Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[Colonel Guile]

But now we know "caught-for-the-wrong-reason" is a really good scumtell.

I agree with this, but consider the two rage quits. How easily recognizable is this "Tell"? It was plainly obvious in KoC. His position was. "I can't play with DGB and Bacde because their arguments are illogical." That is clearer as a "Cuaght for the wrong reason" Tell. I've been through it too, but I did not replace out for it. Jokes on him that He is still in the game and his replacement didn't go through.
Majiffy's was different. DGB enters the game. Votes Majiffy. And Majiffy says disgruntenly that he does not wish to play with DGB. It comes to mind that he would have done the same whether DGB votes or not. So, Majiffy's rage quite is not the reason for his scumminess.

DGB

: Why did you vote for Majiffy at your entry post?

[Colonel Guile]

I particularly find it hard to believe that AN is Red Scum. I think Red-Nero wouldn't have defended him as hard as he did if he was going to flip red. He is either Orange or Town.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: Why did you vote for Majiffy at your entry post?

I wanted to tease him before actually reading the game. The guy has been known for dishing out heaping dump trucks of unprovoked abuse at me, you'd figure a big tough guy like that could take some ribbing from a nutty little old lady, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. If you give it in spades, you should be able to take a spoonful yourself.

The Majiffy/Rubicon slot is guaranteed scum from the wagon analysis.

The ragequit is a

secondary

reason and shouldn't be emphasized, but given Rubicon's comments, I would speculate that like KOC, this was scum ragequit. That's my personal opinion, you can have a different one, but his position on the wagons is that of scum, every day, every wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

I particularly find it hard to believe that AN is Red Scum. I think Red-Nero wouldn't have defended him as hard as he did if he was going to flip red. He is either Orange or Town.

Not town. Let's not get bogged down in color discussion other than for fun speculation.

[Mac]

If he was orange, he could've tied me and bork up together instead of me and GIF knowing bork would flip orange. But he tried to do it after bork flipped orange, because he didn't know.

Nero wasn't defending KoC for what it's worth, just not hammering

[Colonel Guile]

He had no way of knowning that Bork will die. Hence why he did not link you to him until he fliped.

The likelyhood of AN being scum is high. So is Rubicon's. In that we agree.

[Angelious Nero]

AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?

I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.

Looking at Guile's beautiful work of art, I'd go as far as saying that Angelious Nero stands out the most. It's virtually impossible for this slot to be town.

So when I flip not-mafia, can they kill you?

Nero wasn't defending KoC for what it's worth, just not hammering

show me the post where I refused to hammer? I prob did say that I didn't want to hammer yet but that =//=refusing to hammer.

He had no way of knowning that Bork will die. Hence why he did not link you to him until he fliped.

Although I'm agreeing with scum...this.

And its not like I even voted for GIF. I thought GIF was pretty townie but the way you were voting + soft attacking made me wonder if I was wrong. This whole "U DIDN'T TIE ME TO BORK!!!" when Bork hadn't flipped yet sounds like scum pissed off that I now have.

DGB, pretend for the moment that I'm not scum (I'm not but I don't see anyway to convince you.) What do you think of my push on Mac?

[Angelious Nero]

AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?

I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.

Looking at Guile's beautiful work of art, I'd go as far as saying that Angelious Nero stands out the most. It's virtually impossible for this slot to be town.

So when I flip not-mafia, can they kill you?

Nero wasn't defending KoC for what it's worth, just not hammering

show me the post where I refused to hammer? I prob did say that I didn't want to hammer yet but that =//=refusing to hammer.

He had no way of knowning that Bork will die. Hence why he did not link you to him until he fliped.

Although I'm agreeing with scum...this.

And its not like I even voted for GIF. I thought GIF was pretty townie but the way you were voting + soft attacking made me wonder if I was wrong. This whole "U DIDN'T TIE ME TO BORK!!!" when Bork hadn't flipped yet sounds like scum pissed off that I now have.

DGB, pretend for the moment that I'm not scum (I'm not but I don't see anyway to convince you.) What do you think of my push on Mac?

[Rubicon]

It will surprise absolutely no one that I'm down for lynching Nero.

Ta-da.

The keypoint about the whole line of reasoning is that Rubicon, if Rubicon were town, should have deemed ragequitting as NULL, not as TOWN.

