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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 9:58 am

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For the record, I do hear you about Malcolm and I've been considering it.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:05 am

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In post 514, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 492, xMALCOLMx wrote:
In post 89, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like I'm in a RK game and no one wants to do anything for fear of coming across scummy.
That place hasn't closed yet?
In post 97, Svenskt Stål wrote:I also dont like ametysth actor, taking a holliday as a hydra, wtf.
lmao
In post 99, Fuzzyman wrote:Malcolm, there are a lot of players right now with a lot worse reasons for their votes.
By worse, do you mean scummier?

I'm actually going to read this later. Too tired, too much going on. Soz.

You will never reach end game with this kind of input. Food for thought.
In post 637, Svenskt Stål wrote:We are not lynching Krabs today. That ouburst was fucking real. I know that frustration when people just put on their blunders and tunnel everything you do. Lets ive Krabs some time to do some actuall work on the game and not just defend himself.

Malcolm/ratedr/AA are slots that need pressure, and in my mind they are better votes than krabs to begin with.

Maybee I should do something usefull with my vote today, Malcolm slot is playing exactly like last game nacho scummed, short mass qoute answers that is giving us all very little, AA continues to feel wierd in that she has a problem joining the discussion and ratedr has not been productive either.
In post 692, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 687, xMALCOLMx wrote:
In post 682, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Isn't it a bit premature to ask someone to claim at L-4?

It's early,
which is why I asked.
The wagon off Krabs will probably end up in a lynch if it continues like this, and I would rather see what I'm working with. There are a couple other scumfucks in the horizon we
could
deal with if Krabs is town, but that towniness gotta shine through first.
Implies that you asked a question.


In post 679, xMALCOLMx wrote:
Krabs, claim now.
Is not a question.

In post 687, xMALCOLMx wrote:
In post 682, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Isn't it a bit premature to ask someone to claim at L-4?
The wagon off Krabs will probably end up in a lynch if it continues like this, and I would rather see what I'm working with.
There are a couple other scumfucks in the horizon
we
could
deal with if Krabs is town,
but that towniness gotta shine through first.
Who? And Why?

And what do you mean with "deal with if krabs is town?" Regardless of what he claims we can not for sure know that he is town... so are you talking about after a Krabs lynch?


Implies that you know he is town.




Malcolm is a very good vote.
In post 792, Svenskt Stål wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

Since so few are trying this game i feel forced to bank on gcbc not being scum day 1.

malcolm does nothing, will do nothing. just noise.

@ desp, understood.
In post 805, Svenskt Stål wrote:VOTE: arcangel

would have liked a malcolm wagon more thou. nacho is supposed to be a good player.
In post 809, Svenskt Stål wrote:she is posting in other places.

nacho lurking.
In post 876, Svenskt Stål wrote:Yeah.

VOTE: Malcolm

Serious vote. I have a hard time beliving that this is the great nachomammas town game, it just isnt. Its identical to the amnesiac game where nacho and me was scum. He posts short message, replying to everyone, never sticks neck out with a read, never probes other players.

I have read some of nachos town games,... some (like street racer) are just so different that its comical. In that game he posts lists, exlpains thoughts in long ass posts, interogates suspects and just roams arround being a badass. Then there are games where he seems detached, but he still has that stinger when interacting with others.

I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR NACHO.
GOOD LYNCH.
NAY, BEST LYNCH.
In post 918, Svenskt Stål wrote:i dont get why the malcolm wagon is so hard to push. Look at what malcolm is posting, there is close to nothing in terms of thoughts on the game, its just endless short questions, or sometimes comments that leaves much to be desired.

Also notice that he hasnt even refuted my claim that this isnt nachos town game.

This is most of my posts regarding the hydra malcolm of nacho/kise.

Ferret and nero, I seriously sudgest that you read a few of nachos town games and then the manesiac game where he was scum, and tell me which one this looks like, its very clear to me.

I am loosing some faith in gcbc being scum, dont know if its just general doubt... would be so wierd to completely flip 180 on 2 players within like 20 minutes, I dont think town does that. Not that extreme... but as of late he seems to be doing better.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:09 am

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ferret and nero... i meant that as instead of "looking on that booring as wall of qoutes".

but be openminded, i might be missing stuff. Its just that the last game I played I was scumming with nacho and this looks like that.
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:14 am

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I'm seeing how that could be, but I don't think that the lynch is going to happen. I'll vote for pressure.

