Micro 162 - Poetic Justice Mafia (Justice is buldermar!)

[pirate mollie]

HD - participation level scares me a little

This I agree with.

only that?

I believe it should be obvious that I agree on the rest as well from my previous posts.

I thought you agreed with most of it, though I think your read of orcinus is influenced by mine. My read of Minimal is influenced by orcinus. And my read of Mac is influenced by you.

This is a weird game. I've never played with no avenue (however remote) for winning before, but I in essence lost the game before it started due to my night action choices. The crater where motivation is supposed to be seriously disrupts my thoughts about the game.

I can understand this, and if you actually are an assassin I really do appreciate that you're still caring enough to even check the game. And to be fair, you're still contributing way more than several other players in this game, so I don't think anyone could rightfully complain - even disregarding the fact that you don't have a shot at winning, according to yourself.

you are falling for it again buldey. she is fucking manipulating you. I am telling you she is lying about something.

Mac [2/5] - Minimal, orcinus_theoriginal
buldermar [2/5] - DCLXVI, Majiffy
Majiffy [2/5] - fferyllt, buldermar
DCLXVI [1/5] - Human Destroyer

Abstained (Not Voting): pirate mollie, Mac

[fferyllt]

doc protect doesn't protect us from each other.

It's like you don't understand your role. You didn't know track/watch was dual. There is no question in my mind that we got the same role PM. Maybe it's just too complicated to keep straight. I've had that problem a couple times.

[pirate mollie]

It pissed me off that you were asking stuff that was answered on the same page as your question. I've cooled off (again - you pissed me off on Sunday too). Please just stop.

lol, you always pull this "you have pissed me off" when you are lying about something. you have never done it as town or indie. I actually told you what I thought of majiffy several pages back yet you kept saying I didn't answer it. you don't usually miss shit like that and I think you were pretending in order to manipulate the situation to your advantage

[pirate mollie]

doc protect doesn't protect us from each other.

It's like you don't understand your role. You didn't know track/watch was dual. There is no question in my mind that we got the same role PM. Maybe it's just too complicated to keep straight. I've had that problem a couple times.

it does not say anything about a protection in our role pm, what are you smoking. it just says if we target town nothing happens. it says nothing about what happens when town targets us

[Majiffy]

Mollie why are you raising such a stink? She obviously knew more about your role PM than she would have if she wasn't what she says she is.

And I have not

been

a scum rolecop, but I've seen them.

[fferyllt]

Not lying. I did hope that there was some slight chance I could get you lynched day 2 in exchange for doing what I could for town. I kept that thought on Sunday. But, doing the math, I realized that even if town players wanted to do that, they don't have the margin for error.

So, I'm still in the game, but I have no viable path to my win condition. I find trying to win *with* town to be a powerful motivator. That's not an option here.

p-edit

yes it does it says that even if we are protected it doesn't work against each other's kill.

It's in the backstab description iirc.

[fferyllt]

Mollie if you don't know what a strongman kill is then read the wiki. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Strongman

[pirate mollie]

Not lying. I did hope that there was some slight chance I could get you lynched day 2 in exchange for doing what I could for town. I kept that thought on Sunday. But, doing the math, I realized that even if town players wanted to do that, they don't have the margin for error.

So, I'm still in the game, but I have no viable path to my win condition. I find trying to win *with* town to be a powerful motivator. That's not an option here.

p-edit

yes it does it says that even if we are protected it doesn't work against each other's kill.

It's in the backstab description iirc.

and here is the lie. I just double checked

and no it doesn't mention anything about a protection.

[fferyllt]

STRONGMAN. read the fucking wiki.

[fferyllt]

I accept your apology.

[pirate mollie]

STRONGMAN. read the fucking wiki.

obviously I didn't see the link before I posted little miss drama queen! the only one who has engaged in theatrics is you. I apologise that the idea that you might lose (I still think you picked backstab) makes you turn into this super scummy player! also I apologise for not letting you bully me into doing what you want me to do!

I just never expected you to be this petty or childish. my bad.

[pirate mollie]

there is also the biggest spider in the world over by the bookshelves and it keeps

glaring

at me. I usually leave them alone cos they are like self-sufficient bug control worker slaves but this is pretty intimidating

[fferyllt]

I just never expected you to be this petty or childish. my bad.

Explain.

I try to keep my head in the game, and kinda get there at times, until you sweep in and post tons of crap about me and call me a liar about stuff that is IN OUR ROLE PM. And then you get pissy because I don't want to talk to you.

We could both be trying to help town today.

[Majiffy]

there is also the biggest spider in the world over by the bookshelves and it keeps

glaring

at me.

Don't take any guff from these mutherfucking swine.

[pirate mollie]

I just never expected you to be this petty or childish. my bad.

Explain.

I try to keep my head in the game, and kinda get there at times, until you sweep in and post tons of crap about me and call me a liar about stuff that is IN OUR ROLE PM. And then you get pissy because I don't want to talk to you.

We could both be trying to help town today.

I was trying to work with you when

you

came into the thread and threw mud at me and started banging on about how I could not be trusted and all sorts of crap. and then you get pissy when I react it to it and think you are lying about something.

I have been helping town. like I said, I was trying to pull buldey, mac and orc into a town mind meld. felt better about minimal and said so. I am pretty sure my vote is on scum. I worked this out freaking pages ago and said so! so don't you dare say that I have not helped town.

[fferyllt]

I have a null read on Mac. Buldermar pulls him up to leaning town.

Buldermar and Orcinus have opposite reads on DCL, which is why I'm looking for a compromise. I hope they'll work together better tomorrow.

[fferyllt]

Your read on Majiffy is nullish. It was your read on Majiffy not flipping to scum when your axis changed that freaked me out about you on Sunday.

[Majiffy]

Maybe it didn't flip because I'm not scum.

[pirate mollie]

I have a null read on Mac. Buldermar pulls him up to leaning town.

Buldermar and Orcinus have opposite reads on DCL, which is why I'm looking for a compromise. I hope they'll work together better tomorrow.

orc is smart enough to come around and listen to dah womynz

[fferyllt]

Maybe it didn't flip because I'm not scum.

she had you as a potential assassin when she thought I was scum. You went from potential assassin to something nullish and that didn't make sense on the face of it.

The DCL wagon isn't going to go anywhere before a replacement is found. It's a chance to sort other players, and you are at the top of my "needs sorting" list.

[Majiffy]

Well, you've had 52 pages so far. Why don't you start trying?

[Minimal]

I'll be back when this games isn't a fight on who is and isn't right.

[Majiffy]

... Welcome to Mafia?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'll be back when this games isn't a fight on who is and isn't right.

What the fuck?

Alright you know what I just really want to see a flip at this point. My reads are muddled as fuck and I don't see anything productive coming out of this day.

Can we please just agree on someone and get a wagon going somewhere

[fferyllt]

Well, you've had 52 pages so far. Why don't you start trying?

during my drive home I thought about this. 52 pages, relatively little conflict-based interaction, and not much likelihood of more given that I am all but sorted.

I have a scum read on you. The question is whether it's an accurate read and whether I'd recognize if it's not accurate.