NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

mastin2 · Post Post #725 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:47 am

<<< As the day drags on, Oversoul shifts out of the group's focus. Slowly but surely,

Bacde

spearheads a new angle, attacking one strong advocate of lynching Oversoul,

Nachomamma8

.

Nero breaks his silence, at first going elsewhere, but later joining the crusade against Nacho. Though there is some brief confusion about why the mute was suddenly vocal, everyone eventually shrugs it off and some even join him.

In fact, despite only a couple of hours having passed, the suspicion on Oversoul seems to have all-but vanished, with Nacho now dominating strongly.
So, too, has the suspicion on

BeautyAndTheBeast

gone away, as people learned to accept this two-people-in-one-person for who they are.

...In fact, someone else decides to join in the fun!

Human Destroyer

, who had been a normal guy (other than his nickname being Human Destroyer), suddenly gains an alter-ego

Om

and insists on being called

Om the Destroyer

, despite himself answering to Skull and Peter.

...Well, it IS a maniacal street, so this kind of craziness is not to be unexpected. After a few moments of shrugging, everyone adapts--everyone, that is, except for

Bulbazak

, who goes at his throat and throws accusations of him faking a very real disorder. This, in turn, ticks off Om the Destroyer, and a shouting match ensues.

A shouting match so brutal that other members of the town have to keep the two from strangling each other. "End of the day! Wait until the end of the day! For that!" >>>

Seventeenth Votecount

:

(

AKA, the "Flavored update" votecount

)

Nachomamma8 - 4 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Amethyst Kitty)

Oversoul - 2 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie)

BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Cephrir, EddieFenix)
Red Ryu - 2 (Oversoul, Thor665)
Cephrir - 2 (fuzzybutternut, BeautyAndTheBeast)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Bulbazak - 1 (Om the Destroyer)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Voting - 9 (Mac, Syryana, Desperado, Baby Spice, Slandaar, Seanald, ActionDan, Rondar, ArcAngel9)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Spoiler: changes from last official votecount

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Spoiler: Voting History

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #726 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:49 am

In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ (Applies to big wall post too)

well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #727 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:50 am

Mollie, Mollie, we are still here. We havn't left you, we never will

and I'm inclined to believe that Bulb is hard-core buddying many people us included... I'm not sure why though

and HD, just because Mala didn't express a Nacho scum read in the game, doesn't mean she doesn't have it. I would show you proof if I was allowed to

and what I don't get is why you got on her case for not voting whilst voicing suspicion on people. You know my Meta when it comes to voting, as does she, and I am part of this Hydra so I think it could have been fair to assume that she wanted to see if I was ok with w/e vote was being placed.

What's bad with my jump on Nacho? What about it don't you like?

We have a few scum reads that we share and Nacho is one of them, some of the others I will with-hold until I get an answer from Nacho

we both have OS as glaringly obvious town though, and we are both leaning town on the Disney Hydra

-Mara

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #728 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:51 am

In post 726, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ (Applies to big wall post too)
well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.

I still think it has basis, I see obvious scum motivation behind it.

And yes, that is a chainsaw defense and I know what it means. Half of Bulbazak's wall basically attacks my B&TB scumread.

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #729 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:52 am

In post 724, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: so you are chick huh
Nah, dude. Just wanted to have some fun with you.

In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: why are you hardcore buddying us? cos that is what you are doing and while majiffy will be flattered, I am not impressed. you seem to "have meta" on majiffy when you have stated that you have never played with him before.
When I was preparing for my first Mafia game, I read many games, several of which happened to have Majiffy in them. Your hydra's actions during pre-game gave me a very strong townread of you. Om was presenting an argument that was so stupid that I felt I had to address it. I tend to defend my townreads, especially when it's over something as dumb as what Om presented. However, when he actually had a decent point, I didn't say anything.

P-edit: I'll get to Om's wall later. Right now I'm going to eat.