The entire post's purpose is to pain ragequitting as TOWN. Calling KOC's ragequit post "100% accurate" is a manipulative statement, tying both KOC and Majiffy, who sorta quit for similar reasons, as very strongly town for their gesture.

You're misrepresenting my argument. Please don't do that.

My town read on KoC wasn't that he ragequit and that's a town tell -- it was about the

context

of his ragequit. Which notably applied to KoC but not majiffy. Since KoC's posts were reasonable and accurate, he struck me as both town and (more importantly) not retarded, so him doing something that would be retarded as scum was evidence against him being scum.

QED, motherfucker.

(Obviously I was wrong in hindsight, but whatever, it happens.)

I don't understand what you're saying about "sabotaging" the lynch. I'd defend myself against wagon analysis but I don't understand wagon analysis.

[DrippingGoofball]

he likelyhood of AN being scum is high. So is Rubicon's. In that we agree.

Good job on nailing KOC yesterday, BTW.

[DrippingGoofball]

What do you think of my push on Mac?

Objectively, we need to lynch you and Rubicon first.

I scanned the colored wagons again and there is no way that Rubicon is town. No. Way.

As for you, there are 7 players on the Messiah wagon, and you are the only unflipped player. That's pretty damning regardless of Messiah's alignment. Your only way out, and it's not even sure-fire, is if we have a scum flip on Messiah. Even then.

You should be making mega-cases on Messiah right now. GO GO GO

[Colonel Guile]

AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?

I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.

False.

We had 2 kills on Night 1, 1 kill on Night 2, and 4 kills on Night 3.

Try again.

[Colonel Guile]

Nero wasn't defending KoC for what it's worth, just not hammering

show me the post where I refused to hammer? I prob did say that I didn't want to hammer yet but that =//=refusing to hammer.

"show me the post where I" is one of my favorite scum tells, for the record.

[Colonel Guile]

He had no way of knowning that Bork will die. Hence why he did not link you to him until he fliped.

Although I'm agreeing with scum...this.

Oh no u di' 'int guuuurl

-snaps fingers in a Z-

[Angelious Nero]

AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?

I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.

False.

We had 2 kills on Night 1, 1 kill on Night 2, and 4 kills on Night 3.

Try again.

You're right about night 2. Night 3 I assumed it was some time of lovers type mechanic.

[Colonel Guile]

Yes. Two scum teams both hit independent lover pairs, causing two Romeo + Juliet scenarios. That's super believable.





Try again, homeboy.

[Angelious Nero]

And 3 Carmine boys all dying in three different shots is just mere happenstance.

[Angelious Nero]

vote: AN

Everyone seems convinced that I'm mafia and I don't see anyway to convince folks that I'm not. Therefore, I'd be a liability in LYLO and my mislynch would be much better served today then later.

Mac
Guile
MS
^
^
scum

[Colonel Guile]

And 3 Carmine boys all dying in three different shots is just mere happenstance.

That was hilarious as fuck tbh.

vote: AN

Everyone seems convinced that I'm mafia and I don't see anyway to convince folks that I'm not. Therefore, I'd be a liability in LYLO and my mislynch would be much better served today then later.

Mac
Guile
MS
^
^
scum

I'm not scum. Mac's probably not scum. Why is Ms Marangal scum?

[Colonel Guile]

If I hit KoC can we get Nero tomorrow?

if KoC is scum, sure

if not then tomorrow is gonna be one big ball of crazy

just gonna drop this here

[Ms Marangal]

VOTE: Qwints

He works fine as Red, but he would make pretty decent orange scum

[Angelious Nero]

If I hit KoC can we get Nero tomorrow?

if KoC is scum, sure

if not then tomorrow is gonna be one big ball of crazy

just gonna drop this here

test dem waters more scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Qwints

He works fine as Red, but he would make pretty decent orange scum

Meh.

We'll nail the minor scum after we nail the major scum AN or Rubicon.

VOTE: Rubicon

[Ms Marangal]

I don't think AN is scum. their reactions with Bork, and with all the flipped reds don't match up to how scum interact with buddies in any way shape or form

[The Goat]

I hate this.

I HATE this.

I might have been wrong the entire damn time.

That pisses me off. Almost as much as DGB being staggeringly wrong about me...but she was right about KOC. I was wrong.

vote Rubicon.

I would really like to hear from Messiah before we proceed.