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[Skullduggery]

Well, that escalated quickly.

CGBC's wagon consisted of Goat, Krab, RatedR, Svensk, and Jebus. RatedR, Krab's replacement Mutley, and Goat are giving me town reads. I see Jebus as a bit scummier now than before.

What makes you think that Shield Scum would choose to vig GCBC when he was still a valid lynch choice? Why not push the lynch through so they could vig someone else?

Also, why do you have a Town read on RATEDR when he's one of the scummiest players in the game? What Town things has he done?

Krab and gcbc are not both scum, thats a known fact.

How is it impossible for both of them to be Scum?

It is a known fact that they are not scum because gcbc was not scum.

What? GCBC

was

Scum.

I'm not stopping you from doing whatever speculation you want, I'm merely making it known that in my opinion, trying to figure out why GCBC is dead--rather than just acknowledging it and moving on--is a waste of time.

If we can figure out why the Shield team wanted GCBC dead, we can take one step closer toward catching a Shield player. How is that a waste of time? You don't really think they killed GCBC for lulz, do you?


Be back in a few. Need to look up some stuff...

[Skullduggery]

Okay, the Shield group must have known ahead of time that using their dayvig ability would reset the vote count. Is it a coincidence that this happens right as the Malcolm wagon starts to gain momentum?

Could it be a ruse to make us wrongfully suspect Malcolm? Possibly. But then you have to consider...

* GCBC attempting to trivialize the wagon on Malcolm:

@Goat

@Sven

would have liked a malcolm wagon more thou. nacho is supposed to be a good player.

Is your reason for voting Nacho meta (only)?

I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR NACHO. GOOD LYNCH. NAY, BEST LYNCH.

So your read on him is based solely on meta...

* Malcolm's wishy-washy opinion of GCBC:

GCBC is mildly aggressive here but I still find their responses/actions to others as anti-town. As explained by my partner, anti-town =/= scum all the time. In this case, I would still vote GCBC.

I like the Krab vote more than ever. His switch to GCBC has already been poked at by others, and I do feel like easing off GCBC for now.

* Malcolm soft-defending GCBC:

Since it's getting close to deadline, I need to go on the wagon more likely to go through, I guess.

Unvote:
Vote: GCBC

eh..Krab was 4 votes away from lynch and also a blank slot. GCBC was 6 votes away from a lynch at the time.

Yeah, I think I can buy GCBC and Malcolm being Scumbuddies. I'm game.

VOTE: xMALCOLMx

For the record, Krab/Mutley is still Scum, but I guess we can put that on the back burner for now. Mumble grumble.

[Amethyst Actor]

You guys are stupid. the Malcom wagon is being pushed by scum, and he was pushing the Scum-Krabs wagon which I still highly advocate. why do you want to put the Krabs-scum read on the back burner?

[Amethyst Actor]

and no, it was me who posted the vote post and this most recent one, not Dad

[Skullduggery]

Something else to consider. The Shield team knew that they had a dayvig shot at their disposal (possibly more than one), so how do you suppose they would have reacted when GCBC announced his bogus dayvig of Sven? They would have known right away that he was a member of the opposing Scum team. ("If our Scum group has a dayvig, then the other Scum group must have one as well" or something along those lines.) They would have immediately realized that they needed to get rid of him, so it would make sense for them to try to discredit him, right?

Who jumped on GCBC right after he made his "dayvig"? Desperado, Krab, and The Goat. There is Shield scum in that trio. Guaranteed.

[Skullduggery]

You guys are stupid. the Malcom wagon is being pushed by scum, and he was pushing the Scum-Krabs wagon which I still highly advocate. why do you want to put the Krabs-scum read on the back burner?

We had Krab at seven votes for more than twenty pages. He may be obvScum, but until there are enough people who realize it, that lynch isn't going through.

I want that slot dead -- I really do. Realistically, though, with the current group of people playing the game and the number of players who are either vehemently opposed to that lynch or who just don't give a damn one way or another, I just don't see it happening right now. I'm just trying to be pragmatic about it.

