Open 491: The Popcorn Mafia: GAME OVER

[RedPanda]

Who here wants me to get shot?

I'd like everyone to answer that.

[RedPanda]

Also the guys who keep going " hey shoot me ! hey shoot me! " should stop. that's like the dumbest way to play this game and people are going to get mixed reads based on that and also it might just cost us the game.

[fferyllt]

Given your track record in the last popcorn game, I'd be happy to see you shot.

[fuzzybutternut]

WHERE THE FUCK IS OUR GUN BEARER.

I wouldn't mind you getting shot, RP.

[Catlord]

Who here wants me to get shot?

I'd like everyone to answer that.

Becouse you have been pretty in-active you would not be a terrible choose to shoot. Although I would not shoot you becouse I feel that their are stronger scum reads out there.

[Catlord]

Also the guys who keep going " hey shoot me ! hey shoot me! " should stop. that's like the dumbest way to play this game and people are going to get mixed reads based on that and also it might just cost us the game.

I agree with this quite a bit.

[Sanjay]

CrashTextDummie has received his second prod.

[CrashTextDummie]

I apologize for the delay. Here's where I stand in terms of strategy and game state:

We need to kill 4 scum and we can afford 3 dead townies. Our odds of hitting scum are never going to be better than 50%. We are also never going to confirm anyone as town (other than the current gunbearer) and we have no voting records to hold people accountable by. For these reasons, I don't find PoE lists at all helpful. Sure, PoE can improve the odds of shooting correctly, but only if the town reads are rock solid, and they are never going to be. I therefore suggest that we create an environment where people give strong scum or town reads and dispense with the in-between. There's nothing stopping you from scumhunting aggressively, you literally can't be mislynched in this game. Posts that serve the sole purpose of nurturing your image are therefore scummy. This includes all posts along this line:

I second that! having us as a gun-bearer would be awesome!

Srand, I want to be shot too, does that make me scum?

Maybeso, maybenot! It will cost you one bullet to find out <3

fferyllt > jeremylu > catlord > minimal. I'd recommend shooting in that order.

I like this list. The start of it, anyway.

woohoo! shoot me first!

All these posts translate into "I'm not afraid to be shot! Ain't I super-protown!". Now I realize that having the gun is somewhat alluring, but trying to get yourself shot as town is literally the only strategic fuck-up you can do in this set-up. It uses up one of our few misfires, it's wishing death upon the current gunbearer, it's playing against your wincon. There is

zero

pro-town motivation for this kind of posting, but there

is

strong scum-motivation.

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I'm probably going to take a shot pretty soon. More players are twiddling their thumbs than there is scum in the game, and we probably need a dead body to have any real grounds for scumhunting. Catlord is off-limits, I have a town read on him. My current shitlist is topped by these 3 individuals:
- Syryana
- fuzzybutternut
- jeremylu

I need imput from everyone on who you most want shot out of this list, with reasoning.

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Random observation and another request to everyone:

Even if you think you can shoot all three mafia on your lonesome, it doesnt justify asking for shooter to kill himself off and waste a misfire. Not a towny reaction imo

Ineffective gets the number of scum wrong. Please state whether this looks like a townslip to you.

[fuzzybutternut]

I beg to differ, actually. But, I digress. Shoot who you wish.

[Minimal]

I thought it was three scum, not four but what ineffective said could be a town-slip, or it could be smart scum-cover up.

I like all three of those people as probable shooting suspects, however I think that Syry is the one of those three that should be shot at. Reason being, if he is in fact town, then I believe that he is the one who is most likely to end up making the right decision on who to shoot next.

Jeremylu doesn't give me to strong a scum vibe

and I'm thinking Fuzzy is just being an idiot this game. Don't think it's indicative of alignment though


(This post has been made apart from the messiah head. I am sure he will come in and give his own opinions soon enough)

[Catlord]

The fact that he got the number of scum wrong means nothing to me. A silly mistake is a silly mistake. Scum could just as easily make it as town.

Out of that list I also think Syryana is the best bet. As I have stated before it seemed like he was trying to control the gun. He claims that it was just trolling but that could easily just be a cover up.

[CrashTextDummie]

I beg to differ, actually. But, I digress. Shoot who you wish.

What do you beg to differ with? Your refusal to participate in scumhunting is noted.

