Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Bacde]

Egg is casting a wide net in #769. Called or implied that 6 people were scum.

To be fair there are 5 Scum in the game, as has been hashed out to death like every five or so pages.

So I definitely fell asleep last night at around page 28. Gentlemen, here we go:

Updated reads list:
Town: Icebox (for uncc), Egg (for transparency), DBK (for sticking to his guns)
Lean Town: Klick (most recently, for apathy), Mac (because meta)
Null: Bulba (because I can't stop flipflopping), Bacde (for not having read back (there's some interesting stuff back there))
Lean Scum: tne (because 90% of his posts are unhelpful), Syr (because meta)
Scum: Autti (for being obvScum), fuzzy (in 99 posts, little substance, plus shitty "last reads" list)

Since there doesn't appear to be a wagon on Autti today...

Vote: fuzzy

That should be L-1.

90% unhelpful posts is tne's MO as town (probably as scum too but thats not a reason to scumread tne)

Syr is scum because meta and no explanation beyond that?

Also you have me as null "for not having read back" even though I've made a

HUGE, OPINIONATED

impact on the game as SOON as I entered?

yeah, GM is scum

this reads list is a cookie-cutter "muddy the waters" scum-reads list

[Bacde]

>.> I'll remember this, DBK.

quick who do we go after tomorrow

[fuzzybutternut]

You tell me.

[Does Bo Know]

GM's reads are pretty crap, tbh. Even his read on me is bogus (sticking to my guns? I think I've changed my mind enough this game to where sticking to my guns doesn't make sense to me). But why do you think Fuzzy is town now, Bacde?

[zabriel]

Vote Count 1.11

FBN (Syryana, Klick, Bulba, Egg, Autti, Goodmorning, DBK) - LYNCHED

Klick (Mac, FBN, Bacde, TNE) L-2

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

The crowd closed in around fuzzybutternut, ignoring his claims to innocence. As the sun began to set, he sensed his opportunity and let out a howl as his body began to change before the crowd's eyes. Unfortunately for Fuzzy, there were just too many villagers descending upon him too quickly. When the dust settled, 11 villagers stood back, feeling a sense of accomplishment as they looked upon the Werewolf's half transformed corpse.

Fuzzybutternut,

Werewolf

has been lynched. Night 1 will last until May 8th, 4pm EST.

[zabriel]

As the town slept,

Icebox the Seer

spent the night scrying in an attempt to find the final werewolf. As the night wore on and his focus deepened, he missed the sound of soft footsteps outside his door. He didn't notice anything until his door was ripped off its hinges and the final werewolf filled his door. He cast about desperately for a way out, but within moments the wolf was upon him.

Icebox, Town Seer

has been killed.

Day 2 will last until May 22nd, 3pm EST ((expired on 2013-05-22 15:00:00)). With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[Bacde]

well THATs a surprising kill

[Bacde]

GM's reads are pretty crap, tbh. Even his read on me is bogus (sticking to my guns? I think I've changed my mind enough this game to where sticking to my guns doesn't make sense to me). But why do you think Fuzzy is town now, Bacde?

I never thought fuzzy was town (well I did right after I replaced in but that changed pretty quickly)

[Bacde]

Autti/Klick/G_M

choose 1 to lynch everybody today is going to be a great day

[Bacde]

I think its more likely that the last werewolf bussed fuzzy than voted for klick

[goodmorning]

90% unhelpful posts is tne's MO as town (probably as scum too but thats not a reason to scumread tne)

Not in my experience with him.

Syr is scum because meta and no explanation beyond that?

Yes. As Town Syr's pretty blatantly obvious.

Also you have me as null "for not having read back" even though I've made a

HUGE, OPINIONATED

impact on the game as SOON as I entered?

1. Huge opinionated impacts are a null tell.
2. You're a hugely opinionated and impactful player, and playstyle's not a tell either.

(sticking to my guns? I think I've changed my mind enough this game to where sticking to my guns doesn't make sense to me).

