Micro 162 - Poetic Justice Mafia (Justice is buldermar!)

[Minimal]

... Which can also be found in the OP

DCLXVI [2/5] - Human Destroyer, Majiffy
pirate mollie [1/5] - orcinus_theoriginal
Minimal [1/5] - DCLXVI
Mac [1/5] - Minimal
Majiffy [1/5] - buldermar

Abstained (Not Voting): pirate mollie, fferyllt, Mac

[fferyllt]

Anyway it doesn't sound like lynching either of you actually helps town... so I reckon we should leave you both alive and use your PRs to our advantage.

This is a townish thing to say.

[Minimal]

Uhh... I didn't say I wanted to be judged as two heads, I wanted to be judged as one head...

You are repeating sentiments of what others said here

The DCL case isn't just "he fos'd before voting Minimal! though orc. He has jumped onto the two wagons so far which was pointed out in #229. What do you make of the vote on Minimal with no reference to them prior to that?

Not only that, but putting it at L-1 too. It's opening up an opportunity for someone else to hammer with possibly legit reasoning for finding Minimal scummy whilst he sits back and let's it happen without providing any input.

Still need to read some shit as well, would like an answer to this question though.

Reading orc as pretty town right now, regardless.

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The DCL case isn't just "he fos'd before voting Minimal! though orc. He has jumped onto the two wagons so far which was pointed out in #229. What do you make of the vote on Minimal with no reference to them prior to that?

Not only that, but putting it at L-1 too. It's opening up an opportunity for someone else to hammer with possibly legit reasoning for finding Minimal scummy whilst he sits back and let's it happen without providing any input.

Still need to read some shit as well, would like an answer to this question though.

Reading orc as pretty town right now, regardless.

Whatever. I'm just going to stop addressing the DCL case but I still think it's shitty.

I think the vote on Minimal is perfectly justified given what I posted about them at the time. If you want, Fery and Majiffy both also sheeped me onto Minimal and you can vote them too.

Hi Mac wagon Buld with me he's scum in this game.

Yeah but you found it shitty because you thought it was based around x when it was actually based around x and y.

I don't think it was justified; when reading, I took Majiffy's vote as a joke personally and ff was sheeping, yes, but she said that was because she felt you were town. whereas DCL says nothing regarding anyone, before fos/voting. I don't think it's shitty at all.

I won't wagon buld at the moment. Sorry to disappoint. Is Minimal still scum?

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I think you're tunneling buld because I don't see any obvscum tells coming from him.

If you're going to be looking for obvscum tells, you won't find any in this game. We're all fairly decent players.

Who do you think is scum?

I'm not looking for obvscumtells, but you said he's obvscum and I'm saying I don't see it. What's making him obvscum?

If I had to choose right now, I'd say fferyll and possibly Minimal. fferyll seems very sitting-on-the-fence right now which isn't like her at all but she has said her head's not here at the moment, so I'll have to wait and see if this changes once she's fully here. Minimal has done a runner, despite having 2 heads to play with. Possibly letting the DCL wagon run as a distraction without commenting.

Pretty null on mollie and Majiffy at the moment. Leaning scum on DCL just for the play mentioned. HD seems town but it's a weak read... buldermar I can't tell either. I'm interested to see what you think makes him obvscum because I don't see it.

VOTE: Minimal.

and a few other places I believe.

So you don't have any other reasons to think that we are scum other then being inactive?

[fferyllt]

could someone read minimal's posts on the last 3 pages and tell me if you think they are coming from a town PoV? Actually...could everyone do that?

[Mac]

I thought one head was delibrately ignoring the thread: I was wrong. Makes me wonder why you'd sign up and not post, but wrong nonetheless.

Which part of those posts is copying someone else?

[Minimal]

I was reading similar points made by Buldemar, Jiffy, Mollie and HD I believe before you made those posts. It doesn't exactly copy them word for word, though the general idea is still there.

So your only reason for thinking that I am scum was due to the fact that one of us was avoiding the thread? It seemed to me that your read on me was somewhat strong, though to have that kind of strength it would have to be more than inactivity

[Mac]

Nope, my read was "possibly Minimal" - it was stronger on ff, and not that strong on you, but she had said her head wasn't in the game at that point.

[Mac]

Wait

wait

I was talking complete shit

Messiah has been posted; why not in here?

[buldermar]

ff, when did you become certain that I'm town and for what reason?

god it sucks when you have to ISO yourself. 583 is where I pointed up the post you made that pinged seriously town. You said it out loud. I knew why I didn't say it. And mollie neither saying it nor commenting when you said it told me she wasn't town. And it also told me that you were. Because those gears in the background sometimes do show up in in-game posts.

Alright. I did read that post, I was just wondering if there was more to it.

[buldermar]

Ok I just caught up and don't have a single fucking clue what is going on.

How the fuck can you have caught up and still not know what's going on?

[buldermar]

I don't think Jiffy is scum this game. I actually find him to be very trustworthy for some strange reason

this pings.

Yeah it looks bad, as I've already pointed out.

[buldermar]

my role PM mentions nothing about scum/mafia. Does the town role pm?

HOW SHOULD I KNOW?!

[buldermar]

Nope Fery, it says we win when all threats to town is dead and at least one player with this wincon is still alive

I just want to point out that this could have been gathered from the sample PM in the OP.

[buldermar]

... Which can also be found in the OP

... nvm I guess.

[Mac]

Ok I just caught up and don't have a single fucking clue what is going on.

How the fuck can you have caught up and still not know what's going on?

struggling to wrap my head round it. probably cos I'm ill, I'll reread when I'm feeling better.

[buldermar]

could someone read minimal's posts on the last 3 pages and tell me if you think they are coming from a town PoV? Actually...could everyone do that?

I did read all of them twice now, and I don't know. It's a lot of nothing.

[fferyllt]

could someone read minimal's posts on the last 3 pages and tell me if you think they are coming from a town PoV? Actually...could everyone do that?

I did read all of them twice now, and I don't know. It's a lot of nothing.

She's the only one (besides me*) who is talking about the game design.
- questioned whether a one shot day cop action would exist in 9P
- brought up 5-2 town scum
- seemed resistant to the idea that it could be a onesie - essentially an SK rather than a team

* "game design speculation" should be my middle name

[Minimal]

So you went to vote your weaker read then? that makes total sense :/

and Messiah has been posting as a mod, not as a player. I don't even know what he thinks about this game, or the other games I in with him

and you still don't address the fact that you called me out for lurking for not being here for naught but a couple hours

[pirate mollie]

Ok I just caught up and don't have a single fucking clue what is going on.

How the fuck can you have caught up and still not know what's going on?

struggling to wrap my head round it. probably cos I'm ill, I'll reread when I'm feeling better.

^this

stands ot

[fferyllt]

Because you're a little scumbutt
Short and stout
With your stupid night actions
And your ... fuck I can't think of anything of merit to rhyme with stout.

pout
flout
rout
doubt
shout
get out

[buldermar]

Poetic justice would be lynching Majiffy for his awful rimes.

[pirate mollie]

here is the kettle

here is the spout

[fferyllt]

really should be "get out"

[pirate mollie]

get out

[fferyllt]

no u