Micro 162 - Poetic Justice Mafia (Justice is buldermar!)

[buldermar]

You sure you're not Dutch? I thought you were.

Jeg er ret overbevist om, at jeg er dansk.

DCLXVI

[4/5] - Human Destroyer, buldermar, pirate mollie, Majiffy
Minimal [2/5] - DCLXVI, Mac
buldermar [1/5] - orcinus_theoriginal
orcinus_theoriginal [1/5] - Minimal

Abstained (Not Voting): fferyllt

[buldermar]

we both have a life

I want to just punch you in the face for using this line.

How else do I respond to a "That account is lurking and it isn't acceptable because they have two heads" accusation that Mac has thrown in my Direction? Furthermore, how do I respond to someone thinking that I'm just trying to slip past under the radar and let DC gather attention when I stated that I did not like the attention he was getting in the first place? Honestly?

For starters you probably shouldn't insinuate that everyone being active doesn't have a life - which is exactly what you do by asserting that you are inactive because you have one.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

we both have a life

I want to just punch you in the face for using this line.

How else do I respond to a "That account is lurking and it isn't acceptable because they have two heads" accusation that Mac has thrown in my Direction? Furthermore, how do I respond to someone thinking that I'm just trying to slip past under the radar and let DC gather attention when I stated that I did not like the attention he was getting in the first place? Honestly?

Why don't you start doing something productive

Like for instance why you thought mac was scum the first time you ever mentioned him despite passing on an opportunity to interact with him

And why is Fery scum? You said that Fery v Buld looked TvT at a first glance (Fery being less of a town read, apparently)...but then you 180d into Fery-scum? How'd that happen

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Marangal

also seems to be overreacting a lot here

[fferyllt]

Are her reads usually a little off the beaten path? I remember her read on me went totally against the consensus in the Polygamy game, but she later said it was tactical.

[fferyllt]

^^ Because the null/scum on HD kinda has that same vibe to me.

[Majiffy]

You sure you're not Dutch? I thought you were.

Jeg er ret overbevist om, at jeg er dansk.

Danish, Dutch, pastries, wooden clogs

What the hell's the difference, amirite?

[buldermar]

You sure you're not Dutch? I thought you were.

Jeg er ret overbevist om, at jeg er dansk.

Danish, Dutch, pastries, wooden clogs

What the hell's the difference, amirite?

For you the difference is a punch in the face!

[Majiffy]

[pirate mollie]

You sure you're not Dutch? I thought you were.

Jeg er ret overbevist om, at jeg er dansk.

Danish, Dutch, pastries, wooden clogs

What the hell's the difference, amirite?

For you the difference is a punch in the face!

correct tr lingo is "punch you in the throat"

[Majiffy]

TOO BAD WE'RE NOT

ON

TR, HUH MISSY?

[Minimal]

I'm going to assume TR is another forum

Orci:

and null-town to null-scum isn't a "180" but more of a slight shift.

I want to believe in town-Mollie and Town-Jiffy but they aren't quite there yet. My scum reads are more PoE more then anything which is something that I do not want to heavily rely on.

the battle between her and Buldey early on seemed TvT though there are details that are stating otherwise, Details that Buldey had already pointed out. If you want the details that are causing me to scum-read her, I'll gladly share them.

Mac is scum for his seemingly opportunistic vote, and his somewhat opportunistic PoV on things. I took a quick look through his posts and realized that he wasn't as bad as I originally thought, though I can't help but feel that he is trying to appease people while still play the game the way he's supposed to.

[Minimal]

^^ Because the null/scum on HD kinda has that same vibe to me.

no. This kind of tactical read will only help me out as much as my tactical scum read on Orci in Hard boiled.

[Mac]

I have fery as town for reasons I cannot explain either but mostly for both of you wanting to replace out.

ff, do you trust that mollie actually thinks our wanting to replace out was alignment indicative?

I have no idea what that looked like from the outside.

Then all the crap from multiple players about how scummy I look this game is just...noise.

interesting.

I think you're exaggerating this. I've not really talked about "how scummy you look", so who besides Mac has?

In my opinion you have, and it doesn't feel like an exaggeration. I think you've mentioned suspicions about me more than Mac has, though in terms of ratios Mac is higher.

Orcinus had his vote on me last night. I think he moved his vote from me to you.

pirate mollie has half-convinced me to drop it. And I've about quarter-convinced myself to drop it, too.

