Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Icebox]

ok

VOTE: klick

Tomorrow should be fuzzy.

Why not fuzzy today? I want werewolf first.

[Icebox]

PEDIT: THE FUCK IS THIS SEER BULLSHIT

I GUESS I'LL FIND OUT TOMORROW

CAPS LOVE <3

[Icebox]

Autti, (on Page 16) you completely misunderstood Bo's point. Why is Icebox's case on you OMGUS? A lot of people have shown suspicion of Icebox. Why would he single you out over these other people. "That's his choice" doesn't really answer that. Not if you want to keep the whole OMGUS point you made. Tell me why Icebox is scum who thinks you are better to OMGUS than all of the other people who suspect him.

Looking at Klick's look back to RQS, I didn't even realize bulb used players not in this game (or I forgot about it). That makes it easy to not have to leave connections to other players.

Icebox, you are just arguing semantics on the OMGUS thing. He's making the point whether he's calling it the right thing or not. Yes, his thinking is flawed. But I don't like the way you dismiss the point by saying he's calling it the wrong thing. Why not address the point itself?

Maybe OMGUS was the wrong turn of phrase to use. But Icebox posted a case against me (weak i might add, DBK's is far better) simply because i posted a case against him. Also notice he did nothing to address my suspicions, and still hasn't, he has just railroaded with unnecessary explanations of events not pertinent to the scum cases against him.

The minute Klick posted a case against him it was addressed immediately by him, because Klick is seen as town in by almost everyone currently. Mine however, never even mentioned it, his defense was to case suspicion on me in turn. That is scummy. Maybe i got a bit ahead of myself, and obviously i'm thinking my case is better than it is because i wrote it, i'm fallible and forget that haha, but i still think he is scum.

Icebox #476

Of course it looked forced, I'm using it as a trust tell. I am going to unnaturally go out of my way to call myself town when I'm town.

Except when you called yourself potential scum! Which was the start of my case anyway and one you have refused to address.

Since when reflexive scumhunting was scummy?

[Icebox]

TNE, Icebox thought Fuzzy tried laying fake bread crumbs to fakeclaim Seer, when Icebox is

(probably)

the real seer.

That's exactly what happened. But I don't know why Rem put Fuzzy for L-1 for claim. -.-;

[Icebox]

Shit, 3 days until deadline.

Why haven't we lynched Icebox yet?

unvote, vote icebox

Try again.

Also, what's your read on TNE now?

[Icebox]

/spamposts

[Egg]

Bo, you responded to icebox by saying you were surprised I didn't find your attitude towards thene suspicious. What gave you that impression? I'd absolutely be looking your way if thene were to flip scum at some point. Also, there's a difference between telling someone to be active, which is common, and what you are doing here.

Icebox, my vote on you is based on the things in the very early game. The hydra half blaming the other, the way your RQS answer was basically mine with more words, the way that when initially pressured you went to 100% defending yourself and 0% scumhunting (although this clearly changed later but that could be due to a realization that you have another team to catch). I mostly revoted for deadline. There isn't really anything new.

Autti, (I'm responding to 477 here) I get that. He should have responded to your points. But there is a bigger picture. You are not the only one to suspect him. If he is OMGUSing (regardless of how you define that. Your way or his, this still applies), there has to be a reason why you are more of a threat to his scum game or an easier lynch or for some strong reason a better vote than anyone else who has gone after him. I just don't think that's there. The vote is probably legitimate regardless of his alignment and yours. He still could be scum, and I still am leaning that way, but this isn't a valid point.

Bulb, in 478, you respond to icebox saying that things outside of mafia affect the way you post. He uses the word "quirks". You spin that to the trust tell thing. I think he meant personality. Everyone plays differently.

Bulb and klick both committed a strong scum tell. More bulb than klick. I need to keep reading before I know if I can reveal what it is or not. I think I saw something that males me think I can when I was trying to figure out where I left off.

Bacde, answering your question directed at everyone. I think we lynch the scummiest player whether they are mafia or werewolf. But if I could be picky, i'd say mafia. The fact that there are three means we probably need help from the werewolves at some point to beat them. That can either be from a NK or late in the game when their numbers start to hurt everyone. However, in that case, werewolf would have to be the Day 2 lynch because their numbers are even at that point and wolves can kill.

[Bacde]

who here thinks egg is town?

[Bacde]

K.

So I see Bacde and Bulba is butthurt that our slot ain't scum. (Surprise, surprise.)

And Klick's RQS is not always effective at catching scum too.

/inyourface.

Commencing catching up.

-G

I'm not disappointed at all?

wasn't there a wagon on you when I replaced in that I completely ignored to start the klick wagon

[Bacde]

by the way, if anyone else is going to claim seer, now is the time to do it

[Bacde]

lol let it slide

retract icebox I know you aren't the real seer

lets not ask for ccs and out the real seer please

gfto.

Sadly, these posts reeks town.

I was trying to cover for you fool, don't tell me to gtfo

you claimed at a time that made no sense, so why wouldn't it make more sense to convince everybody that you were fakeclaiming?

[fuzzybutternut]

Gah. Wait, are there 3 mafia and 3 werewolves?? Because I have Klick, Egg, and Icebox as some sort of scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

Aha! 3 goons and 2 werewolves. Thank you, Wiki.

