Newbie 1356 (OVER)

[Mist7676]

I actually like that post. But RC, I felt you should be lynched because you don't do anything for the town. All you do is swoop in at the perfect times to lay a vote down.

Mutley, today I really want to see more FH posts after he can post.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

DDDP got any other thoughts on the other scum member?

Zoggoth; I've got some reason to suspect everyone else is town other than him. And if you look at the interaction between him and Mist there's basically nothing other than times when they talked about everyone. That bein said it's not a useful read so much without Mist being scum.

[Messiah]

Newbie 1356 - Vote Count 2.1

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Mist7676 [L-1]

- Mutleyddmc, Debonair Danny DiPietro, RadiantCowbells

Not Voting (4)

: freezing-hell, dexter9264, Mist7676, Zoggoth

With seven alive it takes

four

to lynch.

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Deadline:

(expired on 2013-05-12 21:00:00)

[freezing-hell]

today I really want to see more FH posts

Funny. You want to see more posts of me, while having too many posts was what made me scummy...... but I think I'll have some time later today.

[dexter9264]

I agree with DDDP here. I feel like Zoggoth could be scum. He says multiple times that he feels like Varsoon is town. But then all of a sudden he jumps in and hammers.

A quick ISO of him:

ISO 0 (post 5): RVS vote
ISO 1 (post 8): stalks people pregame, says he is more likely to vote experienced over nonexperienced in the case of lynching two equally scummy players
ISO 2 (post 19): basically says the same as above
ISO 3 (post 21): votes mutely for his scumclaim
ISO 4 (post 108): ive been busy post
ISO 5 (post 109): unvotes mutley who is at L-1
ISO 6 (post 112): He writes his tells on everyone. Says that he thinks Varsoon is town.
ISO 7 (post 143): Says he would lynch PP over Mist
ISO 8 (post 264): prod dodge I believe
ISO 9 (post 298): Talks about a DDDP/Varsoon scumteam
ISO 10 (post 338): Says he thinks Varsoon is town, pretty much scraps the DDDP/Varsoon team
ISO 11 (post 347): Agrees with Varsoon, defends him
ISO 12 (post 350): Votes FH for putting Varsoon at L-1
ISO 13 (post 486): Hammers Varsoon

I'm going to look at the above in two different ways

Zoggothtown:
-stalks people pregame to get to know who he will be playing with
-defends someone who he thinks is town
-hammers so there isn't a no lynch

Zoggothscum:
-stalks people pregame to know his competition, who will be dangerous.
-buddies with Varsoon who he knows is town
-lurks
-hammers under the guise that he is preventing a no lynch

Really tho, there isn't too much information to go off of here. Zoggoth just doesn't have enough content

Right now, I feel like there is at least one scum in Mist, Zoggoth, and FH. Mist stands out as the most likely scum. However, if she flips town and DDDP survives the night, I strongly advise that we take a look at DDDP

RC is still useless. What else is new?

[Mist7676]

today I really want to see more FH posts

Funny. You want to see more posts of me, while having too many posts was what made me scummy...... but I think I'll have some time later today.

I meant what you thought of the lynch and the night kill.

[freezing-hell]

I meant what you thought of the lynch and the night kill.

The lynch was justified enough. Varsoon acted scummy and got lynched. Yes, he appeared a bit more town but he was still scummy in my eyes. I switched back to him because A) he's a suspect, B) I'd rather lynch my suspect than possibly get lynched myself. I think they killed PP because he was quiet, and perhaps scum saw that as PR-indication of some sorts. Also, it's pretty obvious that scum will now look at those at the Varsoon wagon and try to pin them for it. Quite interesting how you want to know my opinion but not that of Zoggoth, for example.

[freezing-hell]

FoS: Mist

wanna vote her but don't know how many votes she has ATM, and don't have time to look it up.

[Mist7676]

Well Zoggoth hasn't made an attempt to post. And I am at L-1 at this point. Taking that as an attempt to hammer?

[freezing-hell]

No attempt to hammer. You being at L-1 is fine enough. What did you think of the NK?? And what do you make of Zoggoth so far? Also, who do you want to see lynched today?

[Mist7676]

I think the night kill was an odd choice. PP was thought to be some type of target after Varsoon died, so keeping him alive would have kept suspicion off of scum.

I think that hammer was very very bad. But then again, we slaved over the discussion for a long time coming to no consensus. It was better than dragging it out.

[Mist7676]

Sorry I forgot to put the last question in there.

Personally, I don't want to be lynched. But I don't know who to vote at this time.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I like the part where everyone knows what's going to happen today but we have to artificially string things out to make things look proper.

