to not know that ninja's can be town aligned when you've just in your prior post indirectly showed that you

are

aware they ninja's can be town aligned?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

That was sarcasm. It was obvious enough for anyone other than you.

[buldermar]

It says on the MafiaWiki that ninja's can be town aligned. You claimed to not know about the role before your supposed role investigation. So where exactly did you read about it, seing that it couldn't have been on the MafiaWiki? You're so full of shit, lol

[buldermar]

That was sarcasm. It was obvious enough for anyone other than you.

"Originally I wanted you to claim to see who you would popcorn, but I realized that it was redundant with the T->S list."

Was this really sarcasm?

[buldermar]

And are you really going to make personal attacks just because your gambit didn't work out as you hoped for? That's low.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

That was sarcasm. It was obvious enough for anyone other than you.

"Originally I wanted you to claim to see who you would popcorn, but I realized that it was redundant with the T->S list."

Was this really sarcasm?

Oh, not that.

Yes because ninja can be a town-aligned role.

This was sarcasm.

Oh no, I'm not making personal attacks. I'm just saying that you would question it because you're, y'know, scum.

It says on the MafiaWiki that ninja's can be town aligned. You claimed to not know about the role before your supposed role investigation. So where exactly did you read about it, seing that it couldn't have been on the MafiaWiki? You're so full of shit, lol

Ninjas are a

killing

role.

Anyways

Ninja is not necessarily aligned against the Town, but that's what happens in practice.
Alignment:
Anti-Town

And the person I asked about ninjas said she never saw a town-aligned ninja, ever.

So uh yeah. bye