I like all three of those people as probable shooting suspects, however I think that Syry is the one of those three that should be shot at. Reason being, if he is in fact town, then I believe that he is the one who is most likely to end up making the right decision on who to shoot next.

Jeremylu doesn't give me to strong a scum vibe

and I'm thinking Fuzzy is just being an idiot this game. Don't think it's indicative of alignment though

If Jeremylu doesn't give you a strong scum vibe and Fuzzy's play isn't indicative of alignment, why do you like both of them as shooting targets?

The fact that he got the number of scum wrong means nothing to me. A silly mistake is a silly mistake. Scum could just as easily make it as town.

Scum knows how many partner they have. From town it's a silly mistake, from scum it's an act of deception. Do you disagree with this?

[fuzzybutternut]

Who says I'm not scumhunting?

[CrashTextDummie]

Telling me to "shoot who

wish" when I ask for an opinion on specific players says you're not scumhunting. Not helping in the decision-making process might have might have been putting it better.

[fuzzybutternut]

Well, it's your decision who you want to shoot. You're going to shoot who you want anyway.

[srand]

In favor of shooting jeremylu: redpanda, srand, ineffective
Against shooting jeremylu: catlord, jeremylu, minimal
Undecided: ffery, RM, fuzzy, syryana

For this reason, I'd recommend shooting jeremy if you are set on shooting between the three. However, I still think fferyllt has the highest chance of being mafia.

[RachMarie]

Syr has basically been trolling most of the game... Could be a sign of trying to appear active and see hey I am taking the limelight so I must be town... Not positive on this, but yeah not sure what the trolling was all about.

Not sure but think Jeremy is new? He is playing a rather meh game, could be newbscum... but yeah need to see more from him.

Just finished a recent game with Fuzzy and he pulled the wool over my eyes pretty good with his fake Seer claim..

So yeah in order probably
1. Syr
2. Fuzzy
3. Jeremy

Good to see you getting active CTD. I was beginning to wonder if we were going to have yet another gunbearer replacement...
Now we can get down to business.

[fuzzybutternut]

Wait, you actually believed that claim? O.o

Awesome! Haha. I didn't even believe it.

*shrug* Okay.

[RachMarie]

Why do you think I was fighting your lynch... lol

But then I may have been influenced by the fact that in the last round of that setup we had a retired werewolf hunter and a werewolf for a scum... And also the fact that a cop/seer fake claim in most games would be a bad idea....

[Minimal]

Because, while neither of them give me strong scum vibes, I still feel that they are the most likely to compromise the scum team at this point.

[Catlord]

It could be an act of scum deception. But I think it is more likely that it was a typo regardless of alliance.

[fuzzybutternut]

So what does the Messiah head say?

[fferyllt]

I'm probably going to take a shot pretty soon. More players are twiddling their thumbs than there is scum in the game, and we probably need a dead body to have any real grounds for scumhunting. Catlord is off-limits, I have a town read on him. My current shitlist is topped by these 3 individuals:
- Syryana
- fuzzybutternut
- jeremylu

I need imput from everyone on who you most want shot out of this list, with reasoning.

I think Syryana is the most likely town of the 3. Although he's goofed around, especially at the start, he's done some analysis, too.

jeremylu comes off pretty n00b. He's scumtelling pretty consistently though.

fuzzy is somewhere in between. I've liked a few of his posts.

If I had to choose one of these three to shoot, I'd be torn between jeremy and fuzzy. If either or both are scum, then it's good times. If jeremy's town, then I doubt that him having the gun would be a good idea. If town, I think fuzzy would do a better job of scumhunting and shooting.

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Random observation and another request to everyone:

Even if you think you can shoot all three mafia on your lonesome, it doesnt justify asking for shooter to kill himself off and waste a misfire. Not a towny reaction imo

Ineffective gets the number of scum wrong. Please state whether this looks like a townslip to you.

Ineffective is an experienced player from what I know. It looks like a townslip, but I wouldn't put it past him to fake that. Seems like he's picked up a lot of townreads so far, though.

[RachMarie]

I am confused? I thought Ineffective was a new player? I remember he posted a while back in the intro to newbies thread and I believe his join date is very recent.. I was reading him as a newbie most likely newbtown...

[fuzzybutternut]

He joined the second of April. 20 days ago.