Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[Shawn]

Shawn: I'm pretty sure he mentioned that just to teach us about the RVS

He said
'We are now starting the RVS phase'
Not.
'RVS is about .....'

Yeah loads of difference.

So who do you think is scum?

[sycorax]

Hi guys, need to catch up a bit.

Heya Thor.

[sycorax]

Caught up.

VOTE: Shawn

atm shawn looks like scum trying to look super townie. Calling scum because a new player says they are new etc.?

[Shawn]

Caught up.

VOTE: Shawn

atm shawn looks like scum trying to look super townie. Calling scum because a new player says they are new etc.?

Clearly not reading.

I called out Sakura's post because she put emphasis on using the IC.
Not being new.

[Thor665]

We are now starting what is known as the RVS (random voting stage). We are in a low information period because scum already know who they are, and even have a rough idea of what power roles may or may not be in the game. It is now town's job to root them out. Because the start of the game leaves us with no information to start with generally the way to start is to begin voting and questioning other people to see if you can catch them doing something scummy (scummy actions being acts that a scum player is more likely to do then a town player).

Then why did you post this if your vote wasnt a random vote?

Why not say it? I called the stage 'Random voting stage' but if you go to the link i provided it specifically says true random voting is bad.
Also, if you read what I said, nowhere did I say you should vote randomly, I said you should start voting and questioning.
What part is confusing to you?

I thought you said town has no reason to lie? I guess this makes you scum.

Actually I said Vanilla Town shouldn't lie. Do try to read more carefully when making accusations based off what other people are saying. Or are you intentionally trying to misrepresent what I'm saying?

Also - a quick lesson in voting. You're forgetting to close your tags;

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Thor665[/b]
[vote]Thor665[/vote]

[b]Unvote: Thor665[/b]
[unvote]Thor665[/unvote]

Will look like;

Vote: Thor665

VOTE: Thor665

Unvote: Thor665

UNVOTE: Thor665

Make sense?

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Vote: Sakura

@ Mod - Just to be clear I'm not actually moving my vote.

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I unvoted sakura because I dont think she is scum at this point of time.

Why?

[Thor665]

Heya Thor.

Greetings, Mollie told me to 'make it fun for you' or something like that.
I'm planning to just speed lynch you for lulz later.

Why do you think Shawn is scum trying to look town as opposed to hyper nervous new town trying to be town?
I can't get a clear read there, myself.

[Sakura Hana]

Just for clarification, my first post is just to mention im new, but i'm no way using it to justify my actions, my actions may be judged at your discretion.

[Thor665]

I know, that's why I'm voting you.

[Sakura Hana]

Then can you tell me in what way my posts look scummy to you?

[sycorax]

Caught up.

VOTE: Shawn

atm shawn looks like scum trying to look super townie. Calling scum because a new player says they are new etc.?

Clearly not reading.

I called out Sakura's post because she put emphasis on using the IC.
Not being new.

Yeah, because the usual reason for saying they might need help from an IC isn't because they are new? Not to wk Sakura, she could be scummy as a stagnant pond, but atm you look a bit scummier. So it's on you to look more convincingly town.

[sycorax]

I notice several players in this game don't appear to have posted yet. these votes may all be town on town with scum yet to post at all. So I'll try not to get trolley-tracked.

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah, but the fact that thor has mentioned his vote on me isn't random, yet he hasn't provided any evidence as to how i look scum bothers me
UNVOTE: Shawn

FoS: thor

[Thor665]

Yeah, but the fact that thor has mentioned his vote on me isn't random, yet he hasn't provided any evidence as to how i look scum bothers me
UNVOTE: Shawn

FoS: thor

If you're not voting anyone, and I'm the person you find to be scummy, why not just vote me?

[Sakura Hana]

Because im not 100% sure on it, just find you suspicious

[Shawn]

Caught up.

VOTE: Shawn

atm shawn looks like scum trying to look super townie. Calling scum because a new player says they are new etc.?

