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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 7:49 am

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In post 1249, RATEDR wrote:
In post 1248, ferretlover wrote:
In post 1235, RATEDR wrote:Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell
Since I said it was.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 7:50 am

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In post 1247, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1245, Desperado wrote:
In post 1241, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1145, petapan wrote:
In post 1144, Desperado wrote:
In post 1137, petapan wrote:desperado is slightly above scum on my list i think because he asked for a claim from sven after the fake dayvig which is scumshit but i haven't noticed anything otherwise
No I didn't. I was asking GoodCopBadCop to claim. Sven wasn't even present IIRC
oh i'm an idiot i just reread that ok read rescinded
I don't really understand this part.

Why would you think it was scummy of Despo to ask Sven to claim?

Why is he no longer scummy for asking GCBC to claim after the fake daykill?
Unless I'm mistaken you're the only one who thinks this. You've made no effort to engage me in a discussion about it, despite multiple efforts on my part, choosing instead to just keep parroting it as if the matter is already settled...to the point where I'm beginning to think it's just not worth mentioning anymore. If you aren't going to make a good faith effort, then why should I?
I'm obviously asking Petapan a question and I don't get why you are butting in said discussion.
Because the question that you're asking a) directly involves me and b) directly involves a line of questioning I've been asking you about for over a dozen pages now.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 7:51 am

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No SGR lets vote Doctor C
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 7:51 am

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Bigger fish to fry homeboi
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 7:54 am

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So vote for me then pressure another vote. What are you doing?

You just made my scumtell on you more massive.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:00 am

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In post 1168, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 1166, Fuzzyman wrote:You must not know the flavor that well.

Paul Heyman is a manager (agent, advocate, whatever) for CM Punk and Brock Lesnar, both of whom are portrayed as bad guys.

This is an example of who Heyman and Lesnar are.

This has got to be multiball.
Well I knew this was multi ball before the kill, you cant have a scum team of 3 against 18 townies.

I know pretty much nothing about wrestling, true.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:05 am

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horrible vote. I'm assuming its TAM.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:05 am

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What's "TAM"?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:06 am

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In post 1232, ferretlover wrote:RATEDR and xMALCOMx have already been explained. Not sure about fuzzy, however.

I agree I would be fine with an xMALCOMx or RATEDR lynch today.
I have the same itch that nero has, nero has called out almost everypost I feel bad with. Fuzzys post about "wanting malcolm dead or i am pissed" got me to unvote... but i dont know.. i am back in the saddle for now.
In post 1233, Nero Cain wrote:no, we should be lynching Goat or Despo.
Not despo, my read is noob town. Goat is okay but not great. Keep pressure on malcolm, nacho should be able to come across as town if he is one.
In post 1234, ferretlover wrote:Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR. Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

VOTE: RATEDR
Uhm, malcolm was one vote from being tied lead wagon...
In post 1235, RATEDR wrote:Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell
Its not, but it is anti town. Ask yourself how we should know that you are town?...you are putting in no work, you are not even reading the game, why should we let you stick arround?
In post 1237, RATEDR wrote:
In post 1178, Svenskt Stål wrote:Okay so theory time.

Why scum killed GCBC.

Yes this is a reach.
Not at all a reach, I hate to speculate flavor, but I will do so anyways.

One of the big defining things about The Shield is that they come out of nowhere (through the crowd, sometimes after lights turn off ala Undertaker) to attack someone. It is very possible that The Shield has a 1-shot day-vig as long as they're united. Or better yet, perhaps the flavor is that they can't do their kill at night, and must do it at day.

That said, it doesn't explain why they'd get GoodCopBadCop, which was kind of obvious Mafia from the beginning, so I guess maybe it was a vig from Town and the flavor is just that The Shield kills everyone in this game...? Sorry, flavor-speculation, I'm just interested in it, I can't wait for the OP to reveal the roles at the end.
Good, but I want more. you basicly just started with the question "why id they kill gcbc, and ended with the question. I dont think all kills are shield flavored. Until we see ALOT of kills that are shield flavored and no other flavors of death then you shouldnt think so either.
In post 1243, RATEDR wrote:I think sven wasn't trying to make a case when he quoted those things, I just think he was being a jerk and calling us bad players who don't give effort and shit.

-Grazie
I am not a jerk. You come in here, asking to lynch someone because you dont like any wagons and you havent read the last 40 pages. What I do is I hold you accountable for that. Because to me its shit. And I want to get that message across. Work with me and you will have no problems with me.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:06 am

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Jeff Hardy v The Undertaker, Ladder Match (Raw, July 1 2002)


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Fuzzyman,
RATEDR (1)-
ferretlover
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RATEDR
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Jebus, Darthe, ArcAngel9, Desperado, penguin_alien, Doctor C. Niall DeMencha, xMALCOLMx, Mutleyddmc, Ravenpaw, petapan, Skullduggery, MonkeyMan576, TheEsquire, The Goat, Svenskt Stål, Nero Cain

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline is at 3pm GMT on Saturday 19th May 2013
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:06 am

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In post 1256, Nero Cain wrote:horrible vote. I'm assuming its TAM.
I wouldnt.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:08 am

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Sven is a huge jerk btw
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:09 am

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In post 1259, Nexus wrote:
Jeff Hardy v The Undertaker, Ladder Match (Raw, July 1 2002)


Votecount 1.17:


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With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline is at 3pm GMT on Saturday 19th May 2013
Looks like the kill also resets all votes.

Vote: mutleyddmc
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:11 am

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VOTE: malcolm
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:11 am

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In post 1258, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 1232, ferretlover wrote:RATEDR and xMALCOMx have already been explained. Not sure about fuzzy, however.