[Egg]

It took me a minute but I get what icebox was trying to say on the "slip". The word "which" refers to the NK itself, no actually eliminating the NK.

Icebox is committing the same tell as bulb and klick.

Yeah, icebox saw the same crumbs I did. The VT claim is just horrible. Or at least it makes the crumbs horrible. The tell was that they started attacking him after the crumbs. Possible wolves afraid of the seer. Or even mafia wanting the seer outted so he sucks up the NK and they are safe.

Icebox's claim confirms what i'd typed and backspaced. There is an exception to the tell of attacking someone after crumbs. One of them could be a seer. Bulb, klick, and fuzzy are all scum.

I agree with bacde. If icebox is fakeclaiming, no counters. There is a time and place.

Even if fuzzy wasn't crumbing, he's still scum. I only backed off because I thought he crumbed. He was scum before that.

[Bacde]

ok

VOTE: klick

Tomorrow should be fuzzy.

Why not fuzzy today? I want werewolf first.

so you trust my read about fuzzy being werewolf and klick being mafia?

because thats a very specific assertion I'm making and you're drinking it like fact

[Bacde]

Aha! 3 goons and 2 werewolves. Thank you, Wiki.

faaaake

I already asked this question, it was the first thing I asked

and you ignored that

and you ignored figuring out the setup when you first joined

and just happen to ask about the setup now?

FAKE

Klick is probably mafia though which means we need to focus on lynching that before we get to fuzzy

[Bacde]

Gah. Wait, are there 3 mafia and 3 werewolves?? Because I have Klick, Egg, and Icebox as some sort of scum.

dude icebox is the seer but you might be right about egg

[Bacde]

It took me a minute but I get what icebox was trying to say on the "slip". The word "which" refers to the NK itself, no actually eliminating the NK.

Icebox is committing the same tell as bulb and klick.

Yeah, icebox saw the same crumbs I did. The VT claim is just horrible. Or at least it makes the crumbs horrible. The tell was that they started attacking him after the crumbs. Possible wolves afraid of the seer. Or even mafia wanting the seer outted so he sucks up the NK and they are safe.

Icebox's claim confirms what i'd typed and backspaced. There is an exception to the tell of attacking someone after crumbs. One of them could be a seer. Bulb, klick, and fuzzy are all scum.

I agree with bacde. If icebox is fakeclaiming, no counters. There is a time and place.

Even if fuzzy wasn't crumbing, he's still scum. I only backed off because I thought he crumbed. He was scum before that.

you're looking better but you lack some reading comprehension

NO MATTER THOUGH

because I now think if there is a seperate real seer that they should stay hidden (its probably icebox tho)

[fuzzybutternut]

I didn't notice you asked that question -.-

inb4 you're not reading.
I have one bar of wifi right now.
It takes too damn long to load pages.

*shrug* Yeah, no cc's. I guess you're right.

[Egg]

Fuzzy, I want to try something. Assume you are scum for a minute. Just role play this. You are scum and pretty sure klick is on the other team. Humor me. Even if you are town, do this. Ok, now why does lynching klick "solve more problems" than lynching you? Is this true if he is on one specific team and that team is more dangerous? Is it easier to find his buddies? Is there more info on his wagon? What is it?

Bacde, I had klick as a town read then he lurked and came back all scummy.

Thene, I don't think I've seen wisdom win a game before. You're definitely right about the brick wall thing though.

Goodmorning, I always try hard in the early game. I've recently been called scum for it in almost all of my games. What stupidity did I agree with? I can't find it. As for my thing about telling werewolves to shoot mafia, it was discussed in length. Yes, it benefits the werewolves a ton to shoot mafia. It also benefits town. If you can't see why, I have no help for you.

By the way, what is the name of that tell where you replace in and say the person before you played poorly? Goodmorning may have committed it. The Amished tell. Almost didn't remember the name lol. Been so long.

One more thing goodmorning. Why such a strong town read on bulb? The rest of your post never indicated this.

Icebox, I still have thene as scum but things happened. Fuzzy and klick are both scum. Bulb is scum. It's just a matter of who to lynch today.

Bacde, I don't see why you changed your mind on a seer counter claim. I still am against it. Would rather not get into why until tomorrow though. Wait. And now you are back to "don't claim". Ok, whatever lol.

And now I'm caught up.

unvote, vote fuzzy

[Icebox]

@Bacde: that "gtfo" was a joke part. I thinking you as town was the point I tried to make.
Also I never said anything about klick being scum. I agree with fuzzy though.

[zabriel]

Vote Count 1.10

Icebox (Autti)
FBN (Syryana, Klick, Bulba, Icebox, Egg) - L-2
Klick (Mac, FBN, Bacde, DBK) L-3

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Let me know if I've missed anything.

Deadline has been extended to May 7th, at 6:00pm EST in order to give replacements time to post. ((expired on 2013-05-07 18:00:00))

[Bacde]

considering that I've been hard-pushing this wagon since I entered and we are STILL only at L-3, yes I am comfortable with the speed of this wagon on klick

FBN is probably scum too though, so I'm not too opposed to a FBN lynch

G_M is probably scum

[Bacde]

I still haven't read the thread lol I'm not sure that I need to

[fuzzybutternut]

Egg, even if I was scum, I'm fairly certain Klick is a werewolf, meaning he has a night kill, meaning we would be one step closer to exterminating the NK completely. That is why it solves more problems than my lynch.