Or maybe things are really simple and you just don't want Mala to possibly claim a PR now.In post 1423, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Mala claims at 3p lylo. I'm not explaining squat to scum.
You go today, Pitoli tomorrow.
Byebye, see you in postgame.
Pedit: Yeah but 1). I actually have the game figured out and 2). I'm not scum
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OR I don't want scum to be getting unnecessary informationIn post 1425, buldermar wrote:Or maybe things are really simple and you just don't want Mala to possibly claim a PR now.In post 1423, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Mala claims at 3p lylo. I'm not explaining squat to scum.
You go today, Pitoli tomorrow.
Byebye, see you in postgame.
Pedit: Yeah but 1). I actually have the game figured out and 2). I'm not scum
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
This discussion is futile.In post 1426, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:OR I don't want scum to be getting unnecessary informationIn post 1425, buldermar wrote:Or maybe things are really simple and you just don't want Mala to possibly claim a PR now.In post 1423, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Mala claims at 3p lylo. I'm not explaining squat to scum.
You go today, Pitoli tomorrow.
Byebye, see you in postgame.
Pedit: Yeah but 1). I actually have the game figured out and 2). I'm not scum
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Sorry, didn't realise that was a mystery to everyone.In post 1415, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:That being said, why exactly are you claiming VT when your role is actually a neighbor?
I'm a VT Neighbor (like Nero was a Miller Neighbor).
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Um. Yes. Big problem here. She should. Your scum cc even gave the reason for it:In post 1417, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also: I do NOT want mala to claim.
You deprived us of everyone claiming, you deprived the town of seeing bulder claim VT, you deprived us of seeing all PR claims and letting us all figure out ourselves which role claims were right without any noise. You destroyed any chance of that with the only reason being your ego. How the fuck should we accept that?In post 1388, buldermar wrote:I just realized something. From your perspective, if you were actually town, you wouldn't know for sure if me being ninja would be scum-aligned or town-aligned. Therefore, you'd ALWAYS wait for me to claim as by having me claim anything but ninja would mean for sure that I'm confirmed scum to you whereas by having me claim ninja would strongly suggest that I'm town despite your result. Since you already know for a fact that I'm town, and that I'm not a ninja, you didn't think of allowing me to prove myself scum to you by claiming something other than ninja, because you already have the information you would have gained by doing so by virtue of being scum. Nice try, though.In post 1367, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VT, popcorn buldermar
Why is Mala clear? She's not. She could be your partner, you've given no reason as to why you've completely backflipped there, in
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We have over a week to process information yet you are trying to get us to rush this. And why can't Mala be Bulder's partner?In post 1381, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: SD/Mala sheeeeeep
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Or he could just an egotistical twat who's letting a result get to his head and affect his brain function, that's what I have to figure out and decide. You yourself give off the impression that you're resigned, defeated, why else but because you're caught scum? I'd expect an experienced player to start fighting a bit more against the claim.In post 1418, buldermar wrote:Where did I appeal to emotion?In post 1413, SafetyDance wrote:Bulder, apart from your AtE, is there anything specific you want us to read that proves your town?
Aside from my role PM I don't think there is anything that definitely proves that I'm town. Post 1388 is important. If you understand it, you'll know that orc must be scum and that I must be town as a consequence of him being scum.
ATE? Let's see:
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Also in that post:In post 1379, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I know it seems weak but when you realize just how forced "role" is in this sentence (over "alignment"), the crumb becomes irrefutable.In post 370, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
I don't know what I think of fery's role right now. I'll figure it out later.
Laura Roslin, with a PR, is bullshit? Explain.In post 370, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Personally I think my own flavor is bullshit so I won't call fery out on it
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In post 1379, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: My n1 target was safety dance, which was why I came out of the gate with that neighbor business so hard.
Except...In post 1415, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: No I did not have any further crumbs, but the speed at which I came out with you being a neighbor should be definitive.
Spoiler: Lurker figured it out.
Spoiler: So did Mala
Spoiler: She mentioned it again
So it was hardly something new, in fact Pitoli was there too talking so it was the current topic of conversation.
THEN
you arrive with:
And after that:
So it wasn't a random point brought up by you and "out of the gate", well #928 is completely at odds with someone who you are only meant to know the role of. If Fery was wrong, that would mean I'm town, because she had a scum read on me, not a role read. Yet if did have a town read, you had/have no problem with voting me or considering I'm scum. See: #1085 #1157 #1313 #1324 #1415.In post 930, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Yeah I'm pretty sure SD is the other neighbor.
We're lynching between the follow people today
Pitoli, Lurker, Buldermar
Thanks
So it doesn't add up.