[Messiah]

I sent out a prod to Zoggoth sometime yesterday evening, by the way. Forgot to say so.

[Zoggoth]

I feel I need to justify my actions yesterday.

With around 8 hours to go, I realized that a no lynch was a real possibility and decided to move my vote off of FH (I didn't think there was enough people against him for a lynch on him to succeed) onto either Varsoon or Mist (both of whom were at L-2 at the time). As I knew I definitely wouldn't be able to post again between then and the start of D2, I decided to vote Varsoon, as his flip would be more helpful than Mist's would, and I would be able to get a better idea of the motivations of the people who had voted for him at various points, as many of them were scum suspects for me.

However, I didn't realize that during the time I was choosing my vote, FH had already moved his vote back to Varsoon, making my vote the hammer, as I had hoped that we would be able to use the final hours to get more information out of him, but obviously this wasn't possible

The most worrying thing, given the situation, is that the day after an apparently dodgy lynch, there is no flip or wagon analysis (other than a little by RC, of all people) and people go almost immediately to the same wagons from yesterday.

SCUM-ZOGGOTH COULD HAVE LITERALLY HAMMERED MIST RIGHT NOW!

(this is

not

a vote).

As such, I am planning to do some in-depth analysis of DDDP, as well as the wagons and flips from yesterday, but for goodness sake,

If you don't want to risk instant Lylo, someone get off Mist

.

tl;dr My hammer was accidental (and some reasoning), no-one is analyzing the flips properly, and everyone on Mist is either scum or an idiot.

FOS: DDDP

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

The most worrying thing, given the situation, is that the day after an apparently dodgy lynch, there is no flip or wagon analysis (other than a little by RC, of all people) and people go almost immediately to the same wagons from yesterday. SCUM-ZOGGOTH COULD HAVE LITERALLY HAMMERED MIST RIGHT NOW! (this is not a vote).

Scum Zoggoth might not want to hammer his scum partner; understandable. Scum Zoggoth also might realize that if Mist is town that it will help him more to try and regain some credibility by staying off the wagon and not hammering again and getting himself lynched tomorrow. Really if the argument that you're town amounts to "I'm totally not hammering right now" it's not exactly a strong point.

[Mutleyddmc]

Zoggoth that was a really good post. It really helped me think they you are scum. So thanks for that.

[RadiantCowbells]

The fact that in 554, Dexter makes a case for zoggoth being scum then says that the most likely scum is mist set off my scumdar, on top of the "if DDDP survives then pressure him tomorrow" statement, but I ISO'd him and am not convinced that he's scum. Null at worst, leaning towards the town end of the spectrum. However,

RC is still useless. What else is new?

Funny considering I have given more reasoning behind my Mist vote than anyone else has. #swagyologetoveritkony2012

I read DDDP and Dexter as most town. I would not support a lynch on either at this time, even to stop a NL.
I have a null read on Freezing-Hell and Zoggoth. I would prefer not to lynch either of those at this time, but they would be preferable to a NL.
I have a slight scumread on Mutley. I would support a lynch on him at this time if Mist is not getting lynched.
I read Mist7676 as most scum. I would (and am) support(ing) a lynch on her at this time.

Following the mist flip, I will have new information.

[dexter9264]

The fact that in 554, Dexter makes a case for zoggoth being scum then says that the most likely scum is mist set off my scumdar, on top of the "if DDDP survives then pressure him tomorrow" statement, but I ISO'd him and am not convinced that he's scum. Null at worst, leaning towards the town end of the spectrum.

Oh I assumed we were pretty much settled on lynching Mist today. I was looking around and I feel like Zoggoth could be her scumpartner

[Mutleyddmc]

RC you disappoint me. I'm more scummy than zoggoth right now RC you aren't main town read. I wish we had flipped mist yesterday. We would have a lot more info. Like DDDP said we are just doing the boring formalities or what not. IMO lets just flip mist as most other talk is prob actually going to do nothing.

[freezing-hell]

Mist. Who are your most townreads?

[Mutleyddmc]

Mist make a case against someone please. I am bored. This day is boring me someone hammer

[Mutleyddmc]

FH what are your reads right now?

I think I've figured out a few things but they cant be said. Other than I am guessing the mafia may have killed pyro as there was probably no reason for the doctor to protect him.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I think I've figured out a few things but they cant be said. Other than I am guessing the mafia may have killed pyro as there was probably no reason for the doctor to protect him.

It also lets them WIFOM the town as Mist keeps trying to do and was possible PR hunting as well.

[Mutleyddmc]

Hammer mist someone. Then we get zoggoth tomorrow. Which at that point we will definitely know if he is scum or not.