Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[Shawn]

Also if you're a ML like it seems, then that means at D3 we will be at LyLo if ML happens on D2, don't think we can afford to many risks at this point.

So you lynch down that list. Its not risky. Monty is confirmed scum with that hammer. MM close behind.

[Sakura Hana]

MM didnt vote you until i had unvoted, do you think she would have hammered you at that point if i hadn't unvoted?

[Shawn]

MM didnt vote you until i had unvoted, do you think she would have hammered you at that point if i hadn't unvoted?

Nope, i dont think MM wouldve hammered. Way too suspicious.

[Sakura Hana]

Well guess my unvoting brought some interesting stuff.

[Commandodude]

UNVOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: Thor665

He hasn't been posting recently and he was first to start accusing shawn, now that shawn pretty much flipped town, I suspect Thor.

[Sakura Hana]

Eh that vote's useless because D2 hasn't begun yet.

[Ms Marangal]

Uhh...

No, because my stance on him switched with that post I had mentioned

and I don't think Shawn has flipped town yet... I still feel like there is a chance of him flipping scum

[Ms Marangal]

and I

totally

wouldn't have switched from a hard-defending stance stating that I wouldn't place my vote on you to placing you on L-1 if I didn't have good reason and doing so

doesn't

place a shit load of pressure on me

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.21 - Final D1 Votecount

(5)

Shawn

- Thor665, Nekoko, TheIrishPope, Ms Marangal, MontyWhittaker
(1)

Commandodude

- sycorax
(1)

MontyWhittaker

- Shawn

(0)

TheIrishPope

-

(Ms Marangal)

(1)

No Lynch

- Commandodude

(1)

Not voting

-

(MontyWhittaker,)

Sakura Hana

Shawn,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched.

Night 1 starts now.

Night will last 72 hours.
The deadline for night is April 29 at 2:15 PM PST. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-04-29 14:15:00)

[Tierce]

Sakura Hana,

Doctor

, has died.

Day 2 starts now.

Votecount 2.0

(7)

Not voting

- Commandodude, MontyWhittaker, Ms Marangal, Nekoko, sycorax, TheIrishPope, Thor665

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The deadline is May 13 at 5:55 PM PDT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-05-13 17:55:00)

[Ms Marangal]

V/LA until tuesday

I think I might be wrong about Commando

[Thor665]

Meh.

Vote: Irish Pope

[TheIrishPope]

Crap, my strongest town read was on Sakura.
sycorax and Nekoko seem cleared to me. sycorax is actively scumhunting and contributing immensely to the game. She also looks for doubtful posts and gives insight to the thread overall. Nekoko is playing aggressively, which might be the push we need for the real scum to come out. However, her lack of posts does trouble me. Nekoko, you are about 70% town, so don't screw with my trust.
Marangal and Monty are my strongest scum reads. Monty lurks way too much and is not really contributing to the game... I want to see more posts, more actions. Marangal uses sarcasm to deviate attention away from herself, and writes a lot but is known for hopping into BWs, presumably to blend in. She mainly asks questions, but only contributes occasionally in the game. They are both people I want to look further into.
Thor is null-scum to me, because he pushed Shawn who

conveniently

flipped VT, and uses MM's sarcasm bit. PEdit: and he votes for me on accounts of "Meh."
Commandodude was defended by Shawn, but Shawn flipped town so I'm letting him be.

TL;DR: sycorax, Nekoko, Commandodude, Thor, Marangal, Monty -- from towniest to scummiest
VOTE: MontyWhittaker

[Commandodude]

God, where is that cop???

[Ms Marangal]

You know, if me and Monty are the scum-team, it would be a whole lot smarter to vote for me IMO. Active scum are far more dangerous then Lurking scum.

and I jumped onto one bandwagon... and I only voted like, twice. I'm hardly vote-hopping and when I was voting you, I was the only one on you...

[TheIrishPope]

We don't know if there is a cop, Commando.
I did NOT say you and Monty are scum team. I did not say vote hopping (for example, Shawn), I said joining existing BWs.
Where are your suspicions, MM?

[MontyWhittaker]

In which I examine TIP's ISO in an attempt to figure out his motives and such

This is my first game too, I will also need help from the IC.

Right off the bat, you post quite needily. For someone who has made such a stink about not being called a newb, this is an interesting move.

I have my Hand of Suspicion aimed at Shawn. He seems so innocent. Real scumtell.

I will come back to this, but keep it in your mind.

Who would you say is the most scummiest? (This question goes for everyone.)

