This I actually agree with a lot. The way that Scott comes in, doesn't comment on anything going on in the thread, and attempts to start a new wagon is a really classic scum-play.OH and Scott gets scum points for trying to start a new wagon so close to deadline, because as of 468 nobody was voting toomai and we are 1 day out.
That's true I suppose.In post 503, Toomai wrote:Clearly I was not prepared for this amount of posts.
I don't really have any idea what to think. As it stands I prefer the NC lynch over the acf one because I feel it will provide more useful information overall. If we're lucky we have a Vig that'll shoot acf and solve that question simultaneously.
SB has 0 votes right now and I don't think we should try to pile them on today, since that'll just make things more complicated should it turn out that not enough people join in.
Given ac1983fan's treatment of NC, I'm still very wary of lynching NC. It feels like a pure lurker lynch, andWe should be lynchingNic CageorScotttoday unless someone goes about and acts even scummier.
Who in their right mind would shoot a claimed doctor night 1?In post 503, Toomai wrote:Clearly I was not prepared for this amount of posts.
I don't really have any idea what to think. As it stands I prefer the NC lynch over the acf one because I feel it will provide more useful information overall. If we're lucky we have a Vig that'll shoot acf and solve that question simultaneously.
SB has 0 votes right now and I don't think we should try to pile them on today, since that'll just make things more complicated should it turn out that not enough people join in.
What makes a 1-shot claim all that different from a full claim? It's still a PR claim, and since we don't actually know what the setup is in this game, limited shot powers may actually be all we have.In post 471, hapahauli wrote: All this "don't lynch the PR" stuffdoes not apply here.It applies to normal doctor/cop claims, but not this one. In the case of a 1-shot claim, we lynch the guy if we think he's scum. End of story.
Out of the people who have wagons, yes Varsoon is the best option. (for information that may be confusing you, some responses/conversations have changed which hydra head is speaking, I think Pie is less clear on Varsoon than I am)In post 466, hapahauli wrote: You voting Varsoon implies that you think he's thebestcandidate availible. If he's not the best candidate in your mind, who is? Place your vote on that person.
I didn't like your attidtude about how acfan is scumscumscumscum.In post 466, hapahauli wrote: I don't like this attitude. I feel like you've been talking around things and doing everything in your power not to make a vote-committment. Your plan here is essentially to wait and see, and give the town your "stamp of approval" by hammering someone. This is unacceptable when we have 24 hours left in the day. We need to be discussing reads, not doing hwat you are proposing.
If he is the only protective role, then unless he is scum sacrificing a night, then it is possible to verify without resorting to a cop. (it would probably require massclaim though)In post 482, hapahauli wrote: The problem is, I can't find any compelling reason for why the policy applies in the case of this current claim (1-shot doctor).
1) It won't be possible to verify his claim later, and outing a cop to do so is not a good long-term play.
2) The "suboptimal" decisions that scum could make here (NK'ing AC for example) are very unrealistic. If scum have a roleblocker, they can nullify his role without killing him. Secondly, I don't think it's realistic at all for scum to NK ACfan (if he's town) because he would be an almost sure-fire lynch for D2.
Somebody actually did this, we saw how quickly the acfan wagon grew, so why from the others with that suspicion is the reason for not voting not enough time?In post 493, Scott Brosius wrote: There seems to be support for this wagon lingering but nobody wants to take that first step.
unvote, vote: toomai
What changed in the space between you calling him very scummy and ending the same post with this?
that post was being written as I went through each post. I started at the vote count in post 308 and went through each post writing what I saw as I read. Post 363 makes so much sense, especially the part about what Nic says in post 302.In post 510, Cheery Pie wrote:What changed in the space between you calling him very scummy and ending the same post with this?
it is odd because in post 94 nic saysIn post 302, NicCage wrote:Also, I think zefiend is town now also, for what it's worth.
and between those zef has 2 posts (3 if you count his EBWOP) and the transition makes no sense, especially since nic doesn't explain why he does a 180.I guarantee that zefiend chose that vote because he thought it was safe, which would either point to scum or newb trying not to stick his neck out. I went with scum.
Well idk in all fairness Scott is definitely in my opinion someone to watch. Out of him and NicCage I can see one of them flipping scum. Maybe or maybe not both that is a bit harder to decide. He is willing to go for the NicCage wagon if needed. I am also ready to cast my vote either way, but Nic needs to say something before it is too late. With as little time as he has it won't be long till one more person hammers in the nail.In post 512, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:AND hap also gains scum points for also trying to start a new wagon after I announce we have only 18 hours until deadline.
Nic is at L-1 now, so he needs to claim ASAP, like his very next post.
VOTE: ToomaiIn post 515, Toomai wrote:So with the suspended deadline maybe we can get a wagon rolling on SB.
I'm not unvoting NC yet though. He's been at L-1 twice now and needs to claim.
Wait...what?! Why? Why is this scummy?In post 519, GoodCopBadCop wrote:VOTE: ToomaiIn post 515, Toomai wrote:So with the suspended deadline maybe we can get a wagon rolling on SB.
I'm not unvoting NC yet though. He's been at L-1 twice now and needs to claim.
This is so incredibly scummy.
- GC
Yeah Dessx you can just click there ISO next to there post number. Still in day one and have a few days till lynch so it gives you some time to catch upIn post 521, Dessx wrote:Is there anyway to see someones filter for Day 1?