[xMALCOLMx]

[Kise]

I don't know if you're off on this with Svet but am interested in who you think is most likely to fit with Svet if your predictions are accurate?

[edited after viewing the daykill]
People I feel have a good chance of being scum right now:
Svet+Monkey for same team (similar defense/brush off as seen in Flavorless)
RatedR (one of my bottom end scumreads - Nacho last said he wasn't a fan of their posting)
Goat (I know it looks like I'm going after everyone voting me, but my iso will show I've been targeting these players far longer than that)
Mutley (I'd always be suspicious of people who are first on the scene during daykills and such, and he didn't add much other than saying he was confused)
Dr C (comes every now and then to help push a case ala Krabs, nothing outside of oneway sniping)

I can also tell you as of a few days ago, Nacho has ferret as town and Desp as scum. My reads have been inverse of those.

in particular "his posting here resembles how he was posting as scum!!!" stinks worse than mark henry's jock strap, it's all drawing comparisons between how he played that game and this game, ignoring the fact that

his posts will be similar because he's the same person

. it fails to attribute an actual scum motive for the most part other than "he is defending the popular wagon!!" which is a great scum-tell...for a baby. scum sometimes defend lynches, so do town, it doesn't mean anything unless you actually bother to analyze

why

they're doing that but there's none of that here

That's a bit heartbreaking. Meta for meta, I think my links are more thought out than the case on Nacho. If I were to die and show you I'm town, how much weight would my case hold for you then? I would really appreciate it if my suspects weren't lost in the shuffle because your opinion is that I was misguided.

And did you click the links to actually read them and not just view my tl;dr samples?

So this was a scum controlled kill, I can not see anything pointing in another direction.

So why kill gcbc?

Didn't you think they were scum too? They either meant to crosskill (knowing it was multiball), thought GCBC really was a dayvig or some other PR, or there's another unknown reason.

WIth the size of this game, I don't see a traitor being involved. With two scumteams known, what is your view on voting with suspects now? There should be no excuse not to vote for people being flat out scummy regardless of who else is on their wagon, as Shield could be going for Heyman guys and vice versa.

Can people stop saying krabs is their scum read. I've replaced him now so I am your scumread

Can you get to work?

Is it possible for us to lynch Doctor C

See above. He's not a busy body. I wouldn't rush the lynch but I'd vote.

Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR. Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

That wasn't a fucking case, how old are you?

no, we should be lynching Goat or Despo.

There's known 2 scumteams; likely 5 more scum at the least. List more suspects, please.

I'm on page 51, brb

[Nero Cain]

Kise, I refer you to 1119

[xMALCOLMx]

Well I knew this was multi ball before the kill, you cant have a scum team of 3 against 18 townies.

I know pretty much nothing about wrestling, true.

VOTE: Sven

Bit contradicting of him saying Heyman were neutrals. I guess it can work.

Vote Goat

First stone thrown.

[xMALCOLMx]

* Malcolm's wishy-washy opinion of GCBC:

You've been keeping note of my interaction with GCBC?

[ferretlover]

I'm not seeing a Goat lynch going anywhere. I don't think that he has been as scummy as you, MALCOM, IMO.

[xMALCOLMx]

ik

[Nero Cain]

vote:goat

[xMALCOLMx]

Oh brilliant lol. Any reason why I am scummy. Sorry I haven't read through yet haven't quite got the time to read 40 pages so for tonight I can intermittently post answers etc! Should have probably let me replace squid and lynched krab!! Might have been best for the town. I suppose I should claim. I am VT

Kofi Kingston at that! Didnt even see that bit in the PM. Was wondering as I posted why I wasn't a WWE superstar.

I'm very surprised that you missed that you had a character.

I'm really really starting to think we should kill fuzzy

Yeah that would be nice.

in particular "his posting here resembles how he was posting as scum!!!" stinks worse than mark henry's jock strap, it's all drawing comparisons between how he played that game and this game, ignoring the fact that his posts will be similar because he's the same person. it fails to attribute an actual scum motive for the most part other than "he is defending the popular wagon!!" which is a great scum-tell...for a baby. scum sometimes defend lynches, so do town, it doesn't mean anything unless you actually bother to analyze why they're doing that but there's none of that here

Did you notice Sven's case on us at all?

