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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 3:45 am

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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 4:38 am

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In post 1169, Fuzzyman wrote:When I think of "multiball", I think of two scum groups, not a scum group and a neutral group. (And how often do you see neutral
groups
anyways? You really stuck onto that idea quick.)
Because the name is "
WWE Believe in the Shield Day
". That kinda gives a hint that we are looking at a 3 man scum team.

Other scum groups does not make sense given the name.

Neutral does.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 4:41 am

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In post 1171, Mutleyddmc wrote:
In post 1152, ferretlover wrote:So a 1-Shot Day-Vig I'm assuming? Dammit RoleCop gone. That sux man.
Hate posts like this. Scream scum to me.
WHats wrong with it?
In post 1173, Fuzzyman wrote:Mourning kills is a scumtell.

Ehh... "okay".
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 4:45 am

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Okay so theory time.

Why scum killed GCBC.

Yes this is a reach.

Lets say Malcolm is scum, he is getting closer to lynch so what does scum do?
They would know that GCBC was not scum, so they could kill him, and point a finger to me saying "ohhh look at this person, pushing town".

This is very iffy and we should not put any weight into it, I am just trying to understand the kill.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 4:45 am

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In post 1170, Nexus wrote:
Deadline is in 7 days.
GREATEST DAY EVER!

THANKS MOD.

SCUM ARE DEMOROLIZED.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 4:52 am

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So there are two scum groups (Or at least two groups of non-townies) is my guess. The SHIELD is self explanatory, but for those who don't know, people who ally themselves with Paul Hayman in the WWE are generally seen as heels and bad dudes.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 5:31 am

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In post 1176, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 1169, Fuzzyman wrote:When I think of "multiball", I think of two scum groups, not a scum group and a neutral group. (And how often do you see neutral
groups
anyways? You really stuck onto that idea quick.)
Because the name is "
WWE Believe in the Shield Day
". That kinda gives a hint that we are looking at a 3 man scum team.

Other scum groups does not make sense given the name.

Neutral does.
If you admittedly know absolutely nothing about the flavor, why on earth would you say something like "other scum groups does not make sense given the name?" And you are making a pretty crazy logical leap here. It says "Believe in the Shield," yes, so why can't there be a rival scum team that is also looking to take control? Why do the Heyman's being scum not make sense?
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 5:34 am

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In post 1155, Svenskt Stål wrote:This heyman fella, is this someone who could have like a 3 man team or something? Would that fit within the wrastlin lore?

Or do we have free roamers
Like you even ask if it would fit, and then multiple people tell you "absolutely yes it would," and yet you still say it doesn't make sense because of The Name?
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 5:43 am

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And that kill doesn't really change anything for me. Either he was bussing Krab or, more likely, he was legitimately scumhunting and just helped catch Krab. Krab and GCBC both being scum could also explain why these wagons have dragged so much.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 5:47 am

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Those posts as fuzzy said are scum tells. They are over forced etc. although he was wrong on the fact that it was a bad thing for the town. If it was town cop say. We know its bad no need to say oh darn. Just gloating really
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 5:55 am

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In post 1181, Desperado wrote:
In post 1176, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 1169, Fuzzyman wrote:When I think of "multiball", I think of two scum groups, not a scum group and a neutral group. (And how often do you see neutral
groups
anyways? You really stuck onto that idea quick.)
Because the name is "
WWE Believe in the Shield Day
". That kinda gives a hint that we are looking at a 3 man scum team.

Other scum groups does not make sense given the name.

Neutral does.
If you admittedly know absolutely nothing about the flavor, why on earth would you say something like "other scum groups does not make sense given the name?" And you are making a pretty crazy logical leap here. It says "Believe in the Shield," yes, so why can't there be a rival scum team that is also looking to take control? Why do the Heyman's being scum not make sense?
Dont really hink this is worth discussing anymore since we now know that there is neutrals and scum.
If you view them as "scum" or "neutral" is just wording, they are an anti town faction with no knowledge of other anti town factions.

But yes, I guess there could have been another "scum" group. But neutrals would be more logical because of the name.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 5:56 am

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OK, as I reread all of your posts I realized it could be a semantic issue. What do you think about what I said in 1183?
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:00 am

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In post 1182, Desperado wrote:
In post 1155, Svenskt Stål wrote:This heyman fella, is this someone who could have like a 3 man team or something? Would that fit within the wrastlin lore?

