Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Mac]

A fucking RVS post? REALLY? I'll respond to the rest when I return but including an RVS post means it doesn't look good. Why on EARTH would I panic about a vote

that didn't even count?

The scummy part was you trying to shift attention off of yourself and onto Egg ("Why did you vote me and not Egg?"). Fuzzy was caught in RVS, why can't you be?

Clearly not what I said. "Why Egg?"

and then reasoning which showed it was a joke.

"same amount of letters AND first alphabetically.

[Mac]

Well bacde when we both read him as scum, he was actually scum

yeah thats true

but my first game w/ mac he was town but I still thought he was scum

I am terrible for this.

[Mac]

Based on interactions alone, the final werewolf is in Bulba & DBK. I'm pretty certain on this.

Need to here more from Autti; Klick is pretty scummy at the moment and I feel uneasy about Egg & GM.

Can someone point me to an Autti case?

[zabriel]

VC 2.03

Autti (Goodmorning, Klick, Syryana) - L-3
Egg (Bulba)
Klick (Egg, Bacde, TNE, DBK) - L-2

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Autti has not picked up his prod and will be replaced.

[Bulbazak]

RVS is RVS. it was tongue in cheek. it was not serious and I cannot take this part of the case seriously.

Again, Fuzzy was caught in RVS. Why can't you be?

The scummy part was you trying to shift attention off of yourself and onto Egg ("

Why did you vote me and not Egg?

").

Clearly not what I said.

What about Egg?

Same amount of letters AND first alphabetically.

Looks like it to me.

"Why Egg?"

and then reasoning which showed it was a joke.

"same amount of letters AND first alphabetically.

It didn't feel like a joke. You wanted Syryana to provide you with a serious reason why he voted you over Egg. In fact, it's the most serious part of that entire post.

Anyway, walk me through why you think Bo might be Fuzzy's partner, because I didn't see it when I did a dual ISO.

[Mac]

Seriously. stop. This is pretty embarrassing to hold your hand through my RVS. Trying to twist something that generically happens in every game into a scumtell is quite frankly shit town or scum play.

[Mac]

ISO DBK and as the fuzzy wagon gains traction, he ditches his townread on fuzzy & waits until L-1 specifically to vote fuzzy. It struck me as a massive bussing effort.

[Bulbazak]

I did ISO Fuzzy and Bo. I didn't see the connection.

[Mac]

That's cool, your plays been pretty off this game anyway.

[Mac]

Opportunism is actually a perk of scum-Fuzzy, a la Newbie 1340.

Survivalism is a perk of...just Fuzzy, a la pretty much every game I've played him in.

But

, Fuzzy's reads are actually shit-terrible. So bad that I feel like scum talking in twilight would get reads out like that to fuck up the town.

I may vote fuzzy actually, but not now. Probably my second WTF revelation in this game after my decision to unvote Icebox.

Is Fuzzy at L-1?

this is the post that looks like a bussing technique to me.

[Mac]

Did I really forget you DBK? Holy shit I need to sleep.
Eh. My read's been flip-flopping on you. Leaning town right now.

Scum can do productive things too, DBK. You know that as well as I do.

P-Edit: A lot of questioning, with little following up. Nice.

Bulb- being who I am, they are both number one priorities.

>.> I'll remember this, DBK.

the three times fuzzy mentions DBK throughout the entire game.

[Bulbazak]

Haven't really been feeling it. Most excited I've been has been when Bacde replaced in and gave the game a nice kick in the pants, but still, that was weak compared to my other games. I do feel confident in my reads this game, though.

P-edit: It was his reactions/interactions with Fuzzy the rest of the day that made me think they were not partners. Bo seems genuinely unsure about Fuzzy, which would not be the case if they were the same alignment. And you know as well as I do that Fuzzy likes to try to misdirect when he is scum, and I assume he's gotten better at it since 1337.

[Mac]

Nope, I assume since 1337 fuzzy would like to limit interactions with his partner as little as possible. hence the three times fuzzy mentions him is suspicious whilst DBK says "fuzzy is probably town" to hammering him is suspicious.

What do you make of DBK wanting to hammer fuzzy rather than just vote him?

[Egg]

Bulb, (responding to 931) if you go back and read Day 1 in context, I was behind in reading the game when you say I was distancing. I didn't want to change my vote before I was caught up. Evidence for this includes the fact that my vote was still on icebox after he claimed seer. You'll notice that I switched from icebox to fuzzy as soon as I caught up.

Klick (943) using self meta shows that he is aware of that meta and would be capable of faking it as scum. The meta is null.

Page 38 done. That break from work went quick. =(

[Klick]

@Egg: That was my intention. Bacde is saying that the meta is indicative of scum.

[Bacde]

But there is no meta that supports that you like to lynch non-slips that you accidentally misinterpret as a slip.

And the one link you provided didn't even show you getting excited about lynching a slip. I ctrl + F'ed your entire ISO in that game for the term "slip" and came up empty handed

[Klick]

It was mentioned by other people, I never actually said the word "slip." -_-

I'll go through my meta and give you a list if I have free time tonight. Sound good?

[Does Bo Know]

I was fairly sure about Fuzzy's alignment until near-deadline. It wasn't until I looked at the ISO myself (maybe even twice in a row) that I had changed my mind.

I asked about L-1 because at that moment, if I knew he wasn't at L-1, I would've voted Fuzzy. But then I did check his ISO again, felt his play was a little more reserved than I can remember, and felt like hammering.

[Egg]

It sounds like bacde was saying that the meta isn't valid, not that he has meta that contradicts the self-meta. Now I could be wrong because I have almost four pages left to read, but that's the impression I get.

[Bacde]

It was mentioned by other people, I never actually said the word "slip." -_-

I'll go through my meta and give you a list if I have free time tonight. Sound good?

Yes! thx u

[Bacde]

@Egg: That was my intention. Bacde is saying that the meta is indicative of scum.

tbh I'm not familiar with your meta at all

[zabriel]

Princess Proton will replace Autti.

Day 2 will last until May 22nd, 3pm EST ((expired on 2013-05-22 15:00:00))

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[Bacde]

Hey whats up princess

you should probably start contributing because the way things look everyone is going to keep disagreeing about our top scumreads and then you will be the compromise lynch of the day at this rate

[goodmorning]

Are we still hung up on the whole slip thing? Yawn.

Can someone point me to an Autti case?

Other than his entire ISO? Not that I recall.

[Princess Proton]

you should probably start contributing because the way things look everyone is going to keep disagreeing about our top scumreads and then you will be the compromise lynch of the day at this rate

o7

I'm Town. Just found the thread. Reading now.