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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 4:52 pm

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In post 221, Sakura Hana wrote:Also what's powerlynching? is it the same as speedlynching?
Usually, yes.


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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 5:25 pm

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Sakura are you seriously going to just ignore 190

Answer to these:

1. How am I buddying PHD
2. How does not being a noob make me scum

Also, PHD's unvote on Sakura I don't really comprehend at all.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 5:33 pm

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1, Because i seriously thought he was scum and you came to his defense, but after reading him better i decided he probably was a newbie town then you were probably buddying him IF you are scum that is.
2. By PoE (aside from my null reads) it could be either you and him or you, I was thinking that if we lynch him and he flips scum you would be scum, and if he flipped town you would be scum, so i decided that by that logic you had higher chance of being scum than him, and would rather push my vote in that direction than risking a mislynch, didn't have much strong reasoning for it, but as i mentioned by PoE you both are my only scum reads.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 5:41 pm

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Do you know what buddying is?

I think Majiffy is town. Am I buddying Majiffy if I say it?

I came to PHD's defense because I don't think that the accusations against him were valid at that time.

What exactly are your scumreads on me? All you're saying is that PHD and I are scum, and because PHD is a noob, he's probably town.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 5:52 pm

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I think buddying is when a Mafia helps a towny escape a lynch to get on their good side and make them think they are Town.

Hmm, about my scumread on you is pretty much the way you came to PhD's defense, specially considering the case he had on him, you could either be 2 scum buds or you buddying him (unless my definition of buddying is wrong).
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 6:11 pm

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So I'm scum because I defended someone who everyone thought was scum?
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 6:13 pm

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Pretty much that's how i saw it yes.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 6:21 pm

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Votecount 1.5:


Does Bo Know (1): ArcAngel9
PHDScar (1): Majiffy
L-1
Sakura Hana (4): TMTOLBTWNTOF, PHDScar, freezing-hell, Does Bo Know
TMTOLBTWNTOF (1): Sakura Hana

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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2013 6:48 pm

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Actually I didn't think my vote was L-1, my bad.

UNVOTE: Sakura
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 8:46 am

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In post 225, Does Bo Know wrote:PhD: Having no doubt someone is scum implies you two are scum partners, since the only people that really know who the scum are...are scum. Make sense? Yes, you did somewhat start pursuing her. But the no doubt thing, especially from someone like you throwing newbtells, makes me uneasy.
Still, it feels like you're stretching to make me look like scum no matter what the outcome of Sakura's flip is.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 8:56 am

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Do you really think someone who's scum would say they have "no doubt someone's scum" on their partner? that would be throwing the game.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 9:01 am

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In post 235, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you really think someone who's scum would say they have "no doubt someone's scum" on their partner? that would be throwing the game.
It's a tactic some well-coordinated scum use. It only works if the living scum is considered town. So for me to do it would make no sense seeing as how I'm most likely going to be first or second lynch.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 9:09 am

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In post 235, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you really think someone who's scum would say they have "no doubt someone's scum" on their partner? that would be throwing the game.
There is a technique called "bussing," in which a scum member may vote and want another scum member lynched for town cred.


I don't think PhD is the type to bus, though, so it's highly unlikely that is the case.

Like I said earlier, the only unsettling thing is that someone as newbish as PhDScar has been acting, is that he suddenly has enough confidence to say Sakura is "no doubt scum."
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 9:12 am

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I have confidence because all or at least most active players agree with me. The "no doubt" was bad wording on my I guess.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 9:12 am

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on my *part I guess.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 11:02 am

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So... You say Sakura is scum because she is wagoning?

And you also say Sakura is scum because everyone else says she is scum?

Which is basically wagoning?
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 11:11 am

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No I'm not saying that. I'm saying this game and the people in it have made me feel very uneasy about I act. So I had a lot of doubt that voting her was the right move but when everyone else thought voting her was the right move I felt secure in my decision.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 11:24 am

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In post 241, PhDScar wrote:No I'm not saying that. I'm saying this game and the people in it have made me feel very uneasy about I act. So I had a lot of doubt that voting her was the right move but when everyone else thought voting her was the right move I felt secure in my decision.
And you say i couldn't have felt the same way about you when you were being voted?
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 11:26 am

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You never gave that reason. Also I backed that up with evidence and explanation. You just jumped on my wagon and responded to my serious question about why you were on my wagon with a joke.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 12:47 pm

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In post 141, Sakura Hana wrote:After re-reading patzer's post 133 (how did i miss it in the first place? X_X) yeah this kinda looks odd to me
VOTE: PhD
Maybe additional pressure will help
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 12:51 pm

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In post 214, Does Bo Know wrote:Oy, Majiffy, as far as PhDScar goes, what does your
gut
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Probably town. But paranoia, man, paranoia...

I'd be willing to go for Patzer if you find yourself with a PhD town read. Seen some posts by him I didn't particularly enjoy.

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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 1:04 pm

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In post 244, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 141, Sakura Hana wrote:After re-reading patzer's post 133 (how did i miss it in the first place? X_X) yeah this kinda looks odd to me
VOTE: PhD
Maybe additional pressure will help
Does this look like a joke to you
That wasn't what i was talking about.
In post 144, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 142, PhDScar wrote:
In post 141, Sakura Hana wrote:After re-reading patzer's post 133 (how did i miss it in the first place? X_X) yeah this kinda looks odd to me
VOTE: PhD
Maybe additional pressure will help
Additional pressure will help what exactly?
Telling you would spoil the fun :P
This is what i was talking about.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 1:11 pm

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I reread the thread from page 6.
Now PhD is looking neutral. His posts have been natural, and I could easily see him being town. slight FoS on Sakura, she has said some things that may be coming from a scum point of view, but not certain by any means. I'm not sure what to do now, I don't have any major reads and from my past experience here that is regarded as a scumtell... :(
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 4:12 pm

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For some reason I remember putting Patzer in my town pile. Why?

He's neutral at best to me now.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2013 4:14 pm

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@PhD: Well i'm not one for saying my reasons straight away unless i'm making a case, mostly so i know who can see what i'm seeing, and so the one i'm going against doesn't change their attitude to solve the issue and appear more town to me.
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