Micro 170 - Empking Mafia

[Empking]

Vote Count 2

Hiraki (2) - JacobSavage, Nero Cain
The Acting Method (1) - Hiraki
Varsoon (1) - The Acting Method

Not Voting:ArcAngel9, Varsoon, orozorro

(expired on 2013-05-07 03:28:24)

[Nero Cain]

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Varsoon might be scum, idk....complaining about activity while not really saying anything to further discussion?

[Varsoon]

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Varsoon might be scum, idk....complaining about activity while not really saying anything to further discussion?

It's more along the lines of the idea that there's just seven players and they're not incredibly active so far. I'm just as guilty of this as you guys are. Yeah, it's RVS, but things can be said.

For instance,

In post 13, TAM's mention of linking the scum team via flavor seems like a weak way to put an argument on town. I'm much more on the side of Hiraki in holding that the game should just be played like a traditional mafia setup. To inject speculation on flavor seems like it's inviting too much RVS speculation without really cutting at who is scum or not based on play.

or perhaps I should speculate on Nero's post 15, which postures itself as scum by setting up a policy lynch and using the word 'kill'.

Maybe I should be more critical of the post I'm responding to, given that you suspect me as scum but don't put a vote there and seem to be trying to see town's reaction to what you've said rather than asking me directly about my posts.

Regardless, coming up with a hard case on someone with so little content is laughable, and will lead to mislynches. If town's going to win this, then town needs to be active. We have six days. Let's make the most of them, and give each other lots of content in order to better judge each other's alignment. Scum would prefer for town to do nothing for the next six days and make a lynch based on very little information. I'd rather give them that pleasure.

[Varsoon]

But that's why I don't do RVS. It's too much baseless speculation and, ultimately, amounts to reaction testing.

[Hiraki]

It's more along the lines of the idea that there's just seven players and they're not incredibly active so far. I'm just as guilty of this as you guys are. Yeah, it's RVS, but things can be said.

I'm super glad you checked that everyone else posted frequently yesterday.

Unvote, Vote: Varsoon

This is scum trying to act helpful.

[Varsoon]

It's more along the lines of the idea that there's just seven players and they're not incredibly active so far. I'm just as guilty of this as you guys are. Yeah, it's RVS, but things can be said.

I'm super glad you checked that everyone else posted frequently yesterday.

Unvote, Vote: Varsoon

This is scum trying to act helpful.

Six players posted out of seven, and most of the posts were RVS vote parking and speculation.

Just trying to take the game into a direction, although I don't like how fast my wagon is building. Hiraki, do you feel pressure to start a new wagon up since yours is at 2 votes coming out of RVS?

[ArcAngel9]

Maybe AA/TAM?

VOTE: Nero

[Nero Cain]

Say what, bro? Just 'cause things are said in early game=//=RVS. The whole point of the game (atleast from a town perspective) is to give opinions and thoughts that will hopefully find scum and convince others to lynch scum.

Regardless, coming up with a hard case on someone with so little content is laughable, and will lead to mislynches. If town's going to win this, then town needs to be active. We have six days. Let's make the most of them, and give each other lots of content in order to better judge each other's alignment. Scum would prefer for town to do nothing for the next six days and make a lynch based on very little information. I'd rather give them that pleasure.

This seems hypocritical to me. Someone has to speculate to start the game, if we don't speculate then nothing gets accomplished. We can't give content if we don't speculate 'cause that's all content really is, thoughts and opinions on the others alignments.

[Nero Cain]

Say what, bro? Just 'cause things are said in early game=//=RVS. The whole point of the game (atleast from a town perspective) is to give opinions and thoughts that will hopefully find scum and convince others to lynch scum.

Regardless, coming up with a hard case on someone with so little content is laughable, and will lead to mislynches. If town's going to win this, then town needs to be active. We have six days. Let's make the most of them, and give each other lots of content in order to better judge each other's alignment. Scum would prefer for town to do nothing for the next six days and make a lynch based on very little information. I'd rather give them that pleasure.

This seems hypocritical to me. Someone has to speculate to start the game, if we don't speculate then nothing gets accomplished. We can't give content if we don't speculate 'cause that's all content really is, thoughts and opinions on the others alignments.

[Nero Cain]

Maybe AA/TAM?