Sticking to your guns where Scum would likely have chilled out and faded into the background. I'll try to find where I was looking when I said that.

Vote: autti

[Bacde]

90% unhelpful posts is tne's MO as town (probably as scum too but thats not a reason to scumread tne)

Not in my experience with him.

thats because in your experience with him you were scum

Syr is scum because meta and no explanation beyond that?

Yes. As Town Syr's pretty blatantly obvious.

great reasoning

Also you have me as null "for not having read back" even though I've made a

HUGE, OPINIONATED

impact on the game as SOON as I entered?

1. Huge opinionated impacts are a null tell.
2. You're a hugely opinionated and impactful player, and playstyle's not a tell either.

...

its not me being "huge" and "impactful" that should have you put me at somewhere other than null

its me taking stances on the game and pushing my reads. "Having a large effect on the game" isnt a tell, but if you analyze the effect itself you should be able to determine whether you think I have a scum motivation or town motivation. I've made my position on the game VERY clear. You have to decide whether you think that position is scum or town. Leaving me in null is scum-motivated imo

your vote is good though

[Does Bo Know]

I think its more likely that the last werewolf bussed fuzzy than voted for klick

Why?

VOTE: Autti

[Bacde]

I think its more likely that the last werewolf bussed fuzzy than voted for klick

Why?

VOTE: Autti

numbers for one

the majority of the town voted for fuzzy, while only 4 people voted for klick

also, besides fuzzy, I don't remember anyone hopping on the klick wagon with an outrageously shitty reason

also, fuzzy tried REALLY hard to force a not-werewolf tell (by asking towards the end "how many werewolves do we have? oh its 2 thanks wiki!"), which makes me think the wolves were trying really hard to force not-team tells, which probably includes bussing

plus if I was a werewolf I can see bussing my partner after the whole town is sure that my partner is scum

and also my gut says so

[Does Bo Know]

Okay, that makes sense.

I feel like Syryana is obvious town here for some reason. Why isn't he obvious town to you Bacde?

[Does Bo Know]

Wait, not to Bacde, to GM. Sorry

[Klick]

VOTE: Autti

Sheeping until either something looks better or I see a reason that Autti is town. With 4/10 scum and a ton of townreads, this seems simple.

[zabriel]

VC 2.0

Autti (Goodmorning, DBK, Klick) - L-3

[Syryana]

Autti/Klick/G_M

choose 1 to lynch everybody today is going to be a great day

This.

VOTE: Autti

[Does Bo Know]

>.> I'll remember this, DBK.

quick who do we go after tomorrow

This is what I was referring to when I asked why you thought Fuzzy was town.

[goodmorning]

I feel like Syryana is obvious town here for some reason. Why isn't he obvious town to you?

Blatant trolliness, for one thing.

[Bacde]

>.> I'll remember this, DBK.

quick who do we go after tomorrow

This is what I was referring to when I asked why you thought Fuzzy was town.

Yeah I knew what post you were referring to

you interpreted it incorrectly, I did not think fuzzy was town

I was just trying to see what information I could squeeze out

[Does Bo Know]

I feel like Syryana is obvious town here for some reason. Why isn't he obvious town to you?

Blatant trolliness, for one thing.

Huh?

[Bulbazak]

Going to respond to this, as I didn't have time on d1:

Can you explain your town read on goodmorning? He's someone I'm trying to understand a bit because I had a town read on zach and he doesn't look so town so I'm wrong somewhere considering he replaced zach.

I've played with GM as both alignments. This is looks more like town-GM.

While Autti is a good lynch, I'm not going to put him at L-1 so early in the day, especially since I don't think he's Fuzzy's partner. However, after doing a side-by-side ISO, I think I know who is.

Vote Egg

Called Fuzzy scum for most of the day, yet avoided the wagon until it started to gain traction after Bacde replaced in. Is eager to direct the NKs. When asked about which faction should be lynched, he preferred lynching Mafia over Werewolf. He's also been keeping his options open lynch-wise.

[Does Bo Know]

Hm...

I'll have to look at Egg later. It's a nice theory.