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I'm worried that voided is not scum, just incredibly bad. He seems interested in painting himself as scum so.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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To be honest, I think UT is a dreadful player, period. If you want to lynch him Tomorrow, go right ahead. I won't take part in it, but I'm certainly not going to spend effort fighting the lynch of someone who is doing nothing to help the Town. I'd rather he got replaced (get Regfan!), but no one seems interested in the replacement mechanic. I don't want UT, in that slot, near LyLo, because he's an apathetic bag of nothing regardless of alignment, so *shrug*. Engage :justice: lynch mode if that's what you want to do.In post 547, PimHel wrote:The point about apathy is the worst from all. We had a situation in which a player was barely posting and something came up which was heavily attacked by him. That 'something' was Shos claim (I know you're implying something else, but this counts as well). And guess what. It wasn't Parama who took advantage out of it. It was one of your town-reads: Untrod.
And about apathy, I just got out of modding a game with Parama-scum in which both him and his scumbuddy were using apathy to their benefit. Don't tell me he doesn't know how to use it. "Oh, I was lurking to see what reactions I got, guess what, no one thinks I'm really scum, let's go back to lurking now while doing nothing about it, nevermind that I have a confirmable, cool role that can help win this game! Let's self-vote wheeee!" Do you see how that train of thought makes no sense as Town? How on Earth would Parama-vig be bored with a game? You get to make people shut up (and hopefully flip scum), and you getbored? No, his claim is a lie, he's about to flip scum.
And yes, self-voting is scummy, but we're not here to discus mafia theory. Apparently I'm here to be ramblyanyway, but that's a work in progress.- Parama
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ahem
since this is what you love so much
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26594
in this game
I get bored as scum
and replace out of a god-role
as should be evident, my role is not what keeps my interest in the game
and this game has been pretty damn dull
also in Puppy Mafia you're clearly ignoring that I was visibly fighting the apathy
'cause it's dull as hell
screw LLD and her tactics, I like interesting games :V
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Town roles. Show me evidence of being bored with awesome Town roles and then I'll consider what you're saying.In post 577, Parama wrote:ahem
since this is what you love so much
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26594
in this game
I get bored as scum
and replace out of a god-role
as should be evident, my role is not what keeps my interest in the game
and this game has been pretty damn dull
also in Puppy Mafia you're clearly ignoring that I was visibly fighting the apathy
'cause it's dull as hell
screw LLD and her tactics, I like interesting games :V
I'm not even sure why I'm dignifying you with a response at this point
And no, you weren't visibly fighting the apathy from my PoV at all. :/ It's pointless to discuss it, anyway, and I'm going to have dinner instead of burning more brain cells because KK is probably about to flip you.- Kublai Khan
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||| MAFIABOT || VOTE COUNT (6 to lynch) |||
||| MAFIABOT || shos - 1 (Untrod_Tripod) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Untrod_Tripod - 3 (PimHel Voidedmafia BBmolla) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Parama - 5 (Tierce Syryana The_Rufflig Parama shos) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Living players: BBmolla Tierce Parama PimHel serrapaladin shos Syryana The_Rufflig Untrod_Tripod Voidedmafia |||
||| MAFIABOT || Deadline - 1 (The_Rufflig) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Untrod_Tripod has requested replacement. Stand by. |||Occasionally intellectually honest
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Best part of that post.In post 579, Kublai Khan wrote:||| MAFIABOT || Untrod_Tripod has requested replacement. Stand by. |||
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okay
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darn, the mod posted a votecount. yes, I was already on it. and now, that everyone knows that, does parama's reactions look real to you as a person who was supposedly hammered as town??
my greatest fear was that parama noticed that it was not a real hammer and played my game. so...what is your opinions?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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One way or another, they do not. Why did you unvote? Because the way you word this (and the previous post right after the hammer) is rather loaded on the "Parama is scum" side, yet your behavior does not seem to match your state of mind.In post 583, shos wrote:darn, the mod posted a votecount. yes, I was already on it. and now, that everyone knows that, does parama's reactions look real to you as a person who was supposedly hammered as town??
