Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[TheIrishPope]

This is why I am not voting yet.
You really are a persistent player, Sakura.

[sycorax]

Sakura, the person who votes first is generally scum. So I do believe he is most likely mafia.

which could easily be a reaction test to get scum/town tells out of me.

I have not known it to be the case that the first voter is more likely scum. If it was I'd expect scum to have figured that out by now.

[TheIrishPope]

YMMV.
Sycorax, why do you defend Sakura with such glee?

[Sakura Hana]

What does YMMV mean?

[sycorax]

YMMV.
Sycorax, why do you defend Sakura with such glee?

I'm not defending Sakura, though my statement might appear to have that effect. It does players a disfavour to suggest there's a clear method of outing scum such as 'first voter is scum'. If town plays that way, town will lose.

[sycorax]

What does YMMV mean?

Your Mileage May Vary

meaning you might think differently or have a different opinion or result.

[Sakura Hana]

Ah i see thanks. As on the 1st post = scum thing, if that was widely known scum could just wait and let town get the first vote so the town sees them as scum, so it's not a reliable tactic for finding scum imo.

[TheIrishPope]

Sakura, sycorax, my apologies for being nervous and skeptical of everyone. I just want my first game to go well. If either of you are mafia, I'm pretty sure I will get killed at night for talking too much.
Seriously, where is everyone?

[Sakura Hana]

it's fine, at this point in the game anyone can be scum, so im in the same situation, i dont even know where to start looking.
As to where is everyone, well it's sunday they're probably out having fun and haven't checked their PMs, my guess is that unless someone replaces out Monday we will have more activity.

[sycorax]

It's dinner time in some of the most populous parts of North America, Irish. I'd expect participation to ramp up a bit in the next couple of hours.

[sycorax]

Sakura, sycorax, my apologies for being nervous and skeptical of everyone. I just want my first game to go well. If either of you are mafia, I'm pretty sure I will get killed at night for talking too much.
Seriously, where is everyone?

Being skeptical of everyone is good. Especially on D1. Keep in mind these games have two week long days :breathes into paper bag: so there's plenty of time to become more familiar with the other players and sniff out who the real scum are. or we'll sniff you out.

[sycorax]

If you are scum.

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah, that's another thing, I'm used to 12 hour days. At least we get two weeks instead of three, eh?
Why do you see me as scum?

[Ms Marangal]

Irish, where do you get the impression that the first person to vote is likely scum? Explain that to me. Also, don't play the sympathy card, it's going to further my scum-read on you.

@ Thor: Why not? and I wasn't exactly defending Neko per sey, Just stating to Irish that Leniency this early in the game isn't to bad a thing.

as for why Sakura is town, I get the feeling that she is trying to legitimately scum hunt, and truly doesn't understand where you are coming from, though is trying her hardest to go after her scum reads. I find her reasons and actions to be fairly reasonable for town, and not so much for scum.

[sycorax]

Yeah, that's another thing, I'm used to 12 hour days. At least we get two weeks instead of three, eh?
Why do you see me as scum?

I'm used to 24/12s. And the third week is the night phase here.

If your question is addressed to me, I haven't yet seen you as scum, but for someone who claims mafia experience, your remark about scum posting first seemed oddly misguided.

[Sakura Hana]

He didn't clam having mafia experience, in fact he stated being new as well as i did. Did i miss something in his posts?

[Sakura Hana]

Ah nvm, he did specify having experience outside of MS

[TheIrishPope]

Irish, where do you get the impression that the first person to vote is likely scum? Explain that to me. Also, don't play the sympathy card, it's going to further my scum-read on you.

Games I have played. In general, the most eager to lynch someone wants to speed up the process of killing. Again,

this is my experience.

If you don't agree with me, that's fine.

I'm used to 24/12s. And the third week is the night phase here.

The night phase is three days long.
My experience does not mean you have to believe what I say. That was my opinion, that's all. We still have two weeks to weed out the scum. I'm not worried about you guys, because you seem to be town for the moment. However, you all ganging up on me does make me think. I am worried about those who are not posting as much: Shawn, Thor, and those who have not posted at all. Sakura, sycorax, Marangal, a question for all of you: Who do you think is scum at the moment?

[Sakura Hana]

If i thought someone was scum i'd have FoS'd them by now, or voted them rather, but why are you worried about us ganging up on you?

[Thor665]

@ Thor: Why not? and I wasn't exactly defending Neko per sey, Just stating to Irish that Leniency this early in the game isn't to bad a thing.

as for why Sakura is town, I get the feeling that she is trying to legitimately scum hunt, and truly doesn't understand where you are coming from, though is trying her hardest to go after her scum reads. I find her reasons and actions to be fairly reasonable for town, and not so much for scum.

1. Which...is defending the slot. I'm just curious why you feel the need/desire to. Didn't you want to see Neko respond to an attack in order to gauge the slot. Heck, maybe Irish did too for all we know. You then stepped in and prevented that, protecting a slot and also denying scumhunting. I want to know why - and saying 'why not' is not a good enough answer.

2. Maybe. Wanna vote Irish?

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.1

(1)

Shawn

-

(Sakura Hana, Sakura Hana,)

sycorax
(1)

Sakura Hana

- Shawn,

(Thor665, Thor665)

(1)

TheIrishPope

- Thor665

(0)

Thor665

-

(Thor665, Sakura Hana)

(6)

Not voting

- Commandodude, MontyWhittaker, Ms Marangal, Nekoko,

(Sakura Hana, Shawn, sycorax,)

TheIrishPope,

(Thor665, Sakura Hana, Sakura Hana,)

Sakura Hana


It is not up to me to say who has confirmed or not until the confirmation period is over.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The deadline is May 4 at 10:35 PM PDT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-05-04 22:35:00)

[sycorax]

lol! Irish, I don't think you have more than one vote on you yet. My vote is still on Shawn, though it could move at any time I think there's a better candidate for scum. You're beginning to appear as if you are flailing, which ime can indicate nervous scum.

If you are town, stop worrying about people fosing you - there are thirteen days to prove you're town and for us to find scum.

[Thor665]

Or we could just lynch Irish now.

[TheIrishPope]

Got it mod! Thanks.

sycorax, I will follow your advice. I will stop worrying. I'm confident Town will win this and the scum will die. My newbie paranoia is surfacing.
Thor, do you know something we do not? You seem a bit too eager to lynch me.

[Sakura Hana]

Got it mod! Thanks.

sycorax, I will follow your advice. I will stop worrying. I'm confident Town will win this and the scum will die. My newbie paranoia is surfacing.
Thor, do you know something we do not? You seem a bit too eager to lynch me.

What gives you such confidence?