Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[TheIrishPope]

Wiki: Most commonly, it describes the lynch of a player who is not found to be particularly scummy, but because the player's bad play will hurt the town later on.

Me: If someone claims VT, we should lynch him. If he is scum, perfect! If he is town, no PRs were lost and we gain more information on either case. <----- I read this somewhere (probably the wiki) but I can't find it now.

[Sakura Hana]

Ah i see, thanks.

[TheIrishPope]

Half of everyone who signed up has participated actively. MM was more active in V/LA than she is now. Syco and Nekoko have been gone for a couple of days, Thor just drops in to insult Shawn, Monty is now just participating a bit, and it seems Shawn ragequit.
This game has certainly been entertaining, but we need more participation.

[Sakura Hana]

What are your thoughts on everyone so far Irish? What do you think about my case against Shawn and all points that flew across between him, me and Monty?

[TheIrishPope]

I can't really talk about the absent guys so far, but I can talk about you three. Shawn admitted to lying and you and I retaliated quite quickly, heightening our suspicions. Shawn is at L-1 right now, and I will be suspicious of the last vote unless they make a good case. Monty is now participating, which is good. He is suspicious of Shawn, and wants a more in-depth explanation from him. Sakura, you follow the "Lynch all Liars" policy, which is not effective in every case, but Shawn's following posts have added to his scumminess, which is part of your vote on him. So, a quick summary: Shawn will be lynched this day, I will suspect the final voter unless a good reason appears, Monty is reasonable but null, and Sakura, I see you are scumhunting effectively. Don't fuck it up.

[Ms Marangal]

Half of everyone who signed up has participated actively. MM was more active in V/LA than she is now. Syco and Nekoko have been gone for a couple of days, Thor just drops in to insult Shawn, Monty is now just participating a bit, and it seems Shawn ragequit.
This game has certainly been entertaining, but we need more participation.

This is actually one of the most active noobie games on this site... IDFK what you are smoking but I want some

Here's where I stand

Sakura, Commando, and Syncorax are all very likely town. I'm not going to do anything with them. These reads are probably not going to change

Likely town can be found in Nekoko

Shawn is Null, and so is Thor

and that leaves Irish and Monty as probable scum.

Irish somewhat contradicts himself in his post... He says that he finds Shawn to be scummy, yet he will suspect the person who decides to hammer him without good reason.

Shawn comments on the inactive people, though he is doing IIoA (Information Instead of Analysis). Hell, looking through his Iso, he's been doing IIoA all game.

He looks active for the most part, though his posts don't contain any real content.

Monty should actually be placed in my likely town pile looking at his Iso so that leaves one of my null-reads as probable scum. hrm..

Despite his lack of posting, what he does post does have a good amount of content

VOTE: Irish

[Sakura Hana]

Ah, nice to get your input MM, i had Shawn, Thor, Irish and Monty on my FoS for a while tho i thought Shawn was a better lynch today, i did see about Irish contradicting himself in his post and was about to post a note about it, but i figured i'd see if someone else noticed it. And now with that post i can see you're most likely Town, or at least shares views with me on him. I'm still dubious with Shawn's play style, which is why i built a case on him, care to give a comment on it? considering he's null atm for you.

[TheIrishPope]

I wouldn't know, I'm not looking at other people's games.
Why do you think they are town? What do you see in them?
Of course I will be suspicious if someone hammers without a good case. Everyone who has voted for Shawn has expressed their case completely and thoroughly, so it would be weird if the last vote came rapidly and without a base.
IIoA isn't necessarily a towntell.
And you vote me because I have suspicions on someone? Real smart, MM.

[Ms Marangal]

eerrr... I'm using IIoA as a reason to say that you are scum

[TheIrishPope]

I was talking about Shawn's IIoA.
What exactly is scummy about what I say or do?

[Ms Marangal]

Not once did I say shawn was town because of IIoA...

I am also pretty sure I explained why I believe that you are scum as well...

Most of your posts are without much content, without much Original thought, and just active lurking at it's finest. You have a

few

good posts, however it's just a few.

[TheIrishPope]

Shawn comments on the inactive people, though he is doing IIoA (Information Instead of Analysis). Hell, looking through his Iso, he's been doing IIoA all game.

What does this mean, then?
You are using Shawn's tactic of "omg u r useless u r scum"
What would you say is "content" and "original thought"? Everyone has a different view on it.

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm i'm willing to sheep you on this, since i had already voted for Irish, for the exact same reasons you're pointing out (I even put a case on him), but i wanna know your opinion on my case for Shawn since he's my top scum atm. Post 448 in case you missed it during your abscense

[Ms Marangal]

That's supposed to be you, not Shawn Derp..

Irish somewhat contradicts himself in his post... He says that he finds Shawn to be scummy, yet he will suspect the person who decides to hammer him without good reason.

Irish comments on the inactive people, though he is doing IIoA (Information Instead of Analysis). Hell, looking through his Iso, he's been doing IIoA all game.

He looks active for the most part, though his posts don't contain any real content.

Fixed, that's what it's supposed to read


And I still have Shawn at null though he is showing signs of survivalistic tendencies, which is something I don't particularly like. His thought process is everywhere, his reads are jumping all over the place but I'm hesitant to believe that scum will ever be that transparent.

[TheIrishPope]

Got it!
WIFOM? Really? You are resorting to that?
I repeat:
You are using Shawn's tactic of "omg u r useless u r scum"
What would you say is "content" and "original thought"? Everyone has a different view on it.

[Sakura Hana]

It's not the fact that he's transparent or not, is the fact of how he tries to refute stuff, maybe it appears too transparent to you because you're more experienced? idk.

P-Edit: She's refering to the fact that you dont post your own content and only sheep people behind their own content instead I assume.

[Commandodude]

I think right now we should go with a no lynch or lynch Shawn. Anyways, VOTE: No Lynch

[TheIrishPope]

I was the one who voted on Commandodude first, and Shawn as well, so I don't see how I lack originality. How am I not posting my own content? You ask for reads, I give them. And for giving reads, I'm scum. Great.

[Sakura Hana]

I think right now we should go with a no lynch or lynch Shawn. Anyways, VOTE: No Lynch

So basically, forfeit the chance to lynch mafia and give the mafia a free kill?

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.16

(4)

Shawn

- Thor665, Nekoko, TheIrishPope, Sakura Hana
(1)

Commandodude

- sycorax
(1)

MontyWhittaker

- Shawn
(1)

TheIrishPope

-

(MontyWhittaker,)

Ms Marangal

(0)

Thor665

-

(Shawn)

(2)

Not voting

-

(Ms Marangal,)

Commandodude, MontyWhittaker


Votes must be at the start of a new line to be counted.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The deadline is May 4 at 10:35 PM PDT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-05-04 22:35:00)

[Sakura Hana]

@Mod: Didn't Commandodude vote for No-Lynch?

[Tierce]

@Mod: Didn't Commandodude vote for No-Lynch?

Votes must be at the start of a new line to be counted.

[Sakura Hana]

Ah my bad, sorry about that

[Commandodude]

Okay,
VOTE: No-Lynch

[Ms Marangal]

I think right now we should go with a no lynch or lynch Shawn. Anyways, VOTE: No Lynch

No. We do not do this kind of thing, a No lynch is a terrible idea.