Newbie 1367: Maestro's Newbie Newbie (SCUM WIN!)

[Ms Marangal]

Don't have time, I'll be back Tuesday and maybe Wednesday for some of you guys

[Cabd]

Shadi, the more you post the less I like you. I was willing to give you some room but yeesh.

The system forces me to leave a post every 3 days or so, just trynna keep that up so I don't forget. So yeah I post, deal with it.

The others have made an analysis of me being honest and open about what I'm saying therefore leaning to townie.

Okay, so this post makes me want to lynch you now.

VOTE: Shadi

A townie isn't "forced" to post, because the townie's only way of playing the game is the day phase. A wolf favors the night phase, and just does the motions to get through the day. Also, you're very fixated on what OTHERS think of you, instead of actively scum hunting.

[Shadi1337]

Okay, so this post makes me want to lynch you now.

VOTE: Shadi

Sense, this makes none.

A townie isn't "forced" to post, because the townie's only way of playing the game is the day phase. A wolf favors the night phase, and just does the motions to get through the day.

I didn't say I was forced to post coz of any reason but that the GAME itself, the RULES require me to post. Again sense, none.

Also, you're very fixated on what OTHERS think of you, instead of actively scum hunting.

Good point, very good point. I cannot argue against that one, I can only say I'm on Jon but he disappeared and the new guy is doing well. So yeah, kinda just you; but even with you my read is neutral and/or leaning to scum a tiny bit at best. (Since that's the strongest lead, it's also my reason to have a vote on you)

[jmo16mla]

Okay, so this post makes me want to lynch you now.

Why so?

[Cabd]

Okay, so this post makes me want to lynch you now.

Why so?

A townie isn't "forced" to post, because the townie's only way of playing the game is the day phase. A wolf favors the night phase, and just does the motions to get through the day. Also, you're (shadi) very fixated on what OTHERS think of you, instead of actively scum hunting.

For the record, I'm more used to the werewolf/seer/priest names than mafia/cop/doctor names, so I use the two interchangeably.

Shadi, quote me where you've been actively going after piolo. Your RVS vote doesn't count, because you unvoted it right after a potential wagon was gonna form. All you've done is very lightly fence sit on piolo while mildly agreeing with some of my points against him.

[Shadi1337]

For the record, I'm more used to the werewolf/seer/priest names than mafia/cop/doctor names, so I use the two interchangeably.

No problem

Shadi, quote me where you've been actively going after piolo. Your RVS vote doesn't count, because you unvoted it right after a potential wagon was gonna form. All you've done is very lightly fence sit on piolo while mildly agreeing with some of my points against him.

I know, I kept it in my mind more because I don't wanna be jumping on a guy without any reason. Giving the replaced player a new start is a decent ideology for me. (Unless it obviously shouldn't happen). Anyhow, even if he was there I'd keep my vote where it is now.

Also, last part about me fence sitting is not false. So yeah again, good point. (Although the one about you disliking my post and therefore voting on me is still senseless...)

[jmo16mla]

Giving the replaced player a new start is a decent ideology for me. (Unless it obviously shouldn't happen). Anyhow, even if he was there I'd keep my vote where it is now.

This is bad play.

The slot's alignment will remain the same no matter how many people have previously played in that slot. the slot should be judged on its former players, and current player.

@cabd, would scum openly say that they are posting to keep up with the posting time quota?

[Cabd]

Often noobscum makes those types of mistakes. So yes. Sometimes, scum would openly say they're posting to keep quota. Let me provide some examples from my home site since I know those games pretty well.


http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... post-78685

Lufan was noobscum.

http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... wins.5111/

Jade openly admits to prod dodging and flips wolf via suicide here:

http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... post-52050

http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... -win.9239/

Lufan prod dodges until his prods were too much and gets modkilled, flips wolf. Admits to prod dodging on thread.

Innocent_Shine openly admits to dodging prods/etc, flips wolf

http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... post-99925

[Cabd]

So shadi, you both insist that you are pressuring piolo but now you say you're giving the slot a free pass because it got replaced? You're directly contradicting yourself now.

If anyone used your logic, shadi, everyone would /out the game at L-1 so that whoever enters the slot gets a free pass. It never works that way, ever.

[Shadi1337]

So shadi, you both insist that you are pressuring piolo but now you say you're giving the slot a free pass because it got replaced? You're directly contradicting yourself now.