VOTE: Nero

Total OMGUS!!! I don't care if Mastin noms you for rising star, you still blow.

[Hiraki]

Mastin really did that?

Sheesh. I deserve a scummy then.

[Nero Cain]

pft. scummies and titles are all popularity.

[Nero Cain]

A varsoon/TAM team makes some sense too.

[Hiraki]

I'm much more confident in Varsoon.

TAM has been busy lately.

[Nero Cain]

I'd like to hear more from Varsoon. I also want to hear from Angel and obvious alt orozorro or w/e.

[Nero Cain]

I'd like to hear more from Varsoon. I also want to hear from Angel and obvious alt orozorro or w/e.

[Nero Cain]

I'd like to hear more from Varsoon. I also want to hear from Angel and obvious alt orozorro or w/e.

[ArcAngel9]

Maybe AA/TAM?

VOTE: Nero

Total OMGUS!!! I don't care if Mastin noms you for rising star, you still blow.

Its called RVS OMGUS Nero...
Well, the thing is that you haven't seen my play when I am on full speed. That's what it means Rising star babes...

[Hiraki]

Well, the thing is that you haven't seen my play when I am on full speed.

Yeah, about that.

[ArcAngel9]

It's more along the lines of the idea that there's just seven players and they're not incredibly active so far. I'm just as guilty of this as you guys are. Yeah, it's RVS, but things can be said.

I'm super glad you checked that everyone else posted frequently yesterday.

Unvote, Vote: Varsoon

This is scum trying to act helpful.

Six players posted out of seven, and most of the posts were RVS vote parking and speculation.

Just trying to take the game into a direction, although I don't like how fast my wagon is building. Hiraki, do you feel pressure to start a new wagon up since yours is at 2 votes coming out of RVS?

Why do you think it is necessary to move out from RVS on page 2 itself, like you said not all the players aren't here yet.. What's the hurry...
I understand your disappointment about your early wagon but if you realize that it is you who pushed for it..

[ArcAngel9]

Well, the thing is that you haven't seen my play when I am on full speed.

Yeah, about that.

I have a deal for your Hiraki?

[Nero Cain]

Maybe AA/TAM?

VOTE: Nero

Total OMGUS!!! I don't care if Mastin noms you for rising star, you still blow.

Its called RVS OMGUS Nero...
Well, the thing is that you haven't seen my play when I am on

full

speed.

FIFY!!!

[Nero Cain]

Maybe AA/TAM?

VOTE: Nero

Total OMGUS!!! I don't care if Mastin noms you for rising star, you still blow.

Its called RVS OMGUS Nero...
Well, the thing is that you haven't seen my play when I am on

full

speed.

FIFY!!!

[Varsoon]

I'd like to hear more from Varsoon. I also want to hear from Angel and obvious alt orozorro or w/e.

Lemme know what you'd like to know.
I know it seems a bit hypocritical to say that RVS is a lot of speculation and reaction mining while I was doing just that, but, honestly, I'm trying my best to get some worthwhile discussion started.

It's more along the lines of the idea that there's just seven players and they're not incredibly active so far. I'm just as guilty of this as you guys are. Yeah, it's RVS, but things can be said.

I'm super glad you checked that everyone else posted frequently yesterday.

Unvote, Vote: Varsoon

This is scum trying to act helpful.

Six players posted out of seven, and most of the posts were RVS vote parking and speculation.

Just trying to take the game into a direction, although I don't like how fast my wagon is building. Hiraki, do you feel pressure to start a new wagon up since yours is at 2 votes coming out of RVS?

Why do you think it is necessary to move out from RVS on page 2 itself, like you said not all the players aren't here yet.. What's the hurry...
I understand your disappointment about your early wagon but if you realize that it is you who pushed for it..

The hurry lies in the fact that we've got less than a week to make a lynch, and I'd like it to have as much content to go off of as possible. I suppose it stems from the last few games I've been in where town did nothing until the deadline, then ran around like chickens with their heads cut off, accusing everyone until a bad wagon was pushed and town got flipped. I can understand it happening once, but several times across multiple games? That's not cool. I'd like our game to be one that isn't so disorganized, chaotic, and easily guided by scum.

[ArcAngel9]

^ how do we don't know that you're scum and want to look like that you're trying to organize it?
doing soemthing is okay but overdoing is scummy...