Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[TheIrishPope]

To my understanding, Thor voted because you looked scummy and avoided questions. I voted because you defended Commando despite him being obviously scummy.

So you caught me lying = you are town? That makes no sense
What is your question exactly? Why I lied?

What. You are admitting to lying. In a game where liars are SEVERELY PUNISHED. Like, chop your balls off punished.

[Sakura Hana]

@Irish: If you think i'm scum partner with Shawn then why aren't you voting me?
Contribution, have i ever see you make a case on someone? say for example... Shawn? Claiming town is the point of the game? i thought the point of the game was winning by getting the other side dead, Scum can easily claim town, or i would say... that'd be a rather desperate move for scum to do.
I still got feelings that Shawn is scum, but your bandwagoning without arguments bothers me the most.

P-Edit: Shawn is admitting to lying?...

Guess someone wants to die early

VOTE: Shawn

[Shawn]

Perspective.
Damn guys why would I lie intentionally in such a fucking obvious way to not much benefit because I didnt continue pushing Irish much after that.

SO MUCH WIFOM

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah you're drawing so much WIFOM to defend yourself, which is... a scum tactic.
Town has no reason to lie, while Scum has every single reason to lie.

[Shawn]

Yeah you're drawing so much WIFOM to defend yourself, which is... a scum tactic.
Town has no reason to lie, while Scum has every single reason to lie.

What am I lying about?

[TheIrishPope]

Sakura, my darling, I understand your frustration. I can't vote for you because Shawn will give us more information. Would you want me to make a case on Shawn? Seems unnecessary at the moment. The point of the game is in fact killing the other side, but how can we accomplish that, you say? Why, by voting and being sophisticated about it. Shawn is doing the exact opposite, still casting an OMGUS vote at this stage, and changing his votes ans suspicions in quick succession. What other arguments do you need?

Shawn, holy fuck, you just admitted to lying.

[Shawn]

Sakura, my darling, I understand your frustration. I can't vote for you because Shawn will give us more information. Would you want me to make a case on Shawn? Seems unnecessary at the moment. The point of the game is in fact killing the other side, but how can we accomplish that, you say? Why, by voting and being sophisticated about it. Shawn is doing the exact opposite, still casting an OMGUS vote at this stage, and changing his votes ans suspicions in quick succession. What other arguments do you need?

Shawn, holy fuck, you just admitted to lying.

succinct place where I lied.

[Sakura Hana]

Post 367 You're basically misrepping and turning people against Thor by saying he said things he didn't say.

You weren't reading his posts, and you called him out, he evidenced why you weren't reading his posts, and you refused the claims, yet...
Bah you know, why don't you re-read the thread again, maybe you will find your answers in there, why do i have to point stuff out for you when you're clearly not reading if you have to ask.

[Shawn]

Post 367 You're basically misrepping and turning people against Thor by saying he said things he didn't say.

You weren't reading his posts, and you called him out, he evidenced why you weren't reading his posts, and you refused the claims, yet...
Bah you know, why don't you re-read the thread again, maybe you will find your answers in there, why do i have to point stuff out for you when you're clearly not reading if you have to ask.

Thats not lying, thats simplifying. Too much? Maybe, but its not lying.
Keep trying.

[Sakura Hana]

What reason could you have to make up a reason for thor to lynch when he had already pointed out why you were scummy to him?

[Sakura Hana]

You know, it's funny that you find him wanting to lynch you for your outburst on Commando, because you know, he voted you before commando even appeared? makes total sense to me.

[Shawn]

What reason could you have to make up a reason for thor to lynch when he had already pointed out why you were scummy to him?

I didnt make up a reason.
What in the world are you saying?
You clearly agreed with my reasons to lynch thor, why did you suddenly change your mind? Does my being scum(in your eyes) affect the reasoning I gave earlier? It shouldnt.

[Shawn]

You know, it's funny that you find him wanting to lynch you for your outburst on Commando, because you know, he voted you before commando even appeared? makes total sense to me.