Or do we have free roamers
Like you even ask if it would fit, and then multiple people tell you "absolutely yes it would," and yet you still say it doesn't make sense because of The Name?
Wtf are you talking about?
I didnt know who heyman was. I now do.
In post 1183, Desperado wrote:And that kill doesn't really change anything for me. Either he was bussing Krab or, more likely, he was legitimately scumhunting and just helped catch Krab. Krab and GCBC both being scum could also explain why these wagons have dragged so much.
Explain how the kill is bussing Krabs?

And who is genuinely scumhunting?

Krab and gcbc are not both scum, thats a known fact. This is the problem with viewing all "anti town factions" as group "scum". They can both be anti town, there is a big diffrence.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:01 am

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We could regard them as "Scum Group A" and "Scum Group B" or SGA and SGB for short.
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:02 am

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Or does this idea suck D:
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:03 am

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In post 1184, Mutleyddmc wrote:Those posts as fuzzy said are scum tells. They are over forced etc. although he was wrong on the fact that it was a bad thing for the town. If it was town cop say. We know its bad no need to say oh darn. Just gloating really

In my opinion this is a very player dependent tell. Some people are just impulsive (i know i am) and I could easily cheer a neutral death, or lash out in anger over a town death.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:04 am

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In post 1188, ferretlover wrote:We could regard them as "Scum Group A" and "Scum Group B" or SGA and SGB for short.
Or we could just view them as
shield
and
heymans
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:05 am

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shield could be SGA and heymans could be SGB...
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:05 am

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What we should be discussing is why
shield
killed GCBC.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:09 am

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I think that it's just WIFOM.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:11 am

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In post 1187, Svenskt Stål wrote:Explain how the kill is bussing Krabs?

And who is genuinely scumhunting?

Krab and gcbc are not both scum, thats a known fact. This is the problem with viewing all "anti town factions" as group "scum". They can both be anti town, there is a big diffrence.
I said best case scenario
GCBC was bussing Krab
, as in Krab is also on aligned with Heyman. Alternatively, GCBC was genuinely scumhunting and caught Shield-aligned Krab.

And there is no functional difference. They are not aligned with the town, so they are scum. My role PM says that all threats to the town must be eliminated. It does not differentiate between threats, therefore anyone who is not aligned with me is scum. It is not a "known fact" that they are not both scum.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:14 am

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In post 1193, Svenskt Stål wrote:What we should be discussing is why
shield
killed GCBC.
Who cares? GCBC is dead and he wasn't town, that's all that matters. How is talking about why going to help us catch scum?
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:14 am

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Ferret.

Stop saying wifom. Its a word that shant be spoketh.

Can they be messing with us? YES
Can there be legit reason as to why they killed GCBC? YES

Its just more pieces of the puzzle, dont throw them away couse you hate puzzles.






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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:19 am

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In post 1195, Desperado wrote:
In post 1187, Svenskt Stål wrote:Explain how the kill is bussing Krabs?

And who is genuinely scumhunting?

Krab and gcbc are not both scum, thats a known fact. This is the problem with viewing all "anti town factions" as group "scum". They can both be anti town, there is a big diffrence.
I said best case scenario
GCBC was bussing Krab
, as in Krab is also on aligned with Heyman. Alternatively, GCBC was genuinely scumhunting and caught Shield-aligned Krab.

And there is no functional difference. They are not aligned with the town, so they are scum. My role PM says that all threats to the town must be eliminated. It does not differentiate between threats, therefore anyone who is not aligned with me is scum. It is not a "known fact" that they are not both scum.
The diffrence my friend is in knowledge. Grouping them as "scum" takes away the element of them knowing eachothers alignments.
It is a known fact that they are not scum because gcbc was not scum.

So in your mind krab is either heyman or shield? You have way to much confidence in your reads bro.

GCBC probably just tried to blend in and push people.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 6:19 am

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In post 1197, Svenskt Stål wrote:Can they be messing with us? YES
Can there be legit reason as to why they killed GCBC? YES
Is talking about it ever going to bring us to a conclusion on which it was? NO

Which is why we shouldn't talk about it, and focus on catching scum, not baseless kill speculation.
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