I'm confused

How's that reread going?
Oh.

That would be my guess.

Or he's probably self-aligned...

So a 1-Shot Day-Vig I'm assuming? Dammit RoleCop gone. That sux man.

Hate posts like this. Scream scum to me.

Mourning kills is a scumtell.

Lazy scum mudthrowing post, backed up by lazy lurking scum #2.

Is it possible for us to lynch Doctor C

Sorry, don't want to succumb to your scumgenda.

Please read some of nachos town games if you feel unsure. or maybee you can find something and convince me that i am wrong.

Is this really the entire case on me?
That's nice, I guess.

Yeah, I think I can buy GCBC and Malcolm being Scumbuddies. I'm game.

When... GCBC wasn't scum... he was probably neutral...

[Svenskt Stål]

[Kise]

I don't know if you're off on this with Svet but am interested in who you think is most likely to fit with Svet if your predictions are accurate?

[edited after viewing the daykill]
People I feel have a good chance of being scum right now:

Svet+Monkey for same team (similar defense/brush off as seen in Flavorless)

You having me as scum.

RatedR (one of my bottom end scumreads - Nacho last said he wasn't a fan of their posting)
Goat (I know it looks like I'm going after everyone voting me, but my iso will show I've been targeting these players far longer than that)
Mutley (I'd always be suspicious of people who are first on the scene during daykills and such, and he didn't add much other than saying he was confused)
Dr C (comes every now and then to help push a case ala Krabs, nothing outside of oneway sniping)

I can also tell you as of a few days ago, Nacho has ferret as town and Desp as scum. My reads have been inverse of those.

in particular "his posting here resembles how he was posting as scum!!!" stinks worse than mark henry's jock strap, it's all drawing comparisons between how he played that game and this game, ignoring the fact that

his posts will be similar because he's the same person

. it fails to attribute an actual scum motive for the most part other than "he is defending the popular wagon!!" which is a great scum-tell...for a baby. scum sometimes defend lynches, so do town, it doesn't mean anything unless you actually bother to analyze

why

they're doing that but there's none of that here

That's a bit heartbreaking. Meta for meta, I think my links are more thought out than the case on Nacho. If I were to die and show you I'm town, how much weight would my case hold for you then? I would really appreciate it if my suspects weren't lost in the shuffle because your opinion is that I was misguided.

And did you click the links to actually read them and not just view my tl;dr samples?

So this was a scum controlled kill, I can not see anything pointing in another direction.

So why kill gcbc?

Didn't you think they were scum too? They either meant to crosskill (knowing it was multiball), thought GCBC really was a dayvig or some other PR, or there's another unknown reason.

WIth the size of this game, I don't see a traitor being involved. With two scumteams known, what is your view on voting with suspects now? There should be no excuse not to vote for people being flat out scummy regardless of who else is on their wagon, as Shield could be going for Heyman guys and vice versa.

Yes I thought GCBC was scum, I am awesome, I know.I think you are right about the kill theory. dont know how i forgot about that. No i will still not vote someone that has a shady wagon, it being multiball does not change that, well maybee some but not entirely.

Can people stop saying krabs is their scum read. I've replaced him now so I am your scumread

Can you get to work?

Is it possible for us to lynch Doctor C

See above. He's not a busy body. I wouldn't rush the lynch but I'd vote.

Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR. Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

That wasn't a fucking case, how old are you?

no, we should be lynching Goat or Despo.

There's known 2 scumteams; likely 5 more scum at the least. List more suspects, please.

I'm on page 51, brb

[Svenskt Stål]

You guys are stupid. the Malcom wagon is being pushed by scum, and he was pushing the Scum-Krabs wagon which I still highly advocate. why do you want to put the Krabs-scum read on the back burner?

