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If I assumed that I could be able to shoot

anyone

, I would shoot myself. I haven't been helpful very much and need to be more actively scumhunting. If I couldn't shoot myself then I would have No Action.

This is assuming that the vigilante wouldn't be killed in this process, i.e. I either wasn't the vigilante or the role passed to someone else.

What the sincerest fuck. Why would you shot someone you know is town?

For real, what is this? I am defending you and you drop this crap.

[Desperado]

Everything I said in #502 applies to #s 519 and 520 in spades.

[GoodCopBadCop]

@Skull

Ferret's reaction has me thinking that he's probably Town. Seemed genuinely confused about the sudden wagon, so either he's legitimately baffled or he's a really good actor.

Which post did this happen in?

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@Sven

I have stated that my goal is not to lynch jebus, i am just willing to unless he gets me what I want. I have stated this alot and I dont understand why people keep bringing it up.

So you'd lynch someone for not "getting you what you want"? This just seems like a stupid power struggle. Someone's already mentioned that he's played like this before, got lynched and flipped town. Let it go, seriously.

How is this scumhunting? You stated that ferret was a bad vote after a four minute read, then you voted nero, then you followed neros advice anyway and voted ferret. So you went from having suspicions on nero to trusting him with your vote in a matter of minutes and you didnt explain how it happened.

I don't think Bad cop was very serious when he made those posts. I didn't take the Nero vote seriously...

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@Ferret

If I assumed that I could be able to shoot anyone, I would shoot myself. I haven't been helpful very much and need to be more actively scumhunting. If I couldn't shoot myself then I would have No Action.

This doesn't come from a town mindset, it comes from scum pretending to be town.
As town, you would know yourself to be %100 town, everyone else would be less than %100 (sure) town. From this perspective, shooting anyone over yourself would be the best and obvious choice.

[GoodCopBadCop]

Good cop ^

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I dont think I can do the ISO on ferret today desperado. Totally spent from work and I dont have axcess to a computer. I have skimmed him thou and even with the last posts he made I think gcbc is a better lynch.

[GoodCopBadCop]

I dont think I can do the ISO on ferret today desperado. Totally spent from work and I dont have axcess to a computer. I have skimmed him thou and even with the last posts he made I think gcbc is a better lynch.

Good scum hunting.

You said you were going to explain why i'm scum. I'd like to hear it.

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@Sven

I have stated that my goal is not to lynch jebus, i am just willing to unless he gets me what I want. I have stated this alot and I dont understand why people keep bringing it up.

So you'd lynch someone for not "getting you what you want"? This just seems like a stupid power struggle. Someone's already mentioned that he's played like this before, got lynched and flipped town. Let it go, seriously.

I have stated that it is roleneutral for him to slack.
I will not let it go.

How is this scumhunting? You stated that ferret was a bad vote after a four minute read, then you voted nero, then you followed neros advice anyway and voted ferret. So you went from having suspicions on nero to trusting him with your vote in a matter of minutes and you didnt explain how it happened.

I don't think Bad cop was very serious when he made those posts. I didn't take the Nero vote seriously...

Okay. So you bad cop going 180 on two people without any reasoning and in short period of time is just something I should let slide?

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I dont think I can do the ISO on ferret today desperado. Totally spent from work and I dont have axcess to a computer. I have skimmed him thou and even with the last posts he made I think gcbc is a better lynch.

Good scum hunting.

You said you were going to explain why i'm scum. I'd like to hear it.

Lol.

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AA9 has lost her town status due to slacking.

[GoodCopBadCop]

@desperado

But I've also just died in a game with Jebus where he got lynched for this precise reason, and was town.

This is not excusing his play, but it is meant to illustrate that no matter how much pressure you put on him (with words AND votes), he just doesn't care. My understanding from that game is that his meta is more of the same.

Sven, the last you said you hadn't had time to focus in on ferret. If that is still the case, just ISO him, come back, and try to justify his actions as town.

If you can do that convincingly, I'll jump back on Jebus with you.