UNVOTE: ARCANGEL9
VOTE: xMALCOMx
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:16 am

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Have faith brother, miracles have havent before.


VOTE: malcolm
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:16 am

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have happened.

jfc
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:22 am

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Let's try to bring it up to 4-5 votes and then see how malcom responds to it.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 10:26 am

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nero, join this clean wagon.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:04 am

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[Kise]
In post 881, Ravenpaw wrote:So Rated R still doesn't answer me, I'm guessing that's because he can't.
Same. Shame, I didn't want them to die either. I know at least Raaize should have responded since Vif was away. But like I said, it looks like they crumbed traitor.
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In post 763, ferretlover wrote:If you were drunk then why be on the internet in the first place.

You also said "it reflects bad on your alignment", which makes it sound like your already know my alignment. Explain?

Okay, seriously.

I cannot tell if you're a Mormon or a Moron, but you should probably stop this. If ANYTHING, you should encourage drunk posting. Why? Because people make stupid mistakes when they're drunk, like scumslipping.

Your pursuit of me based on my playing while inebriated is silly. I enjoy having fun sober. I enjoy having fun while drinking. I am a remarkably responsible person in both states, and drinking makes me no more likely to be scum than playing while sober.

Your implication that one should not bother being on the Internet while drunk is condescending and dismissive.

Please knock it off.
You don't spend much time scumhunting. It would be helpful if you listed a proper defense of the Krab wagon. What is LVG?

Alright Nero. I can vote this too.
In post 916, Jebus wrote:I don't get the Krab wagon either. Why do we think it's worth perusing?
Except we know you don't actively follow the thread so why bother explaining
In post 918, Svenskt Stål wrote:i dont get why the malcolm wagon is so hard to push. Look at what malcolm is posting, there is close to nothing in terms of thoughts on the game, its just endless short questions, or sometimes comments that leaves much to be desired.

Also notice that he hasnt even refuted my claim that this isnt nachos town game.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4935277

This is retaliatory as fuck now that I think about it. Remember that special note about you at the bottom?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4925973

Yeah. Where has your poking gone today? I'm curious to know if you weren't just trying to look busy. I also don't blame Nacho for not engaging in this alpha male BS with you.
In post 938, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Since it's getting close to deadline, I need to go on the wagon more likely to go through, I guess.

Unvote:
Vote: GCBC
eh..Krab was 4 votes away from lynch and also a blank slot. GCBC was 6 votes away from a lynch at the time.
ferretlover wrote:Let's try to bring it up to 4-5 votes and then see how malcom responds to it.
eh? 951 is mostly aimed at Nacho except the piece where I was too tired to catch up. I think it's weak to pick on Nacho for mistyping about a question when he really didn't ask a question. That doesn't change that Nacho wanted a claim while it was still early. I can't defend a meta tell but from the looks of things, Svet is using one game as an example. I could tell you that playstyle doesn't always relate to alignment, but there's no real defense against that kind of accusation. I haven't read Amnesiac mafia because I don't need to. Nacho and I are town.

My reads haven't changed other than RatedR. That's about it.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:15 am

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Sven, I am reading the thread and I don't like the reason on Cops. if there is a good reason, it's not coming from you because it isn't present in your Iso, I am reading I wouldn't be able to make questions and comments if I wasn't.

I will say the vote on Malcom is shit, because it is shit. they are so transparently town that I have no fucking clue to why you are scum reading them, all I can see is "Nacho is lurking" which is a shitty reason to have to vote for anyone

and even so, you ignore a fair amount of other lurkers who have done nothing. You still havn't addressed that point.

Questions are easy to post as scum, sure but they are my biggest weapon in games, especially in larges and it doesn't help when people decide to ignore them
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:20 am

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and for ferret's question to me...

It's because I'm obv bussing my buddy and you should join me?

