Khan's Unnamed 3p Mafia II (Micro 175) {Game Over}

[Zachrulez]

So like I said, this isn't going to be your typical lylo... ^.^

[Tierce]

I'm a supersaint. I self voted on the outside chance that scum would quickhammer me, but I think whichever one of you is scum is wise to the game so eh...

By the way that means lynching me is a town autowin provided that town votes me first should you guys go down that route... it's just a matter of which one of you is actually town... that's the fun part.

That makes things easy for me. You're the lynch, one way or another: if you're lying, you're scum, and lynching you is a Town win. If you're speaking the truth, saul has to be the one who hammers you because etc.

VOTE: Zachrulez

I'm more inclined to think that saul is scum; that reaction to me not hammering seemed fake--he's familiar with the quirky mechanics in the previous 3p game, and also possibly with Hoopla's Vengeful Townie bit.


Buuuut bed. Pugs are calling. (>")>

[Tierce]

Incidentally, you shouldn't have claimed, Zach. I think. But that cow's been milked.

[Zachrulez]

Eh, I couldn't be sure if we were all supersaints or not, and the odds of scum not having inside knowledge to that is low, because that would just be a trolly way for scum to lose.

[Zachrulez]

Incidentally, the only way scum can win by lynching me is to be the first vote on me... so errr... yeah.

[Zachrulez]

What do you think Saul?

[saulres]

Hm. Given what I know, your claim is very plausible.

Very

plausible. Given my role PM, the way the town win condition is worded, and the fact that I can't see scum making that claim risking that the setup could involve a town PR...

Now the only question is,

Tierce, why

aren't

you the scum?

pedit: Whoa, get called away to work in the middle of the post. No, Tierce, lynching Zach is

not

the way to go if you're town. Town would look at the things at their VT role (as I did), the wording of the town win condition ("dead", not "lynched"), and come to my conclusion that he's telling the truth.

VOTE: Tierce

[Zachrulez]

This is fun...

[saulres]

Yes! I figured it out. We're playing SS3.

I was so bummed when I got a VT role, having seen KK's first 3-player Micro. When you made your claim I had to wiki it, because even though I've heard the term before I didn't really know the role. Then I got confused because from what I read, if you were telling the truth, you'd have to die, meaning there'd be a period of time, short though it was, that there'd be just me and scum, and that would satisfy the scum wincon. So I checked their wincon and that's when I realized the wording of my wincon was off -- it says "dead", not "lynched". Meaning there's another way to kill the scum, meaning your claim, along with the SS3 link, and my VT role PM, works. That meant Tierce was the scum.

And was I shocked to see her vote you right off the bat like that, instead of taking time to think it through. If she's "inclined to think that saul is scum" then she should have voted for me, not for you.

[Tierce]

Hm. Given what I know, your claim is very plausible.

Very

plausible. Given my role PM, the way the town win condition is worded, and the fact that I can't see scum making that claim risking that the setup could involve a town PR...

Now the only question is,

Tierce, why

aren't

you the scum?

pedit: Whoa, get called away to work in the middle of the post. No, Tierce, lynching Zach is

not

the way to go if you're town. Town would look at the things at their VT role (as I did), the wording of the town win condition ("dead", not "lynched"), and come to my conclusion that he's telling the truth.

VOTE: Tierce

Because I'm Town. Ask a silly question...

I do not believe you did not read the previous game, saul--and you just said you did, so. This is from the rules post in said game:

i) Town: You win when the Mafia player is dead.

Now, how would a win con that is just the same as the previous one make you assume shenanigans?

[Tierce]

Aaanyway, sleep. This is getting silly and phoneposting hurts my poor brain.

[Tierce]

If she's "inclined to think that saul is scum" then she should have voted for me, not for you.

The beauty of it is that I don't have to pick between the two of you. Either his claim is true or it's not. I'm just scumhunting on the side, a la "check if the Innocent Child's claim holds".

......Bed. Now for reals.

[Zachrulez]

Your response is missing a Saulres vote. Just sayin.

[saulres]

Pshaw I read the other game, but not the ruleset. So yeah. And

I

'm town, but I didn't feel voting zach off the bat was a good idea until I did more research into the role.

But his not hammering me tells me I'm right.

Now either go to sleep or come up with a good reason that I'm scum.

Zach, here's some more: Look at -- oh hell I'm not going to link it it's on the previous page. I was speculating Tierce and I were both town from my first post, while she was asking you and me to crossvote.

pedit: LOL playing a real-time game when I can't play real-time.

[Tierce]

Actually, hold on.

UNVOTE: Zachrulez

I'm not voting saul, Zach. You are going to self-vote again, and then you get to pick who hammers you. If you're scum, you die. If you're Town, you get the 3pp LyLo confTown role.

[saulres]

If you're Town, you get the 3pp LyLo confTown role.

He's already conftown. He didn't hammer you when he had the chance, and

you

haven't claimed a role which would make that a bad move for scum.

[Tierce]

If you're Town, you get the 3pp LyLo confTown role.

He's already conftown. He didn't hammer you when he had the chance, and

you

haven't claimed a role which would make that a bad move for scum.

Your point being? I didn't claim. That's why I am not voting you, Mr. Claimed VT. You are a free hammer. I'm not.

[Tierce]

90 minutes past bedtime. Enough.

[Zachrulez]

lol

[saulres]

You are a free hammer. I'm not.

I don't understand "free hammer", but please don't explain until after you've slept. I don't want a game to interfere with your life; I've had enough of that on my own side in the past I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Zach, please ask me whatever you need that'll help you make a decision.

[Zachrulez]

She's saying I'd be free to hammer you since you claimed VT, but she's claiming supersaint as well, by implication me hammering her would kill me. (Which doesn't matter to me if she's scum, it's still a town win.)

[saulres]

she's claiming supersaint as well

She is? Where?

[Zachrulez]

You're a free hammer, she is not. That's basically a supersaint softclaim.

[saulres]

Meh. Convenient of her to softclaim that after you outright claimed it. I don't buy it.

My vote is not moving off of her.

[Zachrulez]

Meh. Convenient of her to softclaim that after you outright claimed it. I don't buy it.

My vote is not moving off of her.

The beauty of it is you don't even have to move your vote off her.