I don't understand why you'd vote Jebus again. Can you explain why?

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@Sven

Okay. So you bad cop going 180 on two people without any reasoning and in short period of time is just something I should let slide?

Yes! Why the hell would he do that as scum? He would be more careful.
It's null.

[GoodCopBadCop]

I have stated that it is roleneutral for him to slack.
I will not let it go.

Let's say we waste a lynch on a neutral player. What advantage have we gained that is more useful to us than a dead scummy player?

- Good cop.

[Desperado]

If Sven could have convinced me that ferret was town, I would have parked my vote on Jebus until I had a better scum candidate for the same reasons Sven is voting him, but I was also informing Sven that lynching Jebus will not "teach him a lesson," which seemed to be the major thrust of his vote.

For me, until Jebus stops dicking around and gives some content, he's a positive placeholder while, should my major FOS change, I find a new suspect.

[GoodCopBadCop]

I was also informing Sven that lynching Jebus will not "teach him a lesson," which seemed to be the major thrust of his vote.

Then why even vote him as a placeholder?

[Desperado]

Would you prefer that I just randomly choose one of the other uber-lurkers? Why does it matter who the placeholder vote is if they are in no danger of actually getting lynched?

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Not even remotely null in my eyes. Its among the scummiest things I have seen. I dont know how I will be able to change my read on you.

Regarding Jebus, I will never be okay with that amount of contribution, and I feel like I have to show it somehow to make it clear that it is not tolerated.

Gcbc is my strongest scum suspect thou.

And desp, i will do the iso i promised, but it will have to wait another 24 hours ... I Feel bad about that bro.

[Desperado]

You seem to be implying that it's scummy for me to say that I have town meta on Jebus but am still willing to vote him, which do not follow logically from one another in the first place. It's just as likely that scumJebus is lurking in the same manner that townJebus did, which is why it's a null tell and no one is a) calling him scum or b) voting him with the intent to lynch him. Even if it's likely futile, our vote is our only weapon, so how else do you suggest we get Jebus to start playing?

[Desperado]

It's a long game Sven and you're on a completely different timetable anyway. You're just getting home from work while I just made my first cup of coffee.

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I am not home actually, living in a trailer at work site, hence the no computer... And phone on 40% battery and I forgot my charger. Rage.

[GoodCopBadCop]

Not even remotely null in my eyes. Its among the scummiest things I have seen. I dont know how I will be able to change my read on you.

Regarding Jebus, I will never be okay with that amount of contribution, and I feel like I have to show it somehow to make it clear that it is not tolerated.

Gcbc is my strongest scum suspect thou.

And desp, i will do the iso i promised, but it will have to wait another 24 hours ... I Feel bad about that bro.

Why is it scummy?

Why would he do that as scum?

You missed the question.

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@Desperado

- I think you're slightly town atm. I was looking for an explanation to something I found weird. We'll talk about it in more detail later.

[GoodCopBadCop]

Also, Sven stop posting so much. You're responsible for more than 1/5 of all the posts.

[Desperado]

Noted

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Its scummy because i dont get or belive that you have faith in your actions. You dont seem to care much where your vote is. You dont give insight to the thoughts that you had at the time.

I dont think it was done intentionally, I belive it was a bad play that is now getting heat. If you are hinting at why scum would try to look scummy then thats not what I belive happened.

I will not stop ny activity. Althou it will drop when my battery dies.

[GoodCopBadCop]

Its scummy because i dont get or belive that you have faith in your actions. You dont seem to care much where your vote is. You dont give insight to the thoughts that you had at the time.

What do you mean by "faith in my actions"?
Are you basing this solely on the vote on Nero or other things? (quote relevant posts)

You think scum don't care where their vote is?
(How much experience do you have?)

[GoodCopBadCop]

I will not stop my activity. Although it will drop when my battery dies.

It will hurt town if you don't...

You complain about lurkers when you're making catching up way harder for them. If I was a day Vig, i'd kill you now. You piss me off.

In fact:

Vig: Sven

Good riddance.

[Desperado]

Whoa