Micro 164: Epic Mafia (Game Over)

[JacobSavage]

How do you have different tells for traitors?

[JacobSavage]

How do you have different tells for traitors?

[Jake from State Farm]

What the tell is

And gif is posted a ton of posts on site since his last post here not to mention he's the lowest poster aside from the replacement. he's lurking and is scum, he just may not be mafia.

Fuzzy should be lynched too but mainly policy reasons, no bearing on actual alignment.

[Rob14]

Already answered your question about Pirate, Bubba. Before you asked it, actually. Check my last post.

Random GIF wagon is actually pretty good, and Jake is good for voting in that direction. I hadn't noticed the lurk at all. Lurking in one game while actively posting in another is scummy beyond belief. I would be okay with this as a deadline lynch.

Vote: GIF

Speaking of deadline, it's in like two days. I will not be around for the next two days very much, as I have a major test tomorrow and a quiz on Friday that is really important to my overall grade in that particular course. I'll try to check in at least once a day, though.

P-edit: Jake: "he's lurking and is scum, he just may not be mafia."

Definitely scum, might not be mafia....when did this game spontaneously turn into multiball? I'm genuinely confused here - can you explain your meaning?

[fuzzybutternut]

He basically said rob is a traitor because he refused to explain his reasoning on something.

[bubbajack8]

Fuzzy, quit defending the traitor, it makes you look EXTREMELY scummy. Rob is traitor, move on.

GiF's not posting is scummy, but I don't see a mafia reason to not post right now.

Fuzzy's defending the traitor, so I would agree.

current votecount?

P:edit; I've already explained it, you could try reading the game.

[Jake from State Farm]

Someone has it as a sig

"I always lynch scum, sometimes they just happen to be town"

Or something like that.

Basically his play is anti-town, he's scum for lurking, but since town lurk also it's still possible he's town.

[Rob14]

There's always a scum motivation to not post if town is not targeting you and no one's calling you out on it. It makes you less prominent and less likely to be lynched. Especially true if town is fighting amongst themselves.

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy, quit defending the traitor, it makes you look EXTREMELY scummy. Rob is traitor, move on.

GiF's not posting is scummy, but I don't see a mafia reason to not post right now.

Fuzzy's defending the traitor, so I would agree.

current votecount?

P:edit; I've already explained it, you could try reading the game.

Notice you're the only one calling him a traitor?

@Mod- Do scum know who the traitors are? I know they don't in EM, but I don't know about here.

[Jake from State Farm]

I can see rob being traitor. He's not really trying to take charge. He has waffled on me most of the game but doesn't really want to lynch me. If he's traitor he's in for a treat when he realizes I'm not actually scum.

[bubbajack8]

Still I think mafia would want to post and try to get into the cluster fuck of the game to add more confusion.

P:edit scum doesn't know traitors, been discussed earlier. Once again Fuzzy, actually read.

[fuzzybutternut]

I didn't notice it. I've done that as town. It's not an alignment tell, so stop trying to make it one.

[JacobSavage]

Also I'm new to EM science but what is the difference between scum motivation and traitor motivation?

[Jake from State Farm]

Traitor needs to not be killed by mafia but not lynched by town and to also not lynch scum

[fuzzybutternut]

IIRC they both have the same wincon, they just don't have night talk.

[bubbajack8]

I didn't notice it. I've done that as town. It's not an alignment tell, so stop trying to make it one.

Not reading is scummy.

Also I'm new to EM science but what is the difference between scum motivation and traitor motivation?

Not sure how to answer this.

Scum wants to kill everyone except traitor.

Traitor wants to find scum

What Rob did was basically tell everyone he is traitor.

Traitor needs to not be killed by mafia but not lynched by town and to also not lynch scum

Much better

[fuzzybutternut]

I did read. I overlooked it, smart ass.

[bubbajack8]

And you overlooked the conversation about Rob being traitor? That's too much to simply "overlook"

[fuzzybutternut]

You were being ignorant about it.

It was literally "He's traitor because I say so. 100%. No questions asked."

[Rob14]

I can see rob being traitor. He's not really trying to take charge. He has waffled on me most of the game but doesn't really want to lynch me. If he's traitor he's in for a treat when he realizes I'm not actually scum.

If you don't think that I was trying to take charge of the game early on, then I question whether we're in the same game. My aggressive push on rmp followed by my aggressive push on bubba. Remember those?

Half the time you look very town, the other half you look very scum to me. I think the scum bits are a playstyle difference, at this point. Not entirely sure on that, though. I'll sort it out later after Bubba's been lynched, since he's basically confscum in my eyes.

[Jake from State Farm]

yeah, you only really pushed hard on bubba, who's pretty close to my top read, and the people who are scummy you have tried to avoid.

[Piratecat]

What the tell is

And gif is posted a ton of posts on site since his last post here not to mention he's the lowest poster aside from the replacement. he's lurking and is scum, he just may not be mafia.

Fuzzy should be lynched too but mainly policy reasons, no bearing on actual alignment.

okay you did not answer jacob's question here do you realise that

and if I am not mistaken, traitor's count for town parity that is why they should not fight their lynch at all <----- traitor motivation. the best traitor play is give as much info to scum and stir as much wifom as they can while going down. this is where fakeclaiming really works and that is why I am of the opinion that town should not do fake-claim ever.

rob is not a traitor, if he is he is the worst traitor ever. that you are even trying to push this ridiculous idea is phenomenal and pretty much reaffirms my scum read on you unless you really don't understand the role.

[Jake from State Farm]

okay you did not answer jacob's question here do you realise that

I was actually responding to post 724, it didn't tell me that Jacob had posted so I could not p.edit

[Rob14]

Why do you think Bubba is town Jake?

[Jake from State Farm]

rob is not a traitor, if he is he is the worst traitor ever. that you are even trying to push this ridiculous idea is phenomenal and pretty much reaffirms my scum read on you unless you really don't understand the role.

I'm not pushing him being a traitor, I just said I could see the possibility of him being a traitor. get your facts straight

p.edit - already covered this, please - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Ctr+f and search "bubba is town" and you shall find your answer