my greatest fear was that parama noticed that it was not a real hammer and played my game. so...what is your opinions?- shos
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unvoted for the sake of argument and to prevent another quickhammer; consider me voting. I just want to hear people's opinions before hammerIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Let's see what happened since my last post up to the hammer by shos: Meta, your meta sucks, no it doesn't, your meta makes you wrong, hi Molla, hammer, don't hammer, "hammer" (it wasn't but we thought it was). Do I have anything meaningful to add at any point up to the hammer? No.In post 574, Tierce wrote:The data isn't conclusive one way or another, but Syryana doesn't have an issue participating in the thread post-hammer when Town. That's what I was checking, Voided; I know some people just don't like to. But outside that playstyle-tell, it's usually a scum tell, because it's an awkward moment. The fact that it took calling Syryana out by name to get him to the thread over a natural post post-hammer, and that he had plenty of chance to do so Yesterday and Today), is a scummy pattern on a player who has no issues posting as Town in the same circumstances.
I wouldn't lynch just on this, but it's part of the overall image, especially if Parama flips scum.
Let's see what happened after the hammer. Parama claims vig, he shot Sharper. Within 12 posts of the hammer Tierce calls me out for not posting. Uhm, okay? What would I comment about? Parama's claim? He's already dead, so anything he says is pretty much irrelevant until after the flip.
Man, I'm so darn scummy for not posting in twilight.
You know what, the hell with it. Let's take Tierce's "why Syr is scum" argument apart.
Spoiler: Stuff Tierce said
So, to condense all that:- My play is bad, and I'm not that bad (according to Tierce anyways), so therefore I'm scum.
- My Parama case sucks.
- My play is inconsistent.
- I'm not posting during twilight.
Point two: My case on Parama/Molla scumteam was "superficial" and "makes a pretense at motivation seeking that was only-skin deep". The major point of contention here is that no way would Parama/Molla scumteam do what I claimed they did; it would be tantamount to suicide in a game with so many killing roles. Well, looking at the role list I can see a few that would make a fake-Jester-scum untouchable, so... Furthermore, Tierce kindly points out all these nice meta-related things that would have made my case not suck. Interesting, considering she'd just pointed out that I can't be bothered to meta anyone anyways (I straight up said it in my post), why would my analysis have included meta-related points? All I know about Parama is what I've seen from him this game and my case on him reflects that.
Point three: Yep. See point one. This point is also rather odd coming from the meta-queen; a cursory examination of my scum games reveals that inconsistency isnota part of my scum-play.
Point four: This particular argument from Tierce is fascinating. I'm not posting during twilight, but I'm active elsewhere, so I'm scummy? That's a really weak argument, particularly in light of the fact that nothing comment-worthy had happened up until Tierce called me out on it. This argument is weird for a couple of reasons: 1)Tierce supposedly doesn't want me lynched today. 2)I know she's a strong player, why are strong players suddenly making weak arguments? Especially when there's a blatantly obvious simple explanation for it.
I also realize I never answered Tierce's questions from #483. Answers: It wasn't there until after shos' claim. Roughly the same place as my shos scumread. Yes. Null, don't know how hardheaded Parama is w.r.t. his scumreads.- shos
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Was there some reason you couldn't move your vote from Untrod Tripod?In post 550, Voidedmafia wrote:Hammer away, Shos.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Was there some reason you couldn't move your vote from Untrod Tripod?In post 550, Voidedmafia wrote:Hammer away, Shos.
Reading is tech, ruffling.In post 582, Voidedmafia wrote:...Oh, right, Shos was already on it, derp.
Parama, you gonna stick to that vig claim?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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It's exactly what I said? What part of "I didn't realize/forgot Shos was already voting Parama" isn't understood?In post 594, PimHel wrote:I don't see how that's an answer why you didn't hammer Parama2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 595, Voidedmafia wrote:
It's exactly what I said? What part of "I didn't realize/forgot Shos was already voting Parama" isn't understood?In post 594, PimHel wrote:I don't see how that's an answer why you didn't hammer Parama
rephrasing the question:In post 596, PimHel wrote:That's not the point. You said that Shos could hammer. However, if you wanted to see Parama lynched, you could have voted him yourself. Why didn't you?
you were NOT voting parama. why did you not vote him then? why did you 'allow' someone else to do that?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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pro-tip: voided isn't town
rufflig just owned him so hard o/
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If this existed, I'd have hammered Parama ages ago for towncred btwIn post 589, Syryana wrote:Parama/Molla - BBmolla
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