Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Icebox]

@DBK, what do you think of Egg's post? 445?

-Rem

[Does Bo Know]

I'm surprised he's just finding it odd instead of suspicious.

But my comment could be interpreted as helping TNE be better scum, sure.

But when TNE was scum in 484 and we told him to be more active, he really wasn't.

[zabriel]

Zachattack has received his second prod. Still looking for a replacement for Freshmaniscoolman. Tell your friends.

[Bulbazak]

What don't you understand?

You say this doesn't look genuine, or this is wrong, or you don't "like" something. But you don't elaborate further without prompting. It makes it difficult to determine if you're scum hunting or not.

A big part of scumhunting is determining whether somebody is sincere in what they're saying or not. As such, I look for scum to make fake or forced posts, while town's posts will be more natural, and therefore, more genuine. Part of it is admittedly gut, but a large part also revolves around close reading to determine motivation. Personally, there has not been much that has really gone on this game or captured my attention. Therefore, I'm relying more on gut and motivation tells.

[Mac]

I know, Bo. That "and" should have been a "/"

Autti is town because he hasn't done anything terribly scummy. Admittedly, it's not a strong town read, but it's a town read nonetheless.

is there no null-field for you?

What do you mean by this, Mac?

Well, you say he hasn't done anything terribly scummy so that makes me him a weak town read. And I'm asking how that makes him weak town as opposed to null.

[Egg]

Autti, (on Page 16) you completely misunderstood Bo's point. Why is Icebox's case on you OMGUS? A lot of people have shown suspicion of Icebox. Why would he single you out over these other people. "That's his choice" doesn't really answer that. Not if you want to keep the whole OMGUS point you made. Tell me why Icebox is scum who thinks you are better to OMGUS than all of the other people who suspect him.

Looking at Klick's look back to RQS, I didn't even realize bulb used players not in this game (or I forgot about it). That makes it easy to not have to leave connections to other players.

Icebox, you are just arguing semantics on the OMGUS thing. He's making the point whether he's calling it the right thing or not. Yes, his thinking is flawed. But I don't like the way you dismiss the point by saying he's calling it the wrong thing. Why not address the point itself?

[Does Bo Know]

Shit, 3 days until deadline.

Why haven't we lynched Icebox yet?

[Icebox]

^ Because I'm town.

Why hasn't Fuzzy been lynched yet? He's scum.

-Rem

[fuzzybutternut]

Lol, definitely not scum.

Now you're deflecting.

[Icebox]

@Egg, On Autti: I accused him of something. He states I am doing it as an OMGUS. I say I'm doing it because he was vague for no reason. He solidifies his read on me, for reasons that don't make sense.

Pedit: @Fuzzy, then why aren't you hunting? This is completely different from what I've seen you do as town.

[fuzzybutternut]

@Egg, On Autti: I accused him of something. He states I am doing it as an OMGUS. I say I'm doing it because he was vague for no reason. He solidifies his read on me, for reasons that don't make sense.

Pedit: @Fuzzy, then why aren't you hunting? This is completely different from what I've seen you do as town.

you know, I get that a lot. You would think that people would understand how different my play is in different games.

[Icebox]

Okay, explain the advantages to your style of play. How, is what you're doing beneficial for town?

-Rem

[Does Bo Know]

@Icebox: What do you think of my #399? Because you seemed not to care why I even called Fuzzy town, as shown in your #400. Looks like deflection.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm doing what I need to do to survive. That's all I'm saying on that matter.

Explain how what

you

are doing is beneficial for town.

[Does Bo Know]

Icebox is definitely doing more productive things than you tbh.

[Icebox]

Sure, I've questioned Bulbazak, questioned Autti, Questioned you, made a case against you, argued that Klick was town, Stated that Syrana was not likely to be a werewolve based on his play. GIf argued that TNE was town. Pressured Zach etcetera. Your turn.

@Bo: I specifically mentioned what I thought of it.

We've been saying in thread for quite a while that Fuzzy is stubborn about his reads

In the thread, to his face.

Do you want me to elaborate?

-Rem

-Rem

[Bulbazak]

Fuzzy, if you're town, survival shouldn't be your #1 priority. Scumhunting should be. Survival can be #2.

[fuzzybutternut]

Scum can do productive things too, DBK. You know that as well as I do.

P-Edit: A lot of questioning, with little following up. Nice.

Bulb- being who I am, they are both number one priorities.

[Does Bo Know]

Town fuzzy is pretty defensive too.

I know that scum can be productive too. My point was that he was scum hunting more than you were.

And Fuzzy's P-edit toward Icebox is a dumb response.

[Icebox]

Scum can do productive things too, DBK. You know that as well as I do.

P-Edit: A lot of questioning,

with little following up. Nice.

Bulb- being who I am, they are both number one priorities.

Would you like to back this statement up with quotes?

-Rem

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* Guys, I'll be back later.

My internet is like, seriously fucking up.

This is the only webpage I can access. Anything else tells me my account is deactivated.

[Egg]

Shit, 3 days until deadline.

Why haven't we lynched Icebox yet?

unvote, vote icebox

[Icebox]

@Egg, can you explain to me why you're voting me.
Please summarize it. Thank you.

[Icebox]

Actually, @Everyone: Why are you voting me. Give your reasons. Do not requote yourself.

-Rem

[Does Bo Know]

Well this is gonna be awkward.

UNVOTE: Icebox

I just skimmed an ISO of Icebox and...why the

fuck

did I think he was scum?

I'll let you guys ponder on my unvote since I'll be gone for a while.

Fuzzy's still town though. I'd really,

really

rather not vote him today, but if deadline's too close and he's the only possible lynch, I'll go for it.

VOTE: Autti
Just to see if this catches on. Probably won't, but Autti's still a scum read to me, I'm sure of that.