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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 12:37 pm

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In post 199, freezing-hell wrote:You think of her as suspicious yet you unvote her - and haven't placed your vote somewhere else. Why unvote her then, if she's still suspicious and you didn't find a better candidate?

I don't like using my vote unless I think they are 100%. If I'm not certain I won't vote. I just think its better that way.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 12:40 pm

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In post 200, PhDScar wrote:
In post 199, freezing-hell wrote:You think of her as suspicious yet you unvote her - and haven't placed your vote somewhere else. Why unvote her then, if she's still suspicious and you didn't find a better candidate?

I don't like using my vote unless I think they are 100%. If I'm not certain I won't vote. I just think its better that way.
I wrote that poorly. I only vote if I think they are 100% scum if not I don't vote/unvote. That's better.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 12:52 pm

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Who is your biggest suspect right now?
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 12:58 pm

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In post 202, freezing-hell wrote:Who is your biggest suspect right now?
Sakura Hana. She has been wagoning this whole game. She also gave a poor argument for her votes and a poor defense when voted on. She also seemed to react very poorly to the pressure of L-3 acting very different from how she normally does.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 1:02 pm

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Yeah, you're right. She does look scum.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 1:18 pm

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O-KAY
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 1:18 pm

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I am at a laptop and ready to catch up.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 2:26 pm

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Okay, when I first said Patzer would be scum, I wasn’t looking at much past opportunism in his . He just pointed out two posts and said PhD was most likely scum.

So, elaborating more on Majiffy’s :
- I actually don’t see anything scummy in . Yes, I do like PhDScar’s taste in media and whatnot, but that doesn’t look like buddying. If he does something that could possibly resemble buddying later, I’ll consider it.
- could be played off as a joke, similarly to the reasons for not RVS voting Majiffy and I.
- : Eh, maybe.
- Intermission: At this point I’ll probably be Majiffy’s next target tomorrow if PhDScar is lynched today and flips town, considering I’ve “buddied” PhDScar simply through my ? Which is in fact where 31 and 32 came from?
- looks like a decent point.
- The points on posts 49 and 50 is dumb. I feel like PhD would’ve reacted in 49 or 50 instead of later in if he were scum.
- Had to read post 66 again though, and at first I didn’t draw attention to the end of the post. That does look fairly suspicious…
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It’s at this point I actually consider PhDScar could be scum. Before this Majiffy had some points but not enough for me to vote.

- and are both scum posts. The fact he was planning for a serious vote and didn’t give one…hm…

Okay, now after Majiffy’s case:

is typical “I’m a newbie” defense, and could be considered cautiousness in voting someone for weak reasons.

looks like genuine logic, but I do actually understand what PhDScar was trying to say, so I don’t see that as a scum tell.

: I don’t see PhD changing the subject…

: Oh man, PhD here trying to put some suspicion on Sakura without acting on it. (Although I do agree, doesn’t mean PhD is in the clear.)

I’m still trying to get a decent read on PhD after this post but it’s tough.

is Majiffy’s town play. Majiffy is normally known for pushing wagons to oblivion, but I’ve seen a little more reluctance from his town play than his scum play.

could be a newbie attempt at scumhunting but I still have a while to go apparently.

I agree with , note to self that Sakura is my top scumread at this point.

: Maybe he thinks stating reads on everyone will make him look townie since a player before him did it?

: My goodness this guy is playing the newb card or the scum card here. I'm leaning toward fairly scummy card.

: Unvote doesn't make any sense in itself but also isn't scum-Majiffy.

is completely contradictory with . In 156 PhD says Majiffy's motives and actions are town, and when he pulls the case apart in 174, he shoots down everything as if it wasn't true. But a lot of these responses seem newbtown...nope nope NOPE NOPE nope I don't like the newb card anymore. Not in the slightest. Newbscum using newb excuses to defend, after originally stating in some other post that he said he could defend Majiffy's 116. PhDScar and Sakura are both good votes for me at this point.

: Majiffy agrees with me, nice.

: Terrible vote on TMT. We can't double-vote in this new setup, huh? :(

: OH MY GOD SUCH A BAD UNVOTE. And thinking Majiffy changing his mind is scummy.

: freezing-hell comes back in with an L-2 vote. Opportunism? We'll see, haven't finished reading yet.

: Just the
way
that's posted ("I meant you're the first scum") sounds like a townie response, or something a townie would say if they suspected someone.

is worried about joking so that it'll blow up in his face, looks like townie posting some more yay.

If there's anything anyone would like me to comment on, I'll try my best, but normally when I catch up, I don't elaborate on every single detail with every single opinion. My summer's started though, so I should be a lot more active throughout the day now. (Well, Monday I'll be gone because I'm getting a ton of errands done.)