Clearly not reading.

I called out Sakura's post because she put emphasis on using the IC.
Not being new.

Yeah, because the usual reason for saying they might need help from an IC isn't because they are new? Not to wk Sakura, she could be scummy as a stagnant pond, but atm you look a bit scummier. So it's on you to look more convincingly town.

Its on to you to tell me why Im scum. Why is me attacking Sakura then scummy?

[sycorax]

Heya Thor.

Greetings, Mollie told me to 'make it fun for you' or something like that.
I'm planning to just speed lynch you for lulz later.

Why do you think Shawn is scum trying to look town as opposed to hyper nervous new town trying to be town?
I can't get a clear read there, myself.

Ha, Mollie means three week long day-night cycles tend to make me suicidal, so you need to distract me a bit. Or the speed lynch if it looks like I'm about to haul out the razor blades, that would work.

Re Shawn: You may be right, however his fos of Sakura looked opportunistic to me. It's early, we'll see.

[sycorax]

Shawn, see my post 65.

Ime, scum often pounce on weak looking players: Sakura looked weak, you pounced.

[Shawn]

Shawn, see my post 65.

Ime, scum often pounce on weak looking players: Sakura looked weak, you pounced.

So why didnt I pounce on theirishdude?
What is 'weak' about Sakura's first post?

[Thor665]

Because im not 100% sure on it, just find you suspicious

Do you find anyone to be more suspicious?
If 'no' then why am I not worth voting, if for no other reason then to see how I react or to see who else votes me with you?

[Sakura Hana]

Various reasons:
1. I don't want to risk a BW and some scum quickhammering you.
2. If you aren't scum and get quickhammered then maf gets the upper hand.
3. Your posts are hard to read for me, but i don't see how you out of the blue vote me without posting quotes on how i'm looking scum, if it's not a random vote.
4. Voting you would be an OMGUS vote, wouldn't it?

[sycorax]

Shawn, see my post 65.

Ime, scum often pounce on weak looking players: Sakura looked weak, you pounced.

So why didnt I pounce on theirishdude?
What is 'weak' about Sakura's first post?

Very good question. Why didn't you, since theirishdude said almost exactly the same thing? Why did you pick Sakura over him? It's okay to admit it was a random vote, you know.

Admitting inexperience and saying they will need help is an admission of weakness.

Now, you are asking questions and not offering many answers.

[Thor665]

Various reasons:
1. I don't want to risk a BW and some scum quickhammering you.
2. If you aren't scum and get quickhammered then maf gets the upper hand.
3. Your posts are hard to read for me, but i don't see how you out of the blue vote me without posting quotes on how i'm looking scum, if it's not a random vote.
4. Voting you would be an OMGUS vote, wouldn't it?

1. Even if both you and Shawn are town, that's still going to be hard for scum to pull off at this stage.
2. Well, sort of - of course if I get quickhammered by scum you guys could always, y'know, lynch the scummy looking players who quickhammered me. that seems like a win.
3. I could obviously easily do this, since I have. I don't think anyone is debating that I haven't - and I certainly don't see why that prevents you from voting me.
4. Would it? Also, even if it was, so what? You think I'm the most scummy player here, if you're town it's your job to lynch me, not to try to avoid looking scummy, that's a secondary job (at best).

[Sakura Hana]

I guess you're right
VOTE: thor

[MontyWhittaker]

Thor, I don't like your play at this point. You encourage us not to vote randomly, yet vote Sakura with no explanation? Why is that?

[Thor665]

Thor, I don't like your play at this point. You encourage us not to vote randomly, yet vote Sakura with no explanation? Why is that?

Wow, we're back there again.
I didn't vote her randomly.
No one has been able to show I did.
I specifically said I didn't vote her randomly.
So...?

Unless now we're equating no explanation = random...which is at least a stance.
However, i did give an explanation already, so again...not sure where you're going with this.

Maybe you should clarify what you're saying?