I don't remember anybody asking you to defend your town read on us what you are doing is wking which something totally different and is an typical objective scumtell although I know some town do it too but usually only with players you know pretty well. you don't know us so why are you doing it

what did you see in our early posting that made you put us as town

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #730 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:54 am

In post 727, Amethyst Kitty wrote:and HD, just because Mala didn't express a Nacho scum read in the game, doesn't mean she doesn't have it. I would show you proof if I was allowed to

and what I don't get is why you got on her case for not voting whilst voicing suspicion on people. You know my Meta when it comes to voting, as does she, and I am part of this Hydra so I think it could have been fair to assume that she wanted to see if I was ok with w/e vote was being placed.

What's bad with my jump on Nacho? What about it don't you like?

The timing of the jump.

It seemed opportunistic to me and you're "oh she was just withholding it she actually had a nacho scumread the whole time!" is a fairly basic and weak excuse that's impossible to prove.

My other point was that you were going for the whole "Oh we're waiting for the other head's consent to vote" but then you voted with what seemed to be a lack of consent from Mala. This is a disconnect.

~

(I keep forgetting to sign these things, sorry)

Nero Cain · Post Post #731 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:54 am

I'll tell you what I don't like. You're vote was the 4th vote on Nacho. Now of course you can easily saw "oh well we were behind and didn't know there was a nacho wagon." but its incredibly convenient me thinks.

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #732 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:55 am

In post 729, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 724, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: so you are chick huh
Nah, dude. Just wanted to have some fun with you.

In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: why are you hardcore buddying us? cos that is what you are doing and while majiffy will be flattered, I am not impressed. you seem to "have meta" on majiffy when you have stated that you have never played with him before.
When I was preparing for my first Mafia game, I read many games, several of which happened to have Majiffy in them. Your hydra's actions during pre-game gave me a very strong townread of you. Om was presenting an argument that was so stupid that I felt I had to address it. I tend to defend my townreads, especially when it's over something as dumb as what Om presented. However, when he actually had a decent point, I didn't say anything.

P-edit: I'll get to Om's wall later. Right now I'm going to eat.
I don't remember anybody asking you to defend your town read on us what you are doing is wking which something totally different and is an typical objective scumtell although I know some town do it too but usually only with players you know pretty well. you don't know us so why are you doing it

what did you see in our early posting that made you put us as town

Wait so you aren't scum with Bulbazak?
Shit.

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Om the Destroyer · Post Post #733 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:55 am

In post 731, Nero Cain wrote:I'll tell you what I don't like. You're vote was the 4th vote on Nacho. Now of course you can easily saw "oh well we were behind and didn't know there was a nacho wagon." but its incredibly convenient me thinks.

Please vote Bulbazak.

~

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #734 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:56 am

VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.

Nero Cain · Post Post #735 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:58 am

but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #736 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:59 am

In post 728, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 726, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ (Applies to big wall post too)
well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.
I still think it has basis, I see obvious scum motivation behind it.

And yes, that is a chainsaw defense and I know what it means. Half of Bulbazak's wall basically attacks my B&TB scumread.

it is only a chainsaw defense if you have a flip on scum. otherwise it is just a word salad tossed with hot air in order to firm up a weakass case

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #737 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:00 pm

Well, that was the time I had just returned from V/LA and as for the disconnect, it isn't there. I had asked her in skype if we could vote Nacho and she agreed.

You also don't answer why you questioned Mala's not voting when you know that

my

Meta demands that I don't vote anyone unless I am certain that said person is scum and when I am a part of this Hydra

we could just as easily Vote another scum read we share but I like Nacho's wagon better

-Mara

Pedit: we are not using that excuse Nero, and it's the 4th vote out of 13 votes needed. I hardly call it a forming wagon at this stage

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #738 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:00 pm

In post 735, Nero Cain wrote:but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.

If Bulbazak is scum (which he probably is) I'm starting to realize B&TB would actually be town.
Read my wall post on the last page. Hell, just look at the tl;dr.
This should end with you voting him.

OS I really don't give a fuck about right now. We can sort him out later.