I already pointed this out to Syryana, so it should come as no surprise my position on it
Spoiler:
So considering the situation we are in, considering that (Syr's) post was made towards the end of day 2, it could look like this is where you get the idea that you came out of the blocks with the breadcrumbed info about finding out i'm the neighbor.
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Hang on, look at this:
In post 1172, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Well that first point is pretty bullshit. There's no point keeping a suicidal player in town, no matter how good a scumhunter, she was basically pushed to the point of so much frustration. I also felt that town was getting far too bogged up towards her.In post 1170, Syryana wrote:My point was fery wouldn't have hammered herself if you hadn't put her at L-1. But anyways.
So, what did you think of my case against pitoli?means that something is off (and on that note it sort of clears me as scum because there isn't a single reason why I wouldn't have pushed for a fery lynch). It's okay, she's learned not to do that anymore.The fact that BOTH wagons yesterday were on town
That's fferyllt and I. This is a slip? There's no way you know we're both town unless you are scum. As per above post, there's no way you'd push someone as scum if you did think they were town.In post 803, AngryPidgeon wrote:
FOR THE RECORD FFERLLY, 75% CHANCE OF DOUBLE-SCUM ON YOUR WAGON. GOOD JOB THERE!
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DA FUCK?!In post 1399, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:And the person I asked about ninjas said shenever saw a town-aligned ninja, ever.
Tell me you didn't just lose the game for town by breaking Posting and Communicating Rule 5? (
question directed at AP, not you
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I don't throw my vote around in lylo, especially so since I'm not actually scum.
Frankly, considering that we had a town-suicider, two town-aligned trolls and a slot-flaking all on day one then its no wonder we are here in day 3 and I don't really expect or have high hopes that we'll lynch correct so I'm not going to be that fussed if I mis-lynch because I didn't believe town.
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Frankly, considering that we had a town-suicider, two town-aligned trolls and a slot-flaking all on day one then its no wonder we are here in day 3 and I don't really expect or have high hopes that we'll lynch correct so I'm not going to be that fussed if I mis-lynch because I didn't believe town.
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making the effort to try and crack this, I'll post my thoughts, ask questions, give my reasons but it's not me who's going to lose sleep if the town-player between you two can't convince the rest of us of your actions and motives are pure.Yes, you essentially nailed it.In post 1431, SafetyDance wrote:Or he could just an egotistical twat who's letting a result get to his head and affect his brain function, that's what I have to figure out and decide. You yourself give off the impression that you're resigned, defeated, why else but because you're caught scum? I'd expect an experienced player to start fighting a bit more against the claim.
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These are not appeals to emotion, lol. I think you don't actually understand what an appeal to emotion is, but I don't think it's relevant anyway.
If you do want to have this discussion, please explain to me why you disagree with the definition of Appeal to emotion provided by wikipedia.org:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
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To my understanding he merely asked how frequently someone encountered town-aligned ninjas in her play, with no reference to this specific game.In post 1435, SafetyDance wrote:DA FUCK?!In post 1399, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:And the person I asked about ninjas said shenever saw a town-aligned ninja, ever.
Tell me you didn't just lose the game for town by breaking Posting and Communicating Rule 5? (question directed at AP, not you)
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orc is scum with mala or pitoli, and atm I'm thinking pitoli since he'd want to act as if he's lining up lynches now so that if he gets lynched, his partner was the hypothetical lynch of the subsequent day and would thus be considered conftown by virtue of his flip.
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Mala is 100% clear at this point in time. Buldermar wanted to lynch her first, and there's no point in scum bussing at 5p lylo. There really isn't. Plus, her outburst yesterday was very town.In post 1429, SafetyDance wrote:Um. Yes. Big problem here. She should. Your scum cc even gave the reason for it:In post 1417, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also: I do NOT want mala to claim.You deprived us of everyone claiming, you deprived the town of seeing bulder claim VT, you deprived us of seeing all PR claims and letting us all figure out ourselves which role claims were right without any noise. You destroyed any chance of that with the only reason being your ego. How the fuck should we accept that?In post 1388, buldermar wrote:I just realized something. From your perspective, if you were actually town, you wouldn't know for sure if me being ninja would be scum-aligned or town-aligned. Therefore, you'd ALWAYS wait for me to claim as by having me claim anything but ninja would mean for sure that I'm confirmed scum to you whereas by having me claim ninja would strongly suggest that I'm town despite your result. Since you already know for a fact that I'm town, and that I'm not a ninja, you didn't think of allowing me to prove myself scum to you by claiming something other than ninja, because you already have the information you would have gained by doing so by virtue of being scum. Nice try, though.In post 1367, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VT, popcorn buldermar
Why is Mala clear? She's not. She could be your partner, you've given no reason as to why you've completely backflipped there, inlylo. The only one you're definitely not paired with is Bulder.
