Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[Sakura Hana]

Did you even read my post tho Commandodude?

[Commandodude]

Ummmm... I'm thinking about lynching shawn.......

[Sakura Hana]

If you're thinking that you need to say "Intent to Hammer" and ask for a claim or something from him before voting him.

[Commandodude]

I'm not deciding yet, I wonder what he has to say.

[Commandodude]

Then again, stating that would be a good way to get his views.

[Sakura Hana]

Well yes, the point of stating it instead of just hammering is to give him a chance to defend himself

[TheIrishPope]

Shawn! Defend thyself!
Oh right, he's sleeping. Fuck.
Commandodude, how will you proceed?

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.17

(4)

Shawn

- Thor665, Nekoko, TheIrishPope, Sakura Hana
(1)

Commandodude

- sycorax
(1)

MontyWhittaker

- Shawn
(1)

TheIrishPope

- Ms Marangal

(1)

No Lynch

- Commandodude

(1)

Not voting

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(Commandodude,)

MontyWhittaker

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The deadline is May 4 at 10:35 PM PDT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-05-04 22:35:00)

[Commandodude]

This is going to be annoying as hell because of the timezones. I have no idea what I'm going to do, but I want a claim from shawn.

[TheIrishPope]

Then we play the waiting game.
The most boring game in the history of games.

[Commandodude]

Let's just hope we wake up tommorow with a claim from shawn, I dunno what to do since he's already L-1.

[MontyWhittaker]

So, let's play a fun game while we wait. Let's say that Shawn's claim convinces you unequivocally that he is town. Who do you cast your suspicions on next? This question is for the group, no need for so many hands to go up at once...

[TheIrishPope]

Interesting question indeed. If he is town, Commandodude is most certainly town as well, and I would be lost. Possible: Thor, Nekoko, Sycorax, in no particular order.
And you, Monty?

[Sakura Hana]

Monty, i already have my Fosses on you, Irish and Thor, tho you're starting to sound a bit more Townish to me. So i guess i'd go with Irish who is my 2nd highest scumspect.

[TheIrishPope]

I thought we were past silly claims, Sakura. I could easily name you my next scumspect for the same reasons.

[MontyWhittaker]

Irish has pretty much won his way back into my good graces, but I am looking a bit more closely at Thor and Nekoko. Both for different reasons, obviously. Thor has made some intriguing plays when I look back at some of his previous games, and Nekoko has done a fantastic job of blending in and looking townish, which is the kind of people I hate.

PEdit: Now, now, TIP, we're just having a little fun, throwing out some names...no need to be so defensive.

[Sakura Hana]

and Nekoko has done a fantastic job of blending in and looking townish, which is the kind of people I hate.

Tho you were pretty much doing the same thing before by coming saying something and leaving again for a while

[TheIrishPope]

All fun comes to a close eventually... it seems Sakura is eager to end it fast.
I understand your suspicions. Nekoko's appearance and disappearance strikes me as odd. I did not think of checking Thor's games, will do that now what can you relate from his past games and this one?

[Sakura Hana]

What makes you think im eager to end it fast?, what im eager to get is a claim from Shawn

[Shawn]

I claimed vanilla town ages ago. LOL.

Thanks MM for outing yourself as scum, this game so ez.
Why is MM scum? She didnt comment on the Monty 'case' other than it was Information rather than analysis and throws it away because of that, without quoting anything. She then says that Monty has produced 'content' when he has no original thought so far this game. Even early, she FoS Monty but now monty seems townier than like 1/2 the thread(slight exaggeration but thats the feeling I get from that post).

Back to Monty. After my case, he delurked. Basically. And he only delurked in the face of pressure, clearly he doesnt care about finding scum but defending himself. Then he says he cant ask a specific question like 'Can you explain further your switch on read for Irish' or something like 'Do you still think Thor is scum?' But noooo he only asks, 'explain your initial reads on EVERYONE AND HOW THEY CHANGED'. Yeah Im not gonna answer that because you have no objective with that post. It seems like you want me to throw up some content and then attack small parts. Not actually try and find out what my alignment is.

[TheIrishPope]

Shawn! You're awake! Tell us about Commandodude's intent to hammer you.

[Shawn]

I think that all of you should stop putting bad ideas in the thread. tsk. Policy lynching a Vanilla townie is the absoultely worse thing you can do. Thats what you are proposing right? That you dont really think I will flip scum but because of certain interactions that are invalid cause im town, you wanna lynch me? Comment on Monty and why your vote is not on him, GOOO

[TheIrishPope]

Hmm.
I do believe you are scum. That's why I voted for you.
If you're town... play better next time.
Monty is hard to read. His intentions are good, but his actions are doubtful. The question is: do the ends justify the means?

[Sakura Hana]

If you're really hunting scum, then can you make a case on your scumspects Shawn? And for now
UNVOTE: Shawn
I'll leave my vote off you.

[MontyWhittaker]

Well, to answer your question, Shawn, the reason my vote is not on Monty is that my goal is to play to support my win condition. No matter what, a self-vote will not help in accomplishing that.

TIP, what do you mean, "do the ends justify the means"? What ends do you specifically object to?