If anyone used your logic, shadi, everyone would /out the game at L-1 so that whoever enters the slot gets a free pass. It never works that way, ever.

Mh yeah it might sound like I did .. >_> Lemme try to explain before I hop to bed (nearly 8 AM here in Denmark )

The slip/way he approached (Jon) is what made him suspicious, I just feel like a better character took over and generally all Jon did was doing that "MAY THE BEST TEAM WIN" thing. Granted, was a bit suspicious but I don't know if the new player should take over for that "silly post"? That's why I'm in favour of "acting" like it never was posted. Obviously if the player did something that directly leads him to scum and not only added a little bit water in the cup then I'd still be on his ass.

[Klazam]

Shadi- You say that slip made jonpiolo seem suspicious. Where did you say that? I dont see it.

also, why are you on Cabd?

[Shadi1337]

(Double post, coz I didn't see the 2 posts above the one I quoted >_<)

Well I'm posting to prod dodge and to keep the game active, I will and do not deny that. It's not like I'm trying to find anything to say, but really? Post too little, scummy, post too much scummy. Out of those 2 I think the latter is best to do, because at least you can express your words and hope to sound honest/genuine (I was lucky enough to receive some trust) by doing that). While it may sound scummy or whatever, I rather just being completely honest and tell why and what I'm doing instead of just doing it. If you think I'm over-explaining or it's scummy feel free to vote.

@Klazam
As I said I had it in mind but kept it for myself as I thought Cabd was more worth voting on (for reason please read the post where I voted on him).

[Cabd]

UNVOTE: jonpiolo

Cab, You seem to try every chance you get to vote people out and it's getting a bit old. Why do you want somebody lynched that badly? While knowing chances are pretty high that you lynch a townie first round you still want somebody voted out this badly and secure a wagon - your reasoning, however, is weak. I guess there's more to it.

VOTE: Cabd

Since shadi is too lazy to quote his own post where he voted for me, here it is.

So Shadi, your reason for voting me is:

"Being aggressive and pushing early wagons is scummy"


Would you agree with that? Also for claiming to have played offsite you need to go back and study basic theory, because not lynching day one is BAD, and going into night one without any information is bad too.

[Klazam]

What i mean- anything else to add to your reasoning for being on Cabd?

[Lazurial]

Vote: Klazam

I don't see much coming out of pressuring Shabdi, and Klazam hasn't had commentary on anything but lynching him.

[Klazam]

Is there anything else to comment on?

[Shadi1337]

Since shadi is too lazy to quote his own post where he voted for me, here it is.

I think I was on my phone, I get pretty ticked off just by typing.

So Shadi, your reason for voting me is:

"Being aggressive and pushing early wagons is scummy"

Yeah.

Would you agree with that? Also for claiming to have played offsite you need to go back and study basic theory, because not lynching day one is BAD, and going into night one without any information is bad too.

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While I agree it's bad we have nearly two weeks and voting on people most people think is leaning to townie might be a thing to do in order to get rid of a trusted person as scum. I fully agree the information from the deaths are needed, but why not try to go on the people that are really worth jumping on?

[Shadi1337]

Lemme rephrase the last part >_<

While I agree it's bad not lynching r1 (I'm not trynna start a nolynch) We have nearly two weeks to find a good or at least decent target.

By voting on people that most think are leaning townie/non-scum, it seems a bit scummy (trynna get rid of people that would be hard to get rid of without wasting a night kill/become even harder later on in the game (if peeked or more honesty shown).

[Klazam]

what is this I don't even.

we have 2 weeks to find somebody to lynch yes.

do you think scum will magically reveal themselves? no. voting people and pressuring people has to happen for that to happen.

also, so you think I'm scum for not being a sheeple and following majority thought? Kay.

also, people that are "worth jumping on" such as? Cabd? my impressions of Cabd: aggressive. that's it. neither a scum nor a town tell. a certain amount of early pushing is needed to get us anywhere.

[Klazam]

also, is Richard playing?

[Klazam]

Jesus, your posts seem mighty empty, more input please.

[Klazam]

actually, you know what? Shadi can wait.

vote jebus

post or die.

[jmo16mla]

Finally.

[richardfrost]

Ok, I really have to do some stuff. My school is having a fine arts thing soon, so I need to devote time to theater. Also, a big project is due one on Friday and one on Monday. I don't have time to read the thread in those times, so, ( hope that bold works)

V/LA until Saturday

(hopefully I'll post if I get the chance.)

[jmo16mla]

sounds promising.