Micro 164: Epic Mafia (Game Over)

[Rob14]

@Mod - Going to have a short V/LA from 4/26 to 4/28. I'm running/walking/gasping for air in a Relay for Life to raise money for cancer.

[BBmolla]

We're letting BBMolla slip through the cracks. Does anyone see a real reason for any of his votes? He tells me that he had a reason for voting me but hes not going to tell me. He then unvotes me and votes bubba... no reason stated... then he unvotes and votes jake 'because he's probably scum' then he townreads bubba and I and outs his reads, says the game is mostly solved, and votes catboi by reasoning of 'Gut'

Spoiler:

I was wondering the same... day start just gives us a mislynch. Oh well.

VOTE: rmpeacoc

Yeah I'm just gonna assume Peacoc is an over reactive player and move on from there

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bubba

Also this is an EM setup with EM players. If you don't like us/it. Replace out.

It's not that we don't like you, your tells are just wrong.

3. BBMolla is from EM I do believe? I'm sure some of you have also played on EM before.

Yeah I am, my first few games my tells and such were still from EM too. Just be aware that most EM tells don't apply here.

FWIW Jake is probably scum this game of some flavor.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jake

Rob you are an asshole. You are saying I'm the VI when I garuntee me and RMP have played mafia LONGER then you have. I understand mafia. I understand this setup. It is an EM setup.

Doesn't mean you understand forum mafia better than those who have played forum mafia longer, get off your high horse kid.

Bubba's probably town yeah. Peacoc too. You possibly Rob.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: catboi

I'm suspicious

You could vote me

[rmpeacoc]

Yet I never said anything about your scum meta, I never brought it up.

YOU did

. Because it's on your mind and you had to get off your chest that

"I would have acted that way as town as well"

Again, I thought you had brought it up because you responded to a post talking about that specific game and referred to scum having their buttons pushed, which is what happened to me in that game. YOUR misunderstanding over what Piratecat posted caused ME to misunderstand what you posted, leading me to respond to you how I would have had you exercised proper reading comprehension and posted what you did in response to what Piratecat was talking about, instead of an unrelated subject.

I understand. It's tough to admit that you have difficulty reading. It's okay, though. We're here to support you.

Rpm: Wagon hopping isn't scummy unless it's opportunistic. If it's done to apply pressure, it's likely town motivated. At this point in time, it's not really a pattern that you can gain any info from. Not enough votes in the game yet to establish opportunistic voting.

We're letting BBMolla slip through the cracks. Does anyone see a real reason for any of his votes? He tells me that he had a reason for voting me but hes not going to tell me. He then unvotes me and votes bubba... no reason stated... then he unvotes and votes jake 'because he's probably scum' then he townreads bubba and I and outs his reads, says the game is mostly solved, and votes catboi by reasoning of 'Gut'

Spoiler:

I was wondering the same... day start just gives us a mislynch. Oh well.

VOTE: rmpeacoc

Yeah I'm just gonna assume Peacoc is an over reactive player and move on from there

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bubba

Also this is an EM setup with EM players. If you don't like us/it. Replace out.

It's not that we don't like you, your tells are just wrong.

3. BBMolla is from EM I do believe? I'm sure some of you have also played on EM before.

Yeah I am, my first few games my tells and such were still from EM too. Just be aware that most EM tells don't apply here.

FWIW Jake is probably scum this game of some flavor.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jake

Rob you are an asshole. You are saying I'm the VI when I garuntee me and RMP have played mafia LONGER then you have. I understand mafia. I understand this setup. It is an EM setup.

Doesn't mean you understand forum mafia better than those who have played forum mafia longer, get off your high horse kid.

Bubba's probably town yeah. Peacoc too. You possibly Rob.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: catboi

I'm suspicious

You could vote me

I'm okay with my current vote for now. I still think Fuzzy is scum. I'm trying to spark discussion. I also said you were suspicious. I never said that you were scum. Point is that I'm leery of you.

[rmpeacoc]

FML- Rob... I was going to say something to you as well. I'm still going to look at the votes tomorrow or this weekend. I want to reread everything anyway and it will help me get a real look at things, even if you don't think it's helpful.

[BBmolla]

Well your suspicion is warranted, I was lazy and fell behind yesterday. I'll try to solve the game when I get home after class.

[fuzzybutternut]

Geez, you guys move faaast (=^-ω-^=)

Not really loving rmp's reactions or her explanations but she's not as scummy as thiiis~

VOTE: fuzzybutternut

He's setting up a a chain lynch by proposing a false rmp/bubba dichotomy, saying one is scum if the other isn't, but there's no reason for this. One of them doesn't HAVE to be scum if the other's town, and they don't have any interactions that would suggest this, plus he moved his vote to bubba after he got attacked for his rmp vote.

(also I'm from EM too that's why I signed up for this game :3)

Rule of Three. That's all I'm saying to that.

[GuyInFreezer]

Rule of Three

Gonna read up soon.

[fuzzybutternut]

Simple psychology, GiF.

[Rob14]

Isn't it the rule of two? There's a Sith Master and an Apprentice. The Apprentice grows in strength until he strikes down....

Wait, were we talking about Mafia?

[fuzzybutternut]

Haha. Rob.

Nope. Rule of Three. At the time, two people were on my wagon, and, iirc, another was calling me scum.

I will say this again. There is scum in Bubba/rmp. They may both be scum.