Oh so other reasons dont happen. Right. I read his post before that post which you posted as 'lynch shawn cause he is defending lynchbait'. Is that wrong?

[Sakura Hana]

And you're clearly avoiding the question, i already pointed the reason why i'm voting you, but you clearly aren't reading.

I'm done with you, my vote stays there until you can convince me otherwise.

P-Edit: Well then point me to said post?

[Shawn]

And you're clearly avoiding the question, i already pointed the reason why i'm voting you, but you clearly aren't reading.

I'm done with you, my vote stays there until you can convince me otherwise.

P-Edit: Well then point me to said post?

You are voting for me cause im lying, Yes/No?
And you cant point out where Im lying, Yes/No?
And you 180ed on me cause im lying, Yes/No?

Which post? Thor's post before that?

[Sakura Hana]

1. Y
2. N
3. N

You mean Post 357? Can you tell me where did he say he was voting you because of your defense on comando? at most he said to vote you for prentending to read but not reading rather than someone who at least admitted they weren't reading.

[Shawn]

Didnt I say I read that wrong?

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm you feel pretty relaxed for someone under the pressure of L-1, i'd think scum would be more nervous.
For now
Unvote:Shawn
You're still pretty low on my town reads tho.

I never mentioned you were off the hook, why do you say i did?

[Shawn]

1. Y
2. N
3. N

You mean Post 357? Can you tell me where did he say he was voting you because of your defense on comando? at most he said to vote you for prentending to read but not reading rather than someone who at least admitted they weren't reading.

Lying is intentional right? That is the pretext you are operating under. Can you tell me why you think that post was intentional lying?

pedit: cause you sheeped my stuff on thor.

[Shawn]

1. Y
2. N
3. N

You mean Post 357? Can you tell me where did he say he was voting you because of your defense on comando? at most he said to vote you for prentending to read but not reading rather than someone who at least admitted they weren't reading.

Lying is intentional right? That is the pretext you are operating under. Can you tell me why you think that post was intentional lying?

pedit: cause you sheeped my stuff on thor.

[Sakura Hana]

Where did you say you read it wrong? with quotes or links, since you like them so much

[Sakura Hana]

I didn't sheep your stuff on thor, i just found it scummy to want to end the day early, and i never said he was off the hook either.

[Ms Marangal]

Yeeeaaahhhh....

I lied, looked through the Iso and Shawn isn't as town as I thought, though he still isn't the scum that Thor thinks he is

He was solid on his Thor scum read, though he wanted to get perspective of others to make sure he wasn't tunelling.

His read on me, Commando, Irish, and just about every other read he had moved quite a bit until he had Commando as obvtown. His voting can opportunistic, and a good amount of his reads are actually following other people, or he could be town sheeping other peoples reads.

He was town because of a handful of posts, those posts are him defending Commando, him trying to "understand" where others are coming from. That was the town motivation that I saw behind his post

He voted Monty when I stated that I wanted him to be a focus, so If Shawn is scum, Monty is probably town. I still don't see how Irish is probably town when Shawn is scum though.


I need to go re-read the game and rearrange my reads

[Sakura Hana]

@Shawn: I find it funny that even tho you admitted you could've read it wrong, you're still reading things wrong, like me 180ing on you when i never said you or thor were off the hook, or me sheeping you on thor. Now then if you're really not lying or misrepping on purpose, then why aren't you making an effort to... you know... STOP DOING IT?

[Shawn]

Yes.
Now vote the one doing the same thing and not admitting to it. At least Commandodude admitted they weren't reading gak and appears to care little about the game.
Guess which player look slike scum and which like a player who just isn't reading?

My apologies, I was wrong.

-snip-

Ok Sakura, this is not WIFOM, its optimal play.
In a 9 player mini, where there are 2 scum, scum dont bus out of nowhere especially day 1, its too difficult to go like 7-1 day 2.
So I assumed that by voting for my read that I pushed all game, you thought that I was town, cause If thor is scum, im not.

Ok ok relax, unvote me so scum doesnt hammer, and calm down. thanks
Ill try to not do stuff again(i didnt know I did it in the first place)