I don't like Desperado's quick defense of that question, though what he stated was true. Krabs is scum for the reasons I have stated in thread, for his actions and reactions to things and how he decides to attack people. He also gave off a little scum AtE in the "soft-claiming" thing that should have gotten him auto-lynched.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:38 am

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To kinda clarify, his case is that Nacho lurked as scum in another game, therefore his [minimal appearance] in this game means he's mafia again.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:49 am

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Where is the goat vote at Kise?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:25 pm

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In post 961, xMALCOLMx wrote:To kinda clarify, his case is that Nacho lurked as scum in another game, therefore his [minimal appearance] in this game means he's mafia again.
This is shit reason though IMO, he's lurked as town too so using that as a tell is null.
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:33 pm

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You know, I've seen quite a few players say "I don't really think Krab is a good lynch choice for today," but I have yet to see anybody say "Lynching Krab is a bad idea because he's Town; here are the reasons why." Nero is the only one who has even attempted to assert that Krab is Town, but I think even he will admit that it wasn't exactly the most compelling case ever made.

Some people don't want to lynch Krab. I get that. But why is Krab Town? What Towny thing has Krab done that makes it worthwhile to keep him around?
In post 932, RATEDR wrote:
In post 931, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Just lynch Krab already. He replaced out as soon as we caught him.
I don't think this is the case. Also, this might be a little bit cheap of me, but the fact he replaced out kind of gave me Town vibes.

-Grazie
How so? Have you never seen Scum replace out of a game before?
In post 946, ferretlover wrote:I don't feel like there are any good lynches today, so should I just vote No Lynch?
On day one? Absolutely not. How do you propose we catch the Scum team if we don't lynch anybody?
In post 948, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am still open to lynching malcolm if you or anyoneelse is interested.
Sven, cut it out. Your insistence on a Malcolm lynch is starting to become a detriment -- to the point where I'm beginning to suspect that you know this and you're doing it on purpose.

Do you honestly believe that Malcolm is getting lynched today? If so, I have a follow-up question:
have you seen this player list?
Half the players in this game are either V/LA, lurking, or worthless -- or a combination of all three. You could present the most incredible case on Malcolm in the history of Mafiascum, but that doesn't change the fact that there simply
is not enough time
to build an 11-person wagon from scratch less than 48 hours before the deadline when there are still so many players here who won't stop dragging their feet.

We have three choices today and
only
three choices:
1.) Lynch Krab Bucket
2.) Lynch GoodCopBadCop
3.) No-lynch (This is the wrong choice, by the way)

Everybody pick one.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:46 pm

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In post 960, Amethyst Actor wrote:I don't like Desperado's quick defense of that question, though what he stated was true.
What didn't you like about it? Ferret asked a stupid question that could have been posed to anyone, so I answered it while redirecting him to the task at hand--picking a viable lynch candidate. The fact that his response to this was to start a brand new Malcolm wagon with Sven pretty much speaks for itself. Anyone trying to further fracture the town at this juncture is extremely suspicious to me.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 1:13 pm

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In post 959, Amethyst Actor wrote:I will say the vote on Malcom is shit, because it is shit. they are so transparently town that I have no fucking clue to why you are scum reading them, all I can see is "Nacho is lurking" which is a shitty reason to have to vote for anyone
lmfao if you believe this
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 1:24 pm

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In post 962, Nero Cain wrote:Where is the goat vote at Kise?
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Let's be reasonable. Goat is not a viable lynch today. Most of the playerbase's energy has gone towards Krabs.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 1:25 pm

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EBWOP

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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 1:27 pm

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Kise: On a scale of 1-10 how much do you think Goat is scum?

Sven: On a scale of 1-10 how much do you think Malcolm is scum?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 1:27 pm

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In post 951, Svenskt Stål wrote: I am loosing some faith in gcbc being scum, dont know if its just general doubt... would be so wierd to completely flip 180 on 2 players within like 20 minutes, I dont think town does that. Not that extreme... but as of late he seems to be doing better.
Are you losing faith in GCBC being scum, or in the town's ability to lynch him today? Hmm...
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 1:56 pm

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Nachomamma was a SK in Star Wars: Legacy of the Force mafia, which I ran.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 2:37 pm

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In post 971, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Nachomamma was a SK in Star Wars: Legacy of the Force mafia, which I ran.
That's nice. Would you care to talk about how his play in that game compares to this one and what that means, or are you just going to leave it to our imagination?
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 2:44 pm

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Or you could be reading the game instead of asking him... :roleyes:
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 2:45 pm

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:rolleyes: FML
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