Pitoli needs to claim too.
Why does seeing buldermar claim VT even matter? Was I supposed to expect the possibility of seeing him claim town 1-shot ninja? My night result was effectively a scum investigative result. He even claimed VT later, if it matters that much to you.
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Oh and I forgot this in the last post--Buldermar is confscum to me right now, so I don't want anyone else to claim. That would just be giving unnecessary information to Buldermar to influence his night actionIn post 1430, SafetyDance wrote:We have over a week to process information yet you are trying to get us to rush this. And why can't Mala be Bulder's partner?In post 1381, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: SD/Mala sheeeeeep
I am trying to rush this. Because I know who's scum in this game and my goal right now is to make that lynch happen before you all drink too much of Buldermar's soup.
I addressed why Mala can't be Buld's partner. Two very simply points--outburst yesterday and interaction with BUldermar. If you need more, ask.
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Obviously it was a lie? idk?In post 1432, SafetyDance wrote:Also in that post:In post 1379, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I know it seems weak but when you realize just how forced "role" is in this sentence (over "alignment"), the crumb becomes irrefutable.In post 370, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
I don't know what I think of fery's role right now. I'll figure it out later.Laura Roslin, with a PR, is bullshit? Explain.In post 370, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Personally I think my own flavor is bullshit so I won't call fery out on it
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I thought you were town on day 2 by virtue of your neighbor result. And then I realized that you could be scum neighbor, and that I was still working on your flavor being Zoe Graystone. So yeah, I had you as a weird read.In post 1434, SafetyDance wrote:Hang on, look at this:
In post 1172, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Well that first point is pretty bullshit. There's no point keeping a suicidal player in town, no matter how good a scumhunter, she was basically pushed to the point of so much frustration. I also felt that town was getting far too bogged up towards her.In post 1170, Syryana wrote:My point was fery wouldn't have hammered herself if you hadn't put her at L-1. But anyways.
So, what did you think of my case against pitoli?means that something is off (and on that note it sort of clears me as scum because there isn't a single reason why I wouldn't have pushed for a fery lynch). It's okay, she's learned not to do that anymore.The fact that BOTH wagons yesterday were on townThat's fferyllt and I. This is a slip? There's no way you know we're both town unless you are scum. As per above post, there's no way you'd push someone as scum if you did think they were town.In post 803, AngryPidgeon wrote:
FOR THE RECORD FFERLLY, 75% CHANCE OF DOUBLE-SCUM ON YOUR WAGON. GOOD JOB THERE!
And I wasn't paying attention at all.
Sure, view that as a scum slip.
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But then by that same logic, you just scumslipped in this post too by saying that if I get modkilled, I would get lose the game for town. Thus implying that you know that I'm town, and that you're scum.In post 1435, SafetyDance wrote:DA FUCK?!In post 1399, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:And the person I asked about ninjas said shenever saw a town-aligned ninja, ever.
Tell me you didn't just lose the game for town by breaking Posting and Communicating Rule 5? (question directed at AP, not you)
See how weak that line of reasoning is?
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Hahahahaha WOW fuck you very much.In post 1436, SafetyDance wrote:I don't throw my vote around in lylo, especially so since I'm not actually scum.
Frankly, considering that we had a town-suicider, two town-aligned trolls and a slot-flaking all on day one then its no wonder we are here in day 3 and I don't really expect or have high hopes that we'll lynch correct so I'm not going to be that fussed if I mis-lynch because I didn't believe town.
Iammaking the effort to try and crack this, I'll post my thoughts, ask questions, give my reasons but it's not me who's going to lose sleep if the town-player between you two can't convince the rest of us of your actions and motives are pure.
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I been thinking about how a Miller (town) neighbor, watcher, Role cop could go in a balance structure with ninja which means the other scum member is a normal goon or possibly godfather. We are still unsure if there's another PR in the game.
I have never seen a town-aligned ninja. Please tell me though Buld.. What use would a town aligned ninja be while we have a town watcher?
Wait.. There's none.
Also Pit.. has been around since Day opened. I just checked timestamps and we did get a day on.. so her avoiding posting right now is odd as hell.
VOTE: Buld
I have never seen a town-aligned ninja. Please tell me though Buld.. What use would a town aligned ninja be while we have a town watcher?
Wait.. There's none.
Also Pit.. has been around since Day opened. I just checked timestamps and we did get a day on.. so her avoiding posting right now is odd as hell.
VOTE: Buld
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