Keep whining. Krabs will not go throu for awhile with a known scum on the wagon that was defended by others on the wagon.

and no, it was me who posted the vote post and this most recent one, not Dad

dingdingding

[Nero Cain]

Doesn't really matter who made the vote, it still stunk. Normally I'd agree that knowing that it was multiball before it was proven to be multiball is a scum tell but the flavor kinda gave it away.

[Svenskt Stål]

Something else to consider. The Shield team knew that they had a dayvig shot at their disposal (possibly more than one), so how do you suppose they would have reacted when GCBC announced his bogus dayvig of Sven? They would have known right away that he was a member of the opposing Scum team. ("If our Scum group has a dayvig, then the other Scum group must have one as well" or something along those lines.) They would have immediately realized that they needed to get rid of him, so it would make sense for them to try to discredit him, right?

Who jumped on GCBC right after he made his "dayvig"? Desperado, Krab, and The Goat. There is Shield scum in that trio. Guaranteed.

Welcom to town city.

You guys are stupid. the Malcom wagon is being pushed by scum, and he was pushing the Scum-Krabs wagon which I still highly advocate. why do you want to put the Krabs-scum read on the back burner?

We had Krab at seven votes for more than twenty pages. He may be obvScum, but until there are enough people who realize it, that lynch isn't going through.

I want that slot dead -- I really do. Realistically, though, with the current group of people playing the game and the number of players who are either vehemently opposed to that lynch or who just don't give a damn one way or another, I just don't see it happening right now. I'm just trying to be pragmatic about it.

This level of quality posting tears my eyes. Thank you. You are awesome.
100% serious.

@ NERO, it does not take a rocket scientist to understand that the game could not have only 3 ANTI TOWN players.

[Sugar Cain]

that's kinda what I just said....

[Nero Cain]

that's kinda what I just said....

opps?

[Svenskt Stål]

Oh, all good then.

[Skullduggery]

Yeah, I think I can buy GCBC and Malcolm being Scumbuddies. I'm game.

When... GCBC wasn't scum... he was probably neutral...

Or, more likely:

15 Town
3 Shield Mafia (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns)
3 Heyman Mafia (Paul Heyman, Brock Lesnar, CM Punk)

zomg setup speculation

A commendable attempt to keep a lid on the identity of your team, though.

You guys are stupid. the Malcom wagon is being pushed by scum, and he was pushing the Scum-Krabs wagon which I still highly advocate. why do you want to put the Krabs-scum read on the back burner?

We had Krab at seven votes for more than twenty pages. He may be obvScum, but until there are enough people who realize it, that lynch isn't going through.

I want that slot dead -- I really do. Realistically, though, with the current group of people playing the game and the number of players who are either vehemently opposed to that lynch or who just don't give a damn one way or another, I just don't see it happening right now. I'm just trying to be pragmatic about it.

This level of quality posting tears my eyes. Thank you. You are awesome.
100% serious.

Uh...thanks, I guess. You do realize that my read on Krab/Mutley hasn't changed, though, right? It's just that the prospect of convincing people to lynch that slot and building that wagon back up from scratch sounds only slightly less unappealing than sticking a potato peeler up my nose and turning it counter-clockwise.

[Amethyst Actor]

Ya'll should vote Sven, that post I quoted in that vote post shows him slipping. He stated that he knew that the game was multi-ball because there couldn't be a team of three against a town of 18. insinuating that he knew how many people were on the scum team.

[Amethyst Actor]

and I'll keep on whining about Krabs not being lynched until I see good reason to believe otherwise just as I do for alot of my scumspects

[penguin_alien]

Sorry, I thought I'd have more time today to catch up on the thread. I should be fully in the loop by tomorrow, by which I mean in < 24 hours.

At present, based on what I've read (which is mid-40's to current and 1-15) I'd put ArcAngel9, Amethyst Actor, and Svenskt Stal as townish. The Krab Bucket jump on Ravenpaw was godawful scummy. Skullduggery was scummy at the start, but posts in the more recent section of the game come from a pretty towny mindset to my reading.

Interesting that GoodCopBadCop was dismissing the wagon on Skullduggery as too obvious to have scum on it. Not sure if that was coming from a place of him wanting to deflect scum hunting there for the sake of his team or something else.