Mini 1436 ~ Mafia Through a Puppy's Eyes (Game Over.)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: SpyreX

Honestly, this is the 99.9% vote. The 100% vote is Inplosion because he's practically confirmed scum to everyone in the town.

But it'll feel better to take out the scumbag I've been pushing all game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If I'm scum SpyreX, who am I scum with?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How shocking, he left. He couldn't give me an answer right away because he had to fabricate it.

He isn't making real reads because he's scum. I've posted cases on him and all he's ever done in this game is call out vague easily retractible reads, ask Parama to tell him what to do and hammer things.

Very obvious scum.

[Sixty]

~Mini Vote Count (16)

Lady Lambdadelta (L-2)

~ SpyreX

SpyreX (L-2)

~ Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting:

Cheery Dog, implosion,

(Lady Lambdadelta,)

Parama,

(SpyreX)

--With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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(95%)

[implosion]

.-.

How shocking, he left. He couldn't give me an answer right away because he had to fabricate it.

are you familiar with the concept of the real world
cuz yeah
people do shit in that.

I feel like i'm more likely to vote lld than i am to vote spyrex. I really don't know what i'm going to think the next time i look at this game beyond that.

[SpyreX]

I'm actually really surprised to see you say that implosion.

Because the between the lines is simple:

I've handed this game to Parama. If he's sold that Cheery is town enough, then its you and LLD. Down the stretch.

So, we can fast forward to you voting for me and then Cheery and Parama deciding this.

----

However, if there was any doubt watching this fake heat treating this game, of all games, as if its BREAK NECK SPEEDS and I'd be just aquiver is amazing.

[Cheery Dog]

I'm intrigued by Cheery - the comborole is one of those "borderline" things that could have been gamechanging in the right hands. The flipside is a simple night talker is absolutely a trololol role and fits with the lower powercurve we've seen. Tracker is perfect here sliding into the double-win of getting a mysterious result tomorrow even if things go wrong which is soo delicious I can't decide if this is Kaiser Soze or a simple case of duh-ery.

If you need more on the tracker being true, it's the reason why I had sword of omens as a town read day 2 and you and LLD were my weak townie lists.

Other than that I've still been mostly lost with this game, and I don't think me having a investigative role helped.

[Parama]

Parama look at thus cheeky scumfuck trying to sell you on CHEERY SCUM.

well you realize I'm already considering the possibility right

I'm wondering, worrying, waiting...
I think if we lynch out of these two today tomorrow is autowin, scum have to kill cheery tonight or he'll force them into a 1v1 with them tomorrow by either tracking scum or clearing the other townie, so if cheery is alive tomorrow there's almost no doubt in my mind he's scum. which means I can safely put off even considering a cheery lynch until tomorrow.
I still have mild fears about a SURPRISE IMPY/CHEERY team because they weren't around enough at the same time for a potential quickhammer, but if it is them we've already lost anyways so I'm going to assume at most one of them is scum unless they come in and quickhammer.

that leaves spyspy/lld.
which of the two I have no goddamn clue.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

.-.

How shocking, he left. He couldn't give me an answer right away because he had to fabricate it.

are you familiar with the concept of the real world
cuz yeah
people do shit in that.

I feel like i'm more likely to vote lld than i am to vote spyrex. I really don't know what i'm going to think the next time i look at this game beyond that.

There's a difference between "real life" and us responding back and forth and him up and leaving COINCIDENTALLY after that point.

I don't know why I'm bothering justifying to you because you're scum and all, but whateva.

[Sixty]

~Vote Count XXXV

Lady Lambdadelta (L-2)

~ SpyreX

SpyreX (L-2)

~ Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting:

Cheery Dog, implosion, Parama

--With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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(92%)

[implosion]

10:23, 10:31, 10:37, 10:39, 10:51 are the timestamps on those posts with 10:31 being from spyrex and the rest from you. Six minutes (ie 10:31 to 10:37) is plenty of time to, y'know, go start doing something else. i mean, capitalizing the word COINCIDENTALLY does not make it... y'know, not a coincidence >_>.

spyrex i'm thinking a lot less pragmatically than you appear to be. I actually want to figure out *who* the scum are rather than blindly telling parama to figure it out for me. It also pains me to say that i'm not confident parama is town anymore but euuugh.