Also Nacho isn't as bad as you're saying he is and some of the people on that wagon (Red Ryu, Amethyst) aren't town at all.

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Om the Destroyer · Post Post #739 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:02 pm

In post 736, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 728, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 726, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ (Applies to big wall post too)
well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.
I still think it has basis, I see obvious scum motivation behind it.

And yes, that is a chainsaw defense and I know what it means. Half of Bulbazak's wall basically attacks my B&TB scumread.
it is only a chainsaw defense if you have a flip on scum. otherwise it is just a word salad tossed with hot air in order to firm up a weakass case

How can you possibly call the case weak?

He misrepped our hydra, Amethyst Kitty, and himself 20 times, all in one post!

And I'm realizing now this chainsaw defense is probably part of a WK, so please vote Bulbazak.

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Om the Destroyer · Post Post #740 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:03 pm

In post 737, Amethyst Kitty wrote:You also don't answer why you questioned Mala's not voting when you know that my Meta demands that I don't vote anyone unless I am certain that said person is scum and when I am a part of this Hydra

we could just as easily Vote another scum read we share but I like Nacho's wagon better

1) You aren't the same person.
2) Again, there's literally no indication except your own word (which we don't know is trustworthy) that Mala had and still has a scumread on Nacho.

Mac · Post Post #741 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:05 pm

In post 734, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.

If Om jumped off a cliff, would you follow him?

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #742 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:05 pm

In post 735, Nero Cain wrote:but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.

if nero was ever actually

not

a retard in a game I probably would be very suspicious

Om the Destroyer · Post Post #743 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:06 pm

In post 741, Mac wrote:
In post 734, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.
If Om jumped off a cliff, would you follow him?

Did you even read the post or did you just decide to make a weak jab at Fuzzy out of nowhere?

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Nero Cain · Post Post #744 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:08 pm

I'll read Bulb more in detail later but my gut reaction says town, B&TB might be town 'cause Maj prob would put a leash on scummy/dumb as fuck Mollie. Ditto for OS, seems like he's more careful as scum. Though either way I don't really care about their alignments and I think its in the best intrest of the town to get rid of them. I think Nacho is scum.

<<< Deleted double-post. >>>

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #745 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:14 pm

In post 652, Oversoul wrote:
In post 626, Amethyst Kitty wrote:His suggestion to mass-claim seems genuine IMO and Nacho has done far more scummier stuff other then the mass-claim anyway
It's alignment neutral.

CTD did it in the recently finished invitational NY game as scum traitor. However, he did do much more in my opinion here to try and get mass claim to occur than in that game.

Are you following that thread in MD stating that Nacho's summary is a scumtell?

Following it? I made that thread. why? what's the reason for you posting this, I'm obviously aware of the tell otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up and neither would have Mala. I also wouldn't have brought up stats if I didn't know about it...

-Mara

Mac · Post Post #746 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:21 pm

In post 743, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 741, Mac wrote:
In post 734, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.
If Om jumped off a cliff, would you follow him?
Did you even read the post or did you just decide to make a weak jab at Fuzzy out of nowhere?

~

Did fuzzy?

& yes, I just did it now. Waiting on Bulba's response.

Nero Cain · Post Post #747 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:35 pm

Mollie,

you had a chance to clarify that you weren't calling me scum but didn't.
you've been here nearly a year and show no signs of even giving a shit about how mafia is played here.

For the love of anything holy, please shut the fuck up.

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #748 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:47 pm

dear nero,

stop being a colossal douchebag and focus on the game cos otherwise you are putting on the hypocritical tighty whities cos what you are doing is anti-town right now if you are indeed town which I am leaning on

for the love anything holy, leave me the fuck alone

Baby Spice · Post Post #749 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:57 pm

Thor is town. Him I can read.

Vote Red Ryuwhatsit

Didn't like Red's early posts anywat.

Also think Om's posts were scummy, though now Destroyer has started posting they improve a little.

However the wall fest doesn't read ad town on town and B&B do read as town.

Ceph is also in the scum read list.

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