I agree I would be fine with an xMALCOMx or RATEDR lynch today.
I have the same itch that nero has, nero has called out almost everypost I feel bad with. Fuzzys post about "wanting malcolm dead or i am pissed" got me to unvote... but i dont know.. i am back in the saddle for now.
In post 1233, Nero Cain wrote:no, we should be lynching Goat or Despo.
Not despo, my read is noob town. Goat is okay but not great. Keep pressure on malcolm, nacho should be able to come across as town if he is one.
In post 1234, ferretlover wrote:Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR. Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

VOTE: RATEDR
Uhm, malcolm was one vote from being tied lead wagon...
In post 1235, RATEDR wrote:Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell
Its not, but it is anti town. Ask yourself how we should know that you are town?...you are putting in no work, you are not even reading the game, why should we let you stick arround?
In post 1237, RATEDR wrote:
In post 1178, Svenskt Stål wrote:Okay so theory time.

Why scum killed GCBC.

Yes this is a reach.
Not at all a reach, I hate to speculate flavor, but I will do so anyways.

One of the big defining things about The Shield is that they come out of nowhere (through the crowd, sometimes after lights turn off ala Undertaker) to attack someone. It is very possible that The Shield has a 1-shot day-vig as long as they're united. Or better yet, perhaps the flavor is that they can't do their kill at night, and must do it at day.

That said, it doesn't explain why they'd get GoodCopBadCop, which was kind of obvious Mafia from the beginning, so I guess maybe it was a vig from Town and the flavor is just that The Shield kills everyone in this game...? Sorry, flavor-speculation, I'm just interested in it, I can't wait for the OP to reveal the roles at the end.
Good, but I want more. you basicly just started with the question "why id they kill gcbc, and ended with the question. I dont think all kills are shield flavored. Until we see ALOT of kills that are shield flavored and no other flavors of death then you shouldnt think so either.
In post 1243, RATEDR wrote:I think sven wasn't trying to make a case when he quoted those things, I just think he was being a jerk and calling us bad players who don't give effort and shit.

-Grazie
I am not a jerk. You come in here, asking to lynch someone because you dont like any wagons and you havent read the last 40 pages. What I do is I hold you accountable for that. Because to me its shit. And I want to get that message across. Work with me and you will have no problems with me.
Dude this is a fucking hydra are you serious
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:12 am

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In post 1257, ferretlover wrote:What's "TAM"?
ametysth actor is a hydra, two people playing the account, one is marangal, the other is tam
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:14 am

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Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:19 am

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In post 1266, Svenskt Stål wrote:Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters
You were replying to SGR, SGR HAS been reading the thread. The person you are talking about is me
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:20 am

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Speculation: The Shield killed GCBC because we are right about most of the people on the Krab wagon being scum. They think this creates WIFOM that keeps us off of their back for a night or two. If they had killed a pro-town player, then it would have looked even more suspicious and led to a quicker scum demise.

Course of Action: Proceed with the malcolm lynch. Second best lynch is desperado.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:25 am

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Vote: Malcolm
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:28 am

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In post 1267, RATEDR wrote:
In post 1266, Svenskt Stål wrote:Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters
You were replying to SGR, SGR HAS been reading the thread. The person you are talking about is me

Oh. what is sgr short for?

Anyway, who are your suspects and top townies then?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:31 am

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In post 1268, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Speculation: The Shield killed GCBC because we are right about most of the people on the Krab wagon being scum. They think this creates WIFOM that keeps us off of their back for a night or two. If they had killed a pro-town player, then it would have looked even more suspicious and led to a quicker scum demise.

Course of Action: Proceed with the malcolm lynch. Second best lynch is desperado.
Thanks for the speculation.

The problem I have with this is that you sum up "all pro town players", if killed, pointing towards scum.

1. I dont know who the pro town players you are reffering to are
2. Who ever they are I would assume they have diffrent reads and one could be found that didnt point towards scum.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:34 am

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And monkey, i really dont think desp is a good lynch candidate today. What do you think about fuzzy and rated?

Others that are of interest, Arcangel, ametysth actor and goat.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:35 am

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In post 1270, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 1267, RATEDR wrote:
In post 1266, Svenskt Stål wrote:Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters
You were replying to SGR, SGR HAS been reading the thread. The person you are talking about is me

Oh. what is sgr short for?

Anyway, who are your suspects and top townies then?
SGR, SGRaaize

I think most of the hydras is town, I dont see Malcom as a good lynch today since his posting looks town to me.

Scum are Doctor C, MonkeyMan, and possibly Ferretlover atm.

I've done a short skim of this thread and that's how my reads have changed anyway
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Sat May 11, 2013 8:37 am

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In post 1271, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 1268, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Speculation: The Shield killed GCBC because we are right about most of the people on the Krab wagon being scum. They think this creates WIFOM that keeps us off of their back for a night or two. If they had killed a pro-town player, then it would have looked even more suspicious and led to a quicker scum demise.

Course of Action: Proceed with the malcolm lynch. Second best lynch is desperado.
Thanks for the speculation.

The problem I have with this is that you sum up "all pro town players", if killed, pointing towards scum.

1. I dont know who the pro town players you are reffering to are
2. Who ever they are I would assume they have diffrent reads and one could be found that didnt point towards scum.
Pro-town=You, Nero, peta, me(not to toot my own horn), Mutley. That we have different reads are not the point. Pro town are supposed to have different reads.

I would be on board with an ArcAngel lynch, but I think you should reconsider about Malcolm. Just because he resisted your questioning doesn't make him town.
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