[Parama]

not offended, not particularly reasonable to have any definite townreads going into a 5p lylo.
though apparently the scum have had it out for my townreads all goddamn game :I

like
Cheery is probably town. And Cheery town guarantees implosion-scum. BUT. those doubts. those goddamn doubts.
at this point...
Cheery and Spyspy are prooobably not scum together, in the same way that Cheery is proooobably town, and two proooobably's on top of each other are a definite as far as I care.
and at this point we can safely say that cheery and impy aren't scum together.
so the only person Cheery *can* be scum with is LLD.
in other news, impy is the only person spyspy can be scum with, though the inverse isn't true.
and LLD can be scum with impy.
those are basically the only three scumteams that I see feasible at this point.
the problem is that this doesn't help does it... ugh.

[Parama]

I REAAAALLY want to lynch implosion just because he makes the most sense as scum
but that issue will work itself out if we lynch right today, whereas if impy does flip scum it's almost guaranteed we'll be in the same position tomorrow with LLD vs Spyspy

sigh.
this game sucks.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If we lynch Implosion today, SpyreX will be forced to kill Cheery tonight or Cheery will be able to confirm him as scum.

So basically, it means it will be you deciding between me and SpyreX tomorrow.

Which honestly might be better, because as much as I think Cheery is town, his reads and play this game don't fill me with a lot of trust in him to make the right call between me and SpyreX today. Remember, all it takes is for Cheery to make a wrong vote and SpyreX and Implosion can immediately quickhammer me for the win. (No offense meant here Cheery, I just don't know if I trust your ability to read as much as I do Parama's, plus with 2 people having to make a choice, it's more likely that the scum can win, rather than with 1.)

So I'm down to lynch Implosion today. He's literally confirmed scum to you and Cheery by virtue of interactions and stuff. Only reason I'm voting spyreX right now is because I'm too Proud and want to see SpyreX die the death.

[Parama]

it's just delaying the inevitable though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

it's just delaying the inevitable though.

It's also the safer play. Not having to rely on Cheery to come to the same decision as you and all.

But you won't see me complaining if you and Cheery vote SpyreX. I'm perfectly ok with doing it in either order.

[Cheery Dog]

I don't think I'm confident in myself either.

[Parama]

And I'm not confident in you even if you are town :V

[Parama]

ehh. I dunno though. give me a bit to look over things because I dreadfully need to

[implosion]

I honestly feel a bit defeatist here and i don't really have any good logical arguments in favor of me being town

Like, i have difficulty envisioning a future in this game in which i am not lynched either today or tomorrow. I honestly think my best guess at the scumteam right now would be lld/parama and my typing slows down when i type the word parama because god damn he's played a good game if he's scum, but it's the only thing that makes ANY sense right now .

i also frankly find parama's pause on me a bit odd - i feel like parama should be MORE willing to vote me right now. I'm not completely sure if the paranoid attitude towards cheery is characteristic of paramatown. so i guess i'll just ask, why are you paranoid of cheery?

[Parama]

I've been wrong on four lynches in a row
I don't particularly feel that confident in any of my reads right now

[Parama]

the problem is that the circumstances for Cheery's claim just don't do anything to make it believable
we've had 3 flipped town PRs. none of them particularly strong, as far as I know (what is a prowler?) but also no evidence of any scum PRs to counteract them.
his role could be useful to either side given the right circumstances.
and the one person Cheery hasn't claimed a track on is the only person he can be scum with, though that's barely a thing anyways.

his play just seems derpy more than anything, bad but not scummish bad. so that doesn't help either.

[Cheery Dog]

Time to look closely at old stuff I guess

kkb is town, parama is way probably town, safetydance was ultra town but can't even hate on a doc claim now.

Cheery is dead, maxous I'd shoot in the face, iceguy is probably that dude that went all goofus BUT I dont want him at endgame.

Everyone else is in the middle.

Unvote, Vote cheery

I know for fact there's 5 town players mentioned here - and I'm fairly sure the other is town as well, what with no active scum abilities - unless Parama cancelled one after seeing my message. (or implosion can active ability and kill)
Yeah I'm still getting nothing.

hmm my google search for mafia prowler came up with http://wiki.scumhunt.com/index.php?title=Prowler
Which I could see possibly translating loosely to be name cop, though I doubt we'd have anything on it.

[Cheery Dog]

I can't see if anything fits there with that suggestion from Messiah's ISO, so maybe not.

[Parama]

Cheery, what's your opinion on implosion?