Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Icebox]

I'm not so sure I like how you make a couple of points against thene but still call him town for the meta tell.

Those are his town meta.

[Does Bo Know]

My bigger posts usually take some preview edits too, Egg. It's okay.

Speaking of, PEdit: For some reason I've lost interest in the fuzzy/bulbazak relationship. Bulbazak's interactions with Fuzzy in RVS make sense to me. We've played in a game before as lovers and I felt he really does what it takes to win, but I can also accept that Bulb would like a challenge from scum as well.

That's not to say Bulbazak isn't scum. I just feel there isn't really an associative tell between the two anymore.

However, I don't think Icebox and Fuzzy would be scum together either. My gut tells me Icebox wouldn't have voted/suspected Fuzzy if they were partners.

Another thing about Zach (checked him out after more thoroughly reading Icebox's catch-up): refused to answer Klick's random questions. Now I understand if they were dumb questions, but like I had suspected, there was a reason for the questions. Zach may not have answered them because he could be worried someone would suspect him for the wrong answer. Kinda like how TNE's suspicion originated in this game.

Plus, Zach does seem to be too agreeable with Klick's RQS. Why not answer the questions himself in a first post, and then say it was a good contributor to his scum reads?

[Does Bo Know]

Meh, just read that Zach also might not have had time to answer the questions. So I'm less suspicious of Zach. But he's definitely not townie to me right now.

[Mac]

Mac, as I said before, a brief moment of forgetfulness as far as the two scum teams is more likely to come from town. The only reason it's null for me and not a town tell is because I already brought it up earlier. I'm aware of it so it doesn't really work.

I think I agree other than I'd say town OR mafia. Werewolves are aware they are werewolves, I think mafia are likely to forget that they are actually not the only scum team.

Need to have a look at TNE later and see what his contribution has been, can't say I remember any of his posts.

[Does Bo Know]

You can't remember any of his posts because he's barely done anything. Duh.

I also can't see town forgetting there are two scum teams; scum just seems more likely, IMO.

@Mac: Thinking that werewolves are more aware than mafia that there are two scum teams makes me a little suspicious of you.

[Mac]

Why? It's pretty obvious.

[Bulbazak]

176 has "robots"? What does that even mean?

Wtf do you mean, has robots in it?

Pedit: Damnit Bo.

And robots? What the fuck? Lol.

Guys quit making me preview edit. That's three times for this post lol.

Click on the link in Autti's post. You'll see what I mean.

Also seeing Icebox as more likely to be scum. As you can see above, I inadvertently created a reaction test, and they didn't bite. Instead, they went into full-on defense mode when implied that they might be scum. I'm glad I got that read right.

Got the Egg read wrong, though. Liking him as town now. His posts are very thought out and read townish.

[Does Bo Know]

Oh wait.

Never mind, yeah, Werewolves aren't a normal scum faction, and Mafia are. Okay, I can see where that's coming from.

@Bulb: I don't really see how it's "robotic" or anything though. Mind helping me out there?

Also can't see Icebox's response being a full-on defense, and how that paints him as scummy.

I also have Egg as town. He's been open to suspecting many players, something a townie should do considering they're looking for more scum than Mafia or Werewolves are. Bulb, why did you have Egg as scum initially?

[Syryana]

Hey Bo. Go click the link in Autti's post. I promise you'll figure it out.

[Does Bo Know]

You mean in the beginning when Autti called me town and then made observations instead of noting townie details?

I noticed that. It's suspicious.

I don't see how that relates to "robots."

Or am I still missing it?

[Syryana]

If you click the #167 link in his post, it links to another game called Robots.

[Does Bo Know]

Oh, click

Autti's

link. Okay.

I think I didn't bother clicking it earlier because I kinda knew what #167 had.

Sooooo why was that game-related?

[Syryana]

It's not as far as I can tell. Probably a URL fuckup. I would never have noticed if Bulba hadn't made mention of it in his oh-so-roundabout manner.

[zabriel]

Vote Count 1.2

Autti (

BEF

)
Icebox (TNE)
FBN (Klick, Zach, Icebox)
TNE (Egg, DBK, Syryana, Bulba, Autti)
Bulbazak (Mac)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

BEF is being replaced at his request.

[zachattack]

Meh, just read that Zach also might not have had time to answer the questions. So I'm less suspicious of Zach. But he's definitely not townie to me right now.

Yeah this. I didn't get a chance to read until after Klick exposed his reasons for the questioning. Seemed pointless at that point.

TNE is a classic scum or dumb situation, and this wagon was clearly coming, to those who argued against my preemptive dismissing of this wagon. I think he's dumb town here. I've read his scum games. He tries not to act like such an idiot in them. The lack of effort is a town tell for him in my eyes.

Curious about Rem's read on me. I understand not fully explaining a read to the rest of the game, you don't want to taint my reactions. But not explaining to your Hydra partner? Man, one of these times it would be nice to play with a town Hydra, just to see what it's like. Still happy with my vote on Fuzzy, and Icebox is still my #2.

[Does Bo Know]

Curious about Rem's read on me. I understand not fully explaining a read to the rest of the game, you don't want to taint my reactions. But not explaining to your Hydra partner?

Man, one of these times it would be nice to play with a town Hydra, just to see what it's like.

Still happy with my vote on Fuzzy, and Icebox is still my #2.

Oh man.

This isn't looking good for you bro.

Also I've played with scum TNE before. This play of his isn't much different.

[Does Bo Know]

For those that need me to explain (like the "the scum team" thing), Zach could easily be Icebox's partner if Icebox flipped scum. He's showing confidence in the hydra being scum with that last post, meaning he could be trying to score towncred if his buddy's lynched.

I mean, he's been on the Fuzzy wagon instead of Icebox, that way he doesn't have to actually contribute to his theoretical buddy's wagon.

Furthermore, this limits my chances of seeing an Icebox/Fuzzy relationship.

[Does Bo Know]

TNE also only acted like an idiot in RQS this game. The rest of his posts look serious.

Seriously

stupid

.

Ohohoho

[Klick]

@the bolded part: That's not really a plausible scumtell, since there are two scum teams.

PEdit: Directed at #215

[Does Bo Know]

That's not what I'm getting at though.

I'll have to metacheck Zach later and see if his town play involves calling his scum reads scum as he plays.

I know some players call their scum reads scum while describing their thought processes. I'm just checking whether that's normal for him or if it's a feasible scum slip.

[Does Bo Know]

Okay, read a few games of his. He's never done anything like that before, but I haven't read a game where he was scum either.

He also barely has any completed games, but eh, I did what I could.

[zabriel]

Freshmaniscoolman replaces BigEyedFish.

[Freshmaniscoolman]

Greetings people.

[zachattack]

I have only one completed game here since 2009. I was scum in 2 of the first 4 games I played here 4 years ago, but my style has changed a lot since then. This is the third hydra I've ever played with, the first two were scum, which doesn't make this one scum, but both had similar instances of one head behaving questionably and the other head not being able to answer for it. I'm voting for fuzzy over Icebox because two for two on this tell isn't enough to call it a guarantee, and aside from interhydra actions he hasn't been too scummy, whereas I haven't liked a single fuzzy post. And fuzzy had more votes, so I'm better placed there, especially since I don't want TNE lynched.

[fuzzybutternut]

And why don't you want TNE lynched?