Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[Nekoko]

So your vote flip-flopping is part of your grand master plan lol

But you did say in your opinion that you have a bad play in Post #302
Was it just to appease the people?

[Shawn]

meh ignore last post, it doesnt make sense.

Thor is scum because he is pushing a bad case on me. This is the main reason. Also his last 2 superfluous posts that didnt serve any purpose and were all over the place. Looks like scum wanting to contribute and commenting on a lot of unimportant things. Who do you think cares about this lynch? Thor? I dont think so because from the beginning, he has only pressured me and he has only talked about me, and has not talked in any serious way about any other candidate in my opinion. Look at what he did just now, came back to much activity, posted 2 or a bit more useless posts and fucked off again, didnt take into account what I said as a whole, but preferred to attack a small part of my play, which is what I said about Irish. Its easy to say that 'im not reading the thread' but difficult to say how that advances a scum agenda and what I have been doing to do that. And he didnt.

Pedit: Sakura, I realized that Irish has stuck to this 'image' thing so long, under a lot of pressure. I played against a dude before who disagreed with my playstyle and he was town. Also some of the stuff he types makes me want to . So yeah town. He is useless but thats not why we should lynch him or anyone.
Also, there is a TON of time, why dont you try and find someone that you genuinely think that would flip scum rather than the 'town but lowest town'

[Shawn]

So your vote flip-flopping is part of your grand master plan lol

But you did say in your opinion that you have a bad play in Post #302
Was it just to appease the people?

yes yes it was.
Vote flipflopping is a towntell. Right MM/thor/other dudes?

[Ms Marangal]

Thor is scum because he is pushing a bad case on me

This is a really, really bad reason to think someone is scum. I believe I have said as much

[Ms Marangal]

Vote hopping is alignment-Null.

[Nekoko]

Vote flipflopping is a towntell. Right MM/thor/other dudes?

Flip-flopping in itself is a null tell.
I think the suspicious part is that it looks like you were changing your target out of convenience or something.

[Nekoko]

like you unvoted Irish and then your reason is because he's dumb

[Nekoko]

Thor is scum because he is pushing a bad case on me.

You're saying because thor is an IC, he's scum if he pushed a bad case on you?

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm you feel pretty relaxed for someone under the pressure of L-1, i'd think scum would be more nervous.
For now
UNVOTE: Shawn
You're still pretty low on my town reads tho.

[Sakura Hana]

lol Neko new avatar

[Shawn]

Thor is scum because he is pushing a bad case on me

This is a really, really bad reason to think someone is scum. I believe I have said as much

yup.
Then again you dont have scum reads. Oh well I guess you dont actually want to lynch anyone today then. What a shame
You wanna actually comment on the meat of the paragraph?

Yes Nekoko, by bad case I mean scum motivated case, sorry if that was unclear.

[Sakura Hana]

I guess imma look at thor's posts in isolation and see if i can draw something, but something about his playstyle's been bothering me for a while, tho i can't put my finger on it.

[Ms Marangal]

I think the focus should be on Monty and Irish, not Commando or Shawn

This kinda states that these guys are my scum reads... or the scum reads that matter

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah, the thing bothering me about Thor is that he wants to lynch something ASAP, if he's scum, he's denying town more discussion which is a good move, i don't see how a town would want to lynch someone fast unless they're 100% sure of their alignment, which is kinda hard to be sure of at this point unless you're scum.

Monty's randomly lurking does bother me, specially since he never expressed a V/LA which could seem that he's scum watching town fight against each other and enjoying the ride without doing much.

FoS: Thor and Monty

[Shawn]

The reason why I think that Irish is town is because I think that he believes in what he is saying, and that he thinks that it is a good way to play mafia, which means that he isnt trying to bullshit us or avoid responsibility. Thats the way he plays. Its dumb but its not scummy unless you have a other agenda and I dont think that Irish has one.

[Shawn]

MM, is any of my reasoning/analysis of thors play so far wrong? Do you think that it makes him scum/town/null?

[Sakura Hana]

Ah well, off to sleep

[Ms Marangal]

well... considering the fact that your case on him is mostly his play-style, I would say that everything you have on him is pretty off Just as I believe that everything He has on you is pretty off.

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.13

(3)

Shawn

- Thor665, Nekoko,

(Sakura Hana,)

TheIrishPope
(1)

TheIrishPope

- MontyWhittaker,

(Shawn)

(1)

Commandodude

- sycorax
(1)

Sakura Hana

- Commandodude
(1)

Thor665

- Shawn

(2)

Not voting

- Ms Marangal,

(Shawn,)

Sakura Hana


Ms Marangal is V/LA until April 24.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The deadline is May 4 at 10:35 PM PDT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-05-04 22:35:00)

[Shawn]

well... considering the fact that your case on him is mostly his play-style, I would say that everything you have on him is pretty off Just as I believe that everything He has on you is pretty off.

Right.
So Irish is scum cause he cares more about appearance and Monty is scum cause he is blendy.
Is that right?

[TheIrishPope]

Shit guys, I had the weirdest dream.
Anywho, good discussion.
I am changing my vote due to new information, and me agreeing on the soundness of your logic. I see nothing wrong in that. Could you please elaborate on that?
I'll be here for 45 minutes from this post on, and then come back at around 2:30 UTC-4:30

[Shawn]

Shit guys, I had the weirdest dream.
Anywho, good discussion.
I am changing my vote due to new information, and me agreeing on the soundness of your logic. I see nothing wrong in that. Could you please elaborate on that?
I'll be here for 45 minutes from this post on, and then come back at around 2:30 UTC-4:30

No idea what you are talking about, lol...

[Sakura Hana]

You know, i'm just going to follow Thor's recommendation and since he's my main suspect atm then i'll vote him.
VOTE: Thor

[Ms Marangal]

well... considering the fact that your case on him is mostly his play-style, I would say that everything you have on him is pretty off Just as I believe that everything He has on you is pretty off.

Right.
So Irish is scum cause he cares more about appearance and Monty is scum cause he is blendy.
Is that right?

When you put it that way

though really, it's more then that. That's the surface reasoning, though I'm looking deeper into it. It doesn't seem like he wants to attract attention, and it doesn't seem like he's really into this game. The posts he posts are kinda lurkish as well IMO

Irish is troublesome because he essentially mirrors what other people are doing and He is actively lurking for the most part. He has next to no content in the majority of his posts, and I don't see where he "believes" in his play in the way you do.

You know, i'm just going to follow Thor's recommendation and since he's my main suspect atm then i'll vote him.
VOTE: Thor

When did this happen?

[TheIrishPope]

Next to no content? Are you saying I haven't contributed to the game at all?