[RichardGHP]

Vote Count 1.7

• bubbajack8 (2)
  : Rob13 fuzzybutternut
  
• fuzzybutternut (2)
  : rmpeacoc catboi
  
• Rob13 (2)
  : Jake from State Farm bubbajack8
  
• rmpeacoc (1)
  : GuyInFreezer
  
• catboi (1)
  : BBmolla
  
• Not voting:
  Piratecat

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2013-05-03 17:57:30).

[rmpeacoc]

Haha. Rob.

Nope. Rule of Three. At the time, two people were on my wagon, and, iirc, another was calling me scum.

I will say this again. There is scum in Bubba/rmp. They may both be scum.

Why don't you at least ATTEMPT to support yourself. Even if you had supported yourself before (Which you didn't do well at, I might add) There has been a lot that has happened that you haven't even attempted to talk about.

Also:
It's easy to see bubba and I the way that Fuzzy sees us.

But you gotta realize we're friends. Which is also why I'll never townread bubba and I'll always be leery of him.

I'm easily convinced by friendship. It's a weakness.

[bubbajack8]

@Mod - Going to have a short V/LA from 4/26 to 4/28. I'm running/walking/gasping for air in a Relay for Life to raise money for cancer.

also hy do you just say rule of three and not answer what ct was saying, your lack of defense is disheartining.

[Rob14]

@Mod - Going to have a short V/LA from 4/26 to 4/28. I'm running/walking/gasping for air in a Relay for Life to raise money for cancer.

also hy do you just say rule of three and not answer what ct was saying, your lack of defense is disheartining.

I'm confused on why you quoted that and who you were talking to.

[fuzzybutternut]

Case 1.) Buddying
Case 2.) Bubba says it's suspicious Rob and I are voting for him, but is it not also suspicious that he and rmp were voting me at one point also?
Case 3.) Terrible defense of everything from Bubba. Jumbled speaking, can't get his words straight.
Case 4.) More buddying of from the two.

Need I go on?

[bubbajack8]

you literally just copied my arguement fuzzy. also i never said rmp wasnt scum, she also said she is weary of me and can nevrr get a hood town read on me, so yout argument is terrjble

@rkb im on my kindle so thats why things may seem jubbled and i hav no clue how that got quoted.

fuzzy km also vting rob right now for his scum meta ordeal, and ou dont see tmp sheeping that, why is it me and rmp and not me and jake?

[fuzzybutternut]

lol, read that post and you tell me.

[rmpeacoc]

Apparently it's not clear to you that bubba and I play with each other a lot, so yeah it might look like we're buddying but as we are EMers we're not used to RVS. We don't random vote like all of you do, and we certainly don't bandwagon like you did. So yeah, we both voted you. Does that make us scum? no.

Also with the buddying its like I said it might look like that but like I said we're friends. It's really hard when you consider someone your friend to read them and its really hard when you see their point and agree with them not to seem like you are buddying.

[fuzzybutternut]

So, Basically, "Lol we're not buddying, we just play together a lot, you silly goose." Yeah, no. Do you know how often I play with the same people? Pretty damn often. Do I buddy them? No. I do not.

[bubbajack8]

"case 2. bubba says its suspi ious fhat rob and i are votinv him, but is it not suspicous him and rmp were voting me at one point?"

notice me and rmp arent voting together right now, notice she doesnt want go townread me , also notice me and jake are voting together right now o Rob so why is mp and me more suspicious then me an jake?

you say budding

then why is rm reluntant to town read me?

pedit fuzzy you and rob are hardcore minecraft nd mafia buddies. so what you just posted is so hypocritical....

[fuzzybutternut]

*facepalm*

We are not "hardcore mafia buddies." I've never played a game with Rob. EVER. There is nothing hypocritical about anything I said. Now, would you like to straw man some more, or shall you just give up and accept the fact that you are indeed, scum.

[rmpeacoc]

What I'm saying is that if that's the only argument you have against us it's not very strong.

If anything you would argue that bubba is buddying me, not that we are buddying each other, because he voted you for voting me. But that's not what you said. You said that we were buddying each other.

All I'm asking you to do is tell me where I have been scummy.

Also you play together a lot on MS. Try playing on EM then coming to MS and playing 3/5 of your first 3 games together. We have the same tactics, the same ways of scumhunting. If we were both scum that would be a bit crazy.

You don't seem very willing to scum hunt elsewhere, where everyone else actually does, so I'm still thinking about bbmolla being potential scum, but right now YOU are more anti-town than he is. You're tunneling and focusing on bubba and myself,

Actually in looking back...
Have you even considered that anyone else is scum?

[fuzzybutternut]

Right now, you're defending his play. You've done that before. THAT is buddying.
I've stated that anyone could be scum. I even stated that Rob could be scum. Right now, you two are looking most likely to be scum.

[rmpeacoc]

I'm not defending his play.
I'm defending mine, and telling you that if you think 'we are buddying each other' maybe you should look into it again. It's probably one buddying the other. In my opinion bubba does seem like he is buddying me. Is that because he's really concerned that you are scum, or is that because he is scum knowing he can probably get me on his side?

I haven't defended HIM at all. I've defended my play toward him in the way that I'm assuming we are coming off.

I'm not saying he's not buddying me.

'anyone can be scum' is not scumhunting. If you've actually commented on a scummy statement someone else has made, please quote it, because I'd like to see it.

I'm also looking for other ways that I have been scum, because again, that is a weak argument against me. It's not a bad one against bubba, because you've got more than buddying. You've got him attacking you for voting me. But with me I've merely had the same arguments. why? Because we both see the same things as scummy.

[BBmolla]

Hey guys

Let's lynch catboi