NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Town
{Bubla, Thor (weak), Slandaar, Oversoul, AA9}

Null
{The rest}

Scum
{CrashTextDummie, Cephir, Nacho (weak), DLG, Fuzzy (weak), Om (weak)}

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Also

VOTE: Cephrir

[fuzzybutternut]

So that list is in no order then?

[Cephrir]

Well, that list sure is abysmal.

[Nachomamma8]

Majiffy, let's talk about massclaim.

[mastin2]

Fourth Votecount

:

(

AKA, the "Bah, this would have been sooner if the browser hadn't been set to 'work offline' mode" votecount

)

Oversoul - 5 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Nero Cain, Cephrir, Bulbazak)

Red Ryu - 2 (Oversoul, Om the Destroyer)
Cephrir - 1 (BeautyAndTheBeast)

Not Voting - 16 (Mac, DLG, roflcopter, EddieFenix, Thor665, Red Ryu, Syryana, Desperado, Baby Spice, Slandaar, Seanald, ActionDan, fuzzybutternut, Rondar, Amethyst Kitty, ArcAngel9)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

mastin2, the moderator, is recovering from a broken-laptop-induced V/LA.
Searching for a roflcopter replacement.

Spoiler: changes from last votecount

Oversoul - 5 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Nero Cain, Cephrir, Bulbazak)
Red Ryu - 2 (Oversoul, Om the Destroyer)
Cephrir - 1 (

BeautyAndTheBeast

)

Not Voting - 16 (Mac, DLG, roflcopter, EddieFenix, Thor665, Red Ryu, Syryana, Desperado, Baby Spice, Slandaar, Seanald, ActionDan, fuzzybutternut, Rondar, Amethyst Kitty,

BeautyAndTheBeast

, ArcAngel9)

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Mac:
CrashTextDummie: Oversoul
Cephrir: Oversoul
Nachomamma8: Oversoul
DLG:
Nero Cain: Oversoul
roflcopter:
EddieFenix:
Bulbazak: Oversoul
Thor665:
Red Ryu:
Syryana:
Desperado:
Baby Spice:
Slandaar:
Oversoul: Red Ryu
Seanald:
ActionDan:
fuzzybutternut:
Rondar:
Amethyst Kitty:
BeautyAndTheBeast: Cephrir
On the Destroyer: Red Ryu
ArcAngel9:

Spoiler: Voting History

On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 12:43p,

Oversoul

votes

Red Ryu

in post 202.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 12:47p,

Nachomamma8

votes

Oversoul

in post 206.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:08p,

CrashTextDummie

votes

Oversoul

in post 211.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:32p,

Nero Cain

votes

Oversoul

in post 218.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:37p,

Cephrir

votes

Oversoul

in post 219.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 02:45p,

Bulbazak

votes

Oversoul

in post 237.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 02:56p,

Om the Destroyer

votes

Red Ryu

in post 250.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 04:58p,

BeautyAndTheBeast

votes

Cephrir

in post 301.

[ActionDan]

mass claim would have been fine had it happened spontaneously. I still don't mind it, but with everyone being prepared it's lost it's surprise! value, and that's effective when scum don't have day-talk.

CTD, I believe you put forward the notion of mass-claim when you were a traitor in invitational... 14? What was your motivation in that game and why can I trust you mean what you say this game?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

So that list is in no order then?

In order of the playerlist in the OP.

Well, that list sure is abysmal.

So are each and every one of your posts.

Majiffy, let's talk about massclaim.

Lets not and forget that you're even supporting such a god awful idea.

[Nachomamma8]

Lets not and forget that you're even supporting such a god awful idea.

Why is it awful?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Because d1 massclaims in larges are scum ideas pushed by dumbtowns that don't realize they're scumpushed.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

benefit =/ cost

I didn't like it in terrible mafia

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

The only reason it was a good idea in Terrible Music was because half the playerlist had already outted.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Brb mommy and daddy are fighting in Google chat.

