(No offense bro)
Is this a random vote or a policy vote?
Indeed, I personally would say that it has no value at all.In post 14, ² wrote:Neither of us do RVS. I personally wouldn't say that it has no value at all. It's just not my thing. Buldermar may have more rigorous reasons for eschewing it.
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We're not talking about the same thing, it seems. I'm talking about RV's, an abbreviation of random votes, which by definition cannot help establish any connections (or they wouldn't be random).In post 16, Mr E Roll wrote:I think RVS has value, first as it acts as an icebreaker and helps get conversation moving; although this can also be accomplished by not RV’ing as it is almost always commented on. However, I think it has even more value later as it helps establish connections between players. I don’t think I’ve ever seen scum RV their partner so it may be useful after scum flips.
I've been playing forum mafia elsewhere for years. RVS doesn't exist on those sites. People start the game with discussion of the flavor, they fuss at chronic lurkers and shit posters, policy vote, etc. Something strikes an off note, and we're off. Every game has a more or less unique start. It's interesting. You're not looking for some slight variation on a theme to unravel.In post 19, Mr E Roll wrote:What is generally called RV’ing is a misnomer its really more voting for BS reasons. Very few people actually use a RNG to determine their vote and of those that claim that they do I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them are lying about it. Therefore I still think RVS’ing helps create connections and is a pro-town action.
If everybody entered the games with a simple “hi” like you did and that was the accepted site meta how would that lead to questions and help move us out of RVS?
Random vote based on their avatar.In post 13, Mr E Roll wrote:Is this a random vote or a policy vote?
2 are both heads in agreement with not casting a random vote? Do you not think random voting has any value?
I kind of have to disagree with that last part, at some points scum don't want to be the first voting/hold the hammer, so if they enter with "hi" then throw down a random vote later and they're *not* new, then it can arouse suspicion.In post 21, ² wrote:I've been playing forum mafia elsewhere for years. RVS doesn't exist on those sites. People start the game with discussion of the flavor, they fuss at chronic lurkers and shit posters, policy vote, etc. Something strikes an off note, and we're off. Every game has a more or less unique start. It's interesting. You're not looking for some slight variation on a theme to unravel.In post 19, Mr E Roll wrote:What is generally called RV’ing is a misnomer its really more voting for BS reasons. Very few people actually use a RNG to determine their vote and of those that claim that they do I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them are lying about it. Therefore I still think RVS’ing helps create connections and is a pro-town action.
If everybody entered the games with a simple “hi” like you did and that was the accepted site meta how would that lead to questions and help move us out of RVS?
RVS kind of cheapens the early votes. Nobody has to ask "why?" when they are voted or otherwise flinch at the attention a vote brings because it's just RVS. The only slight utility I see to it is that in a game where most of the players don't know each other or know how to get things started, there's a starting place. Problem is, it's a somewhat safe starting place for scum.
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