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PhDScar

Null

ArcAngel
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 2:40 pm

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VOTE: Sakuna

Majiffy, thoughts on Sakuna?
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 2:44 pm

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In post 208, Does Bo Know wrote:VOTE: Sakuna

Majiffy, thoughts on Sakuna?
You spelled her name wrong. Also no more votes on Sakura until everyone gets to share their piece seeing as how she's L-2.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 3:26 pm

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In post 208, Does Bo Know wrote:Majiffy, thoughts on Sakuna?
I originally had her down as town, haven't really bothered reading her since. I'll look at her again whenever I have time.

I'm really torn with the PhD wagon. Part of me keeps seeing what I'm almost 100% confident is a surefire towntell being dropped a few times, but then the other part of me knows that I'm going to have paranoia on his slot if we don't powerlynch it today.

I need to seriously sit down at some point in time very soon and look at all the people who have wagon hopped. Pretty sure at least one, if not both, scum are on the wagon - if PhD is scum, his partner was certainly going for the bus.

I have you as a firm town read. Probably the only one of any merit.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 3:49 pm

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In post 210, Majiffy wrote:I'm going to have paranoia on his slot if we don't powerlynch it today.
Today?! Isn't that a bit early for a lynch? I know you had this feeling about me all game but still. We should at least wait for the inactive players to show up so we can get their views on everyone think me and/or Sakura are scum. We should also do a bit of questioning of them to check if the scum or scums isn't one of them.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 3:53 pm

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What part of my reasonings are weak btw? and If you got any questions for me, feel free to shoot them and i'll answer, I'd totally love to vote PhD at this point, but i think TMT has a higher chance of being scum imo, both of them are there in my scum reads.

Do you really think i would be bussing if i was scum? I'm just trying to scumhunt here, but if that's what you guys think, then i don't mind being lynched today, maybe that will clear your doubts regarding my alignment?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:15 pm

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In post 212, Sakura Hana wrote:, but if that's what you guys think, then i don't mind being lynched today, maybe that will clear your doubts regarding my alignment?
This feels contrived and way too premature to appear honest.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:19 pm

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Oy, Majiffy, as far as PhDScar goes, what does your
gut
say?

I also agree with the above.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:24 pm

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In post 213, freezing-hell wrote:
In post 212, Sakura Hana wrote:, but if that's what you guys think, then i don't mind being lynched today, maybe that will clear your doubts regarding my alignment?
This feels contrived and way too premature to appear honest.
It's even more premature when you take into consideration that the "lynch today" was directed at me.

Sakura is scum no doubt.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:26 pm

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UNVOTE:

I'm not sure, but I think PhD's at L-1, and I'd rather look back at the game before voting him and risking a lynch. The Sakura wagon looks promising, so I'll have a look at her posts.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:27 pm

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In post 215, PhDScar wrote:
Sakura is scum no doubt
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Oh man I know who I'm going after if Sakura flips scum today.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:28 pm

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When did i say Lynch today? wasn't that Majiffy's post?

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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:29 pm

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Also speedlynching doesnt benefit the town in any way, it leaves no time for more discussion.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:34 pm

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Sometimes, players will refer to "today" being a real life day, or they'll refer to it being a game day. You'll have to read the context to understand which one it is sometimes.


I think Majiffy means today as in Day 1. Calm down, gaiz.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:36 pm

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Also what's powerlynching? is it the same as speedlynching?
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:37 pm

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In post 217, Does Bo Know wrote:
In post 215, PhDScar wrote:
Sakura is scum no doubt
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Oh man I know who I'm going after if Sakura flips scum today.
Look that just doesn't make any sense. I get some of your reasons for me being scum but this makes no sense. It would make sense if this was the first time I said she was scum but it's not. Actually I was the one who out of nowhere convinced most people suspicious of her to be suspicious. It be a really bad scum play on my part to do that. The kind of tactic where you sacrifice one of your own only works if the scum left is considered town by most. If anything it would makes sense for Sakura to sacrifice me also. I get coming after me if she turn town but not scum turns up town.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:37 pm

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In post 220, Does Bo Know wrote:
Sometimes, players will refer to "today" being a real life day, or they'll refer to it being a game day. You'll have to read the context to understand which one it is sometimes.


I think Majiffy means today as in Day 1. Calm down, gaiz.


That makes a lot more sense.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:40 pm

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I'm not gonna deny I messed up, and i got tired of trying to explain my reasons over and over again, you guys want me dead already so it's pointless for me to fight against it. Just hammer me already if you want me dead that much.
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