I don't understand the bolded, please explain.

[fferyllt]

@mac, the size of the fraction. 2/17 of your posts mentioned me as suspicious at the time, vs 5/130 (approx) posts by buldermar at the time.

[fferyllt]

If you want the details that are causing me to scum-read her, I'll gladly share them.

I'm curious.

[Mac]

Mac is scum for his seemingly opportunistic vote, and his somewhat opportunistic PoV on things. I took a quick look through his posts and realized that he wasn't as bad as I originally thought, though I can't help but feel that he is trying to appease people while still play the game the way he's supposed to.

Please point out where I try to "appease" people.

Am I scum for voting you? It wasn't ever opportunistic because a) the wagon was pretty dead due to orc pressuring buld and b) the buld wagon which I could've "opportunistically" jumped on when orc asked me too. Instead, I commented on the argument where necessary and got involved and tried to find scum from it.

But hey, if trying to find out if an argument has scum in it and coming to a conclusion about it is wrong, and trying to appease people, then you go ahead and carry on with your scum read.

[Minimal]

353 is pretty appeasing, and so is 344.

and voting for me alone isn't what makes you scum, it's the fact that

it was still the biggest wagon in the game
you joined it in a spot where, should it pick up again, is a comfy spot for scum to be sitting
your reason for voting me is still shit, and the fact that you comment on the lack of activity when the people you were commenting on were as active as they could be at the time is very alarming. also considering that you yourself aren't the most active person in the game, I think that stance is hypocritical.

Fery, I'll get to you in a moment.

[Mac]

Think what you want. There's one of me and two of you in that account. Have we even heard from the other head in this game?

[Minimal]

You could always try what's worked before, I guess.

When exactly?

Leave me alone. I'm not going to talk about an in-progress game.

As in specific game and day - at the very least. I don't recall you ever having read me correctly when I was scum.

You brought up an ongoing game in post 34, didn't you?

Otherwise post 36 would make no sense.

You asked me what it would take for me to vote you.

Me asking you what it would take for you to vote me does not justify you bringing up an ongoing game. You'll have to either lie or not answer the question altogether, and you know this, yet you willingly brought up an ongoing game.

This entire exchange is highly interesting, and I'm wondering how Orci is getting the "buldey is picking on Ffery" comment from this page. What I see here is Fery starting the nit-picking, not the other way around. Buldey questioned Fery about something and she immediately got defensive, stating that she wouldn't bring up an ongoing game. It's strange because I have never seen Fery get this defensive. She could (I think) have brought up a decent answer to Buldemar's request without bringing up an ongoing game so I don't see why she refuses to answer in the first place.

She stated soon after that, that Buldey asked what it would take for her to vote for him. She could have easily answered that without bringing up the "ongoing game" excuse as well.

She's feels strange, and she isn't doing things that I have seen her do in that one game I had with her. Granted, it's tainted by the fact that I already knew her alignment pre-game but still doesn't change my gut read on her.

Pedit: No, I don't even have Messiah's input on the pretty T/S list I left for him in our QT. I don't have any clue as to what he thinks of this game other then the fact that he's a bad person for having to read 14 pages... You don't even try to engage, you just wave off my post like it's nothing?

[Minimal]

NeverLynchTown
{Orci}

Town
{

HD, ffey

}

Null leaning Town
{pirate mollie,

Mac

}

Null leaning Scum
{Minimal}

Scum
{

DCLXVI, Buldermar

*}

*Willing to let Buldermar slide for now as Mollie is reading him town.

VOTE: DCL
Think that's L-1.

I just spotted this...

Jiffy, explain to me the bolded parts. I don't agree with those reads in the slightest.

[fferyllt]

@Minimal I can't reply to that. If that makes me look suspicious, so be it.

[Majiffy]

I already knew [ffery's] alignment pre-game

Uh... what?

I just spotted this...

Jiffy, explain to me the bolded parts. I don't agree with those reads in the slightest.

Jesus fuck you want me to explain five different reads? Check my ruddy ISO and come back with questions after.

[fferyllt]

I already knew [ffery's] alignment pre-game

Uh... what?

she was scum and I was town in the game she is talking about. She talked up a scum read of me all game, though.

[Majiffy]

Oh I thought she was talking about this game. Alright.