[Om the Destroyer]

Obvious sucking up to Thor since this was a completely useless comment unrelated to rofl's that he was responding to.

rofl said that he thought that thor was blindsighted by our beauty. majiffy responded with "you must not think much of thor then".

how is that useless and unrelated

because rofl makes a valid point in that it isn't necessarily competency that drives whether a person is blinded by buddying or not

Majiffy's "oh you must not think highly of him then!" is a somewhat-subtle "yes thor is awesome go fuck yourself"

More subtle, but still there, especially with that cute little white knight motivation of "Oh you insulted Thor how DARE you! RAWRGLEBARGLE"

I think it was a valid point.

there's no valid point made by it...the hell are you agreeing with?

~

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think it's a bad idea to start a massclaim early, get players with good synergy to get working with each other, get a little info from PRs, catch one or two free scum, dominate.

[Om the Destroyer]

Town
{Bubla, Thor (weak), Slandaar, Oversoul, AA9}

Null
{The rest}

Scum
{CrashTextDummie, Cephir, Nacho (weak), DLG, Fuzzy (weak), Om (weak)}

reads with no basis are a GO!

~

[Om the Destroyer]

Well, that list sure is abysmal.

I agree.

~

[Amethyst Kitty]

I couldn't remember the password for this account. Which means I need to talk to Mara about changing it.

___

I don't like the idea of mass claiming. I rather not at least not on Day1.

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Heh, Nacho could be scum for giving a summary of a thread

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Uh, DlG, when Mara gets back.. You will have an answer to 199 as we have some unsure people that we want to poke at.
Although, the first one was a joke. I'm not sure why you are taking it seriously.
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The Mollie/Jiffy might be town. Mollie part feels town to me at the moment.

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I'm not sure what to make of AA9 well the wagon on OS is fast and might be a QL. It's just off because I don't feel as if she's looking for scum.

AA who's your biggest scum read and your biggest town read?

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How does OM/HD's high activity make him town? I would think scum would want to blend in and be active rather then lurk and gain attention on them. Activity isn't indicative of an alignment.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

because rofl makes a valid point in that it isn't necessarily competency that drives whether a person is blinded by buddying or not

Majiffy's "oh you must not think highly of him then!" is a somewhat-subtle "yes thor is awesome go fuck yourself"

It was more of a "Thor isn't dumb enough for that to work" comment.

I don't think it's a bad idea to start a massclaim early, get players with good synergy to get working with each other, get a little info from PRs, catch one or two free scum, dominate.

Because "catch one or two free scum" never fucking happens.

reads with no basis are a GO!

~

Which ones would you be interested in hearing more about?

[Om the Destroyer]

reads with no basis are a GO!

~

Which ones would you be interested in hearing more about?

Every.

Single.

One.

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[Cephrir]

I realize you didn't ask me but I for one would like to hear what Slandaar and AA9 have done that makes them such shining beacons of towniness that they don't even get (weak)'s. As far as I can tell, it looks like your list is based entirely on whether or not people agree with you.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Papa don't roll that way. Don't want to be giving scumbutts like you legitimate reads to sheep reasons from.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I realize you didn't ask me but I for one would like to hear what Slandaar and AA9 have done that makes them such shining beacons of towniness that they don't even get (weak)'s. As far as I can tell, it looks like your list is based entirely on whether or not people agree with you.

It's largely based on whether or not people agree with me, yes. Because I am town. Ergo if you agree with me, you're likely town.

Slandaar's rather brief post including you and Fuzzy as scumreads and his strong stance against the massclaim make him town.
AA9's reaction to the Oversoul wagon makes her town.

[Om the Destroyer]

Papa don't roll that way. Don't want to be giving scumbutts like you legitimate reads to sheep reasons from.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BeautyAndTheBeast

Well thanks for admitting it upfront that these reads have no real basis I guess?

And no, agreeing with you is not a basis and not necessarily town motivated, and I know you're a better player than that.

~

[Cephrir]

Wow, that's a ridiculously self-centered viewpoint. By that logic anyone who suspects you is scum.

Welcome to my scumlist.