Besides your frightful grammar in this post, I wonder at the utter uselessness of this question. People have been theoretically telling you and everyone else in the thread who they consider the most scummy. Why not just ask those you want more information from...

D1 Lynch: Commandodude
D2 Lynch: Shawn

Ooh. Great ideas. Neither one of which do you follow up on, by the way.

So, if I am acting town, I should be lynched? According to you, I express this sentiment in all of my posts. Please, go ahead and quote them all. I'll wait.
My motive is the same. I want to eradicate scum.

Remember that post earlier where Irish said that acting town is a scumtell? Notice how he changes his tune when he is the one being attacked for the same reason.

Posting from my phone, I agree with your logic.
UNVOTE: Commandodude
VOTE: Shawn

L-1. Gonna fakeclaim a PR, Shawny boy?

First off, it is good to realize that posting from your phone somehow gives you a different outlook on life.

Well, it would seem to me we are at a crossroads. I will stay neutral for a while, given I have voted for the most obvious scum and people still see me as scum.
Also, if we do lynch Shawn and he flips town, remember I voted for Commandodude, and don't make up things.

UNVOTE: Shawn

Ooh...look at the scum trying to cover himself. Isn't that cute? Don't worry, TIP, nothing is being made up.

Shawn and Sakura now love each other. And share the same word, fascinating. Interesting. I thought scum didn't have daytalk
Sakura, what would you consider contribution? Everyone is claiming Town, that's the point of the game, so I don't see what's weird about me stating it.
Shawn, I am not saying you are scum. That's why I put a percentage. I am saying you look like scum, you act like scum, but I am open to different options.

Sorry, just referencing that same post we looked at earlier. Does he look like town or scum, make up your mind...Fortunately, we have a percentage...nice. Now we know that a completely arbitrary number you just made up is one of the sole bases you are using to make your vote.

Me: If someone claims VT, we should lynch him. If he is scum, perfect! If he is town, no PRs were lost and we gain more information on either case. <----- I read this somewhere (probably the wiki) but I can't find it now.

Yeah, let's lynch all the Vanilla Townies. That will lead to an instant town win. #scumtell

Of course I will be suspicious if someone hammers without a good case. Everyone who has voted for Shawn has expressed their case completely and thoroughly, so it would be weird if the last vote came rapidly and without a base.

See, but the difference is, a good case had been established, and a base was put forth by the hammering vote, so what you are saying holds little water.

Crap, my strongest town read was on Sakura.
Marangal and Monty are my strongest scum reads. Monty lurks way too much and is not really contributing to the game... I want to see more posts, more actions.
VOTE: MontyWhittaker

Anyone can claim townreads after the fact...

My playstyle is my own, and I believe you will find that it is consistent. I do not have the abundant time the rest of you have. I have a full high school course load, two jobs, and some college work. If my posting quantity doesn't meet your expectations, I apologize, TheIrishScum.

With that established,

VOTE: TheIrishPope

[MontyWhittaker]

Hmmm...did not mean to format it like that. I thought

would put it into a nice box, not black it out like that. Forgive me that, if you would.

[TheIrishPope]

OMGUS much?
If you had limited time, you shouldn't have singed up for a game in which you need dedication.
Scum motivation behind any and all actions?

[Tierce]

Votecount 2.1

(1)

TheIrishPope

- Thor665, MontyWhittaker
(1)

MontyWhittaker

- TheIrishPope

(4)

Not voting

- Commandodude,

(MontyWhittaker,)

Ms Marangal, Nekoko, sycorax,

(TheIrishPope, Thor665)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The deadline is May 13 at 5:55 PM PDT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-05-13 17:55:00)

[Ms Marangal]

Where are your suspicions, MM?

why? I'm pretty sure I stated a good amount of my reads yesterday, and they havn't changed much though why are you so interested in who I think is scum/town?

[TheIrishPope]

Well, a townie was lynched and Doc died, so you might have new suspicions.

[Thor665]

I actually think that is the most sensible thing IrishPope has said all game.

[MontyWhittaker]

OMGUS much?
If you had limited time, you shouldn't have singed up for a game in which you need dedication.
Scum motivation behind any and all actions?

As I said, my playstyle is my own. Just because I am not posting in the quantities that you would prefer does not imply a scum or town specific alignment.

Clarify your final question, if you would. Are you asking if there is scum motivation behind all my actions or yours?

[Nekoko]

I don't get it TheIrishPope. You were suspecting me the whole time